D3 Top 25 Fan Poll

smedindy · September 14, 2017, 11:06:19 AM

Yeah, I have IWU #5. I have them at #2 in the North. Maybe I over-reacted to the UWW game, but I will reassess after this week of course. There was no reason for a downgrade.

But, like the Yachtski scale, it all washes out to where it should be despite the individual ratings.

UWW is not ranked because of their second loss. Had they beaten C-M they probably would have maintained or raised their ranking a bit. But to be honest, the difference between #5 and #25 on the field may not be that big, especially this year.

Scots13 · September 15, 2017, 09:31:31 AM

Quote from: smedindy on September 14, 2017, 11:06:19 AM
the difference between #5 and #25 on the field may not be that big, especially this year.

Welcome to 2017, everybody.
(I agree.)

FCGrizzliesGrad · September 19, 2017, 04:42:34 PM

One voter is on vacation. Should be back up to 10 voters next week.

2017 Week 3 TOP 25 FAN POLL

# School Pts Prev
1) Mary Hardin-Baylor (8) 224 1
2) Mount Union (1) 216 2
3) UW-Oshkosh 203 3
4) Wheaton 200 4
5) North Central 189 5
6) St John's 179 6
7) Hardin-Simmons 168 8
8) John Carroll 141 9
9) Delaware Valley 134 T10
10) Frostburg St 125 T10
11) Linfield 121 7
12) St Thomas 120 14
13) Johns Hopkins 107 15
14) UW-Platteville 101 13
15) Wittenberg 92 16
16) Washington & Jefferson 80 23
17) Illinois Wesleyan 79 12
18) Brockport 71 18
T19) Concordia-Moorhead 69 T19
T19) Whitworth 69 T19
21) Case Western Reserve 65 17
22) Wesley 56 T19
23) UW-Stout 36 24
24) Alfred 34 22
25) Denison 14 NR

Dropped Out: Redlands

Also Receiving Votes: UW-Whitewater (7), Wartburg (5), Heidelberg (4), Hobart (4), Albright (2), Framingham St (2), George Fox (2), Wabash (2), Berry (1), Coe (1), Dubuque (1), Springfield (1)

Voters: 02 Warhawk, D3MAFAN, desertcat1, FCGrizzliesGrad, HansenRatings, HSCTiger74, NCF, Scots13, and smedindy

FCGrizzliesGrad · September 19, 2017, 04:56:56 PM

1) Mary Hardin-Baylor 224 ( 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2)
2) Mount Union 216 ( 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3)
3) UW-Oshkosh 203 ( 2, 3, 3, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4, 5)
4) Wheaton 200 ( 3, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 5)
5) North Central 189 ( 3, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 6, 6)
6) St John's 179 ( 4, 5, 6, 6, 6, 6, 7, 7, 8)
7) Hardin-Simmons 168 ( 6, 6, 6, 7, 7, 8, 8, 9, 9)
8) John Carroll 141 ( 7, 8, 8, 8, 8, 9, 13, 14, 18)
9) Delaware Valley 134 ( 7, 8, 10, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15)
10) Frostburg St 125 ( 7, 9, 9, 11, 11, 12, 14, 16, 20)
11) Linfield 121 ( 7, 8, 9, 12, 12, 13, 16, 18, 18)
12) St Thomas 120 ( 7, 10, 10, 10, 12, 13, 14, 16, 22)
13) Johns Hopkins 107 ( 9, 11, 11, 12, 13, 14, 17, 18, 22)
14) UW-Platteville 101 ( 9, 10, 10, 11, 13, 14, 20, 23, 23)
15) Wittenberg 92 (10, 11, 12, 12, 15, 15, 19, 23, 25)
16) Wash & Jeff 80 (13, 15, 15, 16, 16, 17, 19, 19, 24)
17) Illinois Wesleyan 79 (13, 16, 16, 17, 17, 18, 19, 19, 20)
18) Brockport 71 (11, 11, 13, 18, 21, 21, 22, 22, 24)
T19) Concordia-Moorhead 69 (14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 21, 22, 23)
T19) Whitworth 69 (10, 14, 17, 19, 20, 20, 20, 22, 23)
21) Case Western Reserve 65 ( 9, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 23, --)
22) Wesley 56 (14, 15, 15, 20, 20, 21, 24, 24, 25)
23) UW-Stout 36 (15, 19, 21, 22, 22, 23, 24, --, --)
24) Alfred 34 (17, 17, 18, 21, 23, --, --, --, --)
25) Denison 14 (12, --, --, --, --, --, --, --, --)

26) UW-Whitewater 7 (21, 24)
27) Wartburg 5 (21)
T28) Heidelberg 4 (22)
T28) Hobart 4 (23, 25)
T30) Albright 2 (24)
T30) Framingham St 2 (24)
T30) George Fox 2 (25, 25)
T30) Wabash 2 (24)
T34) Berry 1 (25)
T34) Coe 1 (25)
T34) Dubuque 1 (25)
T34) Springfield 1 (25)

wally_wabash · September 20, 2017, 10:38:32 AM

I love that Denison is in the top 25 on the back of one voter. Stay strong, independent voter! Your faith in the Big Red will be rewarded next week.

