D3 Top 25 Fan Poll

[Pat Coleman]

Once upon a time, Wartburg was someone.

[smedindy]

I have Platteville and Thomas More in, and Del Val and Salisbury out.

I may be a bit optimistic on Platteville, but that's where they slotted in based on my West Region ballot as well.

[USee]

I'd be happy to join the Monmouth bandwagon, but the three teams they beat 141-0 are teams any good team should shutout.  And they won't face any decent competition until the MWC title game.  They should get to 8-1 and probably still won't be on my ballot.

And I have a bias towards Monmouth.  I have a niece who is both physically and mentally challenged.  She is in an assisted living apartment in Monmouth, and her caretakers are mostly Monmouth students and/or Monmouth affiliated.  The only season since the 2000s started that IWU beat both Wheaton and NCC in the same year, the Alex Tanney-led Scots beat us in the first round of the playoffs.  So I would love to vote for them, but they've got to beat someone!

Same could be said about Oshkosh and NCC.   

I get what you're saying though, no worries.

And John Carroll

[Mr. Ypsi]

Once upon a time, Wartburg was