D3MAFAN · September 20, 2017, 11:37:44 AM

Quote from: wally_wabash on September 20, 2017, 10:38:32 AM
I love that Denison is in the top 25 on the back of one voter. Stay strong, independent voter! Your faith in the Big Red will be rewarded next week.

I know Denison played really well last year and has played very well to start the season, I just don't see the data to say that they are 14. I guess that's why we have multiple voters. Wally, you are right, that one voter at the end of the season, may be saying "I told you so"

wally_wabash · September 20, 2017, 11:52:57 AM

Quote from: D3MAFAN on September 20, 2017, 11:37:44 AM
Quote from: wally_wabash on September 20, 2017, 10:38:32 AM
I love that Denison is in the top 25 on the back of one voter. Stay strong, independent voter! Your faith in the Big Red will be rewarded next week.

I know Denison played really well last year and has played very well to start the season, I just don't see the data to say that they are 14. I guess that's why we have multiple voters. Wally, you are right, that one voter at the end of the season, may be saying "I told you so"

9.85 yards per play do anything for you? I know they weren't playing UMHB/Oshkosh level defenses through their first two games, but that's a wild number no matter who you play. The Big Red are the real deal. Going to be fun watching them run the @Witt, @Wabash, vs. DePauw gauntlet starting next weekend.

smedindy · September 20, 2017, 01:57:52 PM

Man I was so close to putting Denison on there. I chose Berry. I may be wrong...

Ralph Turner · September 21, 2017, 03:36:15 PM

Quote from: wally_wabash on September 20, 2017, 11:52:57 AM
Quote from: D3MAFAN on September 20, 2017, 11:37:44 AM
Quote from: wally_wabash on September 20, 2017, 10:38:32 AM
I love that Denison is in the top 25 on the back of one voter. Stay strong, independent voter! Your faith in the Big Red will be rewarded next week.

I know Denison played really well last year and has played very well to start the season, I just don't see the data to say that they are 14. I guess that's why we have multiple voters. Wally, you are right, that one voter at the end of the season, may be saying "I told you so"
Hosting Southwestern, Denison trailed 24-21 in the 3Q. In their next 4 drives, they took over on the Southwestern 34 after a failed 4th and 5. They scored on a 34 yard drive. Two series later, they reovered a fumble on the Southwestern 17 for a quick score.
That seems to be as much of a Southwestern melt-down as anything.

ETBU beat Southwestern 28-10 last weekend, the same margin. As much as I assess the quality of the top tier of ASC football, ETBU is borderline South Region Top 10, much less solid Top 25.

9.85 yards per play do anything for you? I know they weren't playing UMHB/Oshkosh level defenses through their first two games, but that's a wild number no matter who you play. The Big Red are the real deal. Going to be fun watching them run the @Witt, @Wabash, vs. DePauw gauntlet starting next weekend.

Ralph Turner · September 21, 2017, 03:36:43 PM

Quote from: wally_wabash on September 20, 2017, 11:52:57 AM
Quote from: D3MAFAN on September 20, 2017, 11:37:44 AM
Quote from: wally_wabash on September 20, 2017, 10:38:32 AM
I love that Denison is in the top 25 on the back of one voter. Stay strong, independent voter! Your faith in the Big Red will be rewarded next week.

I know Denison played really well last year and has played very well to start the season, I just don't see the data to say that they are 14. I guess that's why we have multiple voters. Wally, you are right, that one voter at the end of the season, may be saying "I told you so"
9.85 yards per play do anything for you? I know they weren't playing UMHB/Oshkosh level defenses through their first two games, but that's a wild number no matter who you play. The Big Red are the real deal. Going to be fun watching them run the @Witt, @Wabash, vs. DePauw gauntlet starting next weekend.

Hosting Southwestern, Denison trailed 24-21 in the 3Q. In their next 4 drives, they took over on the Southwestern 34 after a failed 4th and 5. They scored on a 34 yard drive. Two series later, they recovered a fumble on the Southwestern 17 for a quick score.
That seems to be as much of a Southwestern melt-down as anything.

ETBU beat Southwestern 28-10 last weekend, the same margin. As much as I assess the quality of the top tier of ASC football, ETBU is borderline South Region Top 10, much less solid Top 25.

FCGrizzliesGrad · September 27, 2017, 12:01:17 AM

Back to a full 10 voters this week.

2017 Week 4 TOP 25 FAN POLL

# School Pts Prev
1) Mary Hardin-Baylor (8) 248 1
2) Mount Union (2) 241 2
T3) UW-Oshkosh 221 3
T3) Wheaton 221 4
5) North Central 214 5
6) Hardin-Simmons 200 7
7) St Thomas 175 12
8) Delaware Valley 159 9
9) St John's 157 6
10) Linfield 155 11
11) Frostburg St 147 10
12) Johns Hopkins 118 13
13) UW-Platteville 115 14
14) Wittenberg 100 15
15) Washington & Jefferson 93 16
16) Concordia-Moorhead 89 T19
17) Whitworth 88 T19
18) Brockport 82 18
T19) Case Western Reserve 81 21
T19) Illinois Wesleyan 81 17
21) Wesley 77 22
22) Alfred 53 24
23) UW-Stout 40 23
24) Heidelberg 35 NR
25) Denison 16 25

Dropped Out: John Carroll

Also Receiving Votes: UW-Whitewater (9), Albright (6), Framingham St (6), Wartburg (5), Berry (4), George Fox (4), Hobart (3), John Carroll (3), Carthage (2), Springfield (2)

Voters: 02 Warhawk, D3MAFAN, desertcat1, FCGrizzliesGrad, HansenRatings, HSCTiger74, Mr. Ypsi, NCF, Scots13, and smedindy

FCGrizzliesGrad · September 27, 2017, 12:21:24 AM

Lots of agreement on who should be ranked... not so much agreement on where they should be ranked.

1) Mary Hardin-Baylor 248 ( 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2)
2) Mount Union 241 ( 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3)
T3) UW-Oshkosh 221 ( 2, 3, 3, 3, 3, 4, 4, 5, 6, 6)
T3) Wheaton 221 ( 3, 3, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4, 5, 5, 5)
5) North Central 214 ( 3, 4, 4, 4, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 6)
6) Hardin-Simmons 200 ( 4, 4, 5, 6, 6, 6, 6, 7, 8, 8)
7) St Thomas 175 ( 6, 6, 7, 7, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 14)
8) Delaware Valley 159 ( 6, 7, 7, 8, 10, 10, 11, 13, 14, 15)
9) St John's 157 ( 7, 8, 9, 10, 10, 10, 11, 11, 12, 15)
10) Linfield 155 ( 7, 7, 8, 8, 9, 11, 12, 13, 13, 17)
11) Frostburg St 147 ( 7, 8, 8, 9, 9, 11, 12, 14, 16, 19)
12) Johns Hopkins 118 ( 9, 11, 11, 12, 14, 14, 15, 17, 18, 21)
13) UW-Platteville 115 ( 8, 10, 11, 12, 12, 12, 13, 19, 22, --)
14) Wittenberg 100 ( 9, 11, 12, 13, 14, 14, 16, 22, 23, --)
15) Wash & Jeff 93 (12, 13, 15, 15, 16, 17, 18, 18, 18, 25)
16) Concordia-Moorhead 89 (10, 13, 15, 16, 17, 17, 18, 21, 22, 22)
17) Whitworth 88 (10, 13, 14, 16, 18, 19, 19, 20, 21, 22)
18) Brockport 82 (10, 13, 15, 17, 17, 20, 20, 21, 21, 24)
T19) Case Western Reserve 81 ( 9, 14, 15, 17, 18, 18, 20, 20, 22, --)
T19) Illinois Wesleyan 81 (15, 16, 16, 16, 17, 19, 19, 19, 21, 21)
21) Wesley 77 ( 9, 13, 14, 18, 18, 20, 21, 23, 23, 24)
22) Alfred 53 (16, 16, 17, 19, 19, 20, 22, --, --, --)
23) UW-Stout 40 (15, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 23, 25, --, --)
24) Heidelberg 35 ( 9, 22, 22, 23, 24, 24, 25, 25, 25, --)
25) Denison 16 (12, 25, 25, --, --, --, --, --, --, --)

26) UW-Whitewater 9 (20, 23)
T27) Albright 6 (23, 23)
T27) Framingham St 6 (20)
29) Wartburg 5 (21)
T30) Berry 4 (24, 25, 25)
T30) George Fox 4 (24, 24)
T32) Hobart 3 (24, 25)
T32) John Carroll 3 (23)
T34) Carthage 2 (24)
T34) Springfield 2 (24)

Mr. Ypsi · September 27, 2017, 12:24:15 AM

Happy to see that Wheaton has now tied Oshkosh for third. With two weeks off, UWO's ONLY real credentials were last season and beating (now exposed) JCU. This Saturday will be interesting as UWO hosts UWW while Wheaton hosts IWU (who defeated UWW on opening day). [BTW, somewhat mystified why IWU fell from 17 to t19 - they pitched a shutout against (admittedly not good) NPU.

None of the teams that jumped them had a clearly better result.]

smedindy · September 27, 2017, 01:16:57 AM

One voter can make a difference.

02 Warhawk · September 27, 2017, 12:17:03 PM

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on September 27, 2017, 12:24:15 AM
Happy to see that Wheaton has now tied Oshkosh for third. With two weeks off, UWO's ONLY real credentials were last season and beating (now exposed) JCU. This Saturday will be interesting as UWO hosts UWW while Wheaton hosts IWU (who defeated UWW on opening day). [BTW, somewhat mystified why IWU fell from 17 to t19 - they pitched a shutout against (admittedly not good) NPU. None of the teams that jumped them had a clearly better result.]

You can make the argument that IWU's ONLY real credential is beating a (now exposed) UWW. That win looked really good up until UWW lost again - the very next week - to (once again) an unranked team. I'm guessing the Hawks won't get their second win of the season until Week 6 against Stout. However, Stout took down St. Thomas...so I easily be wrong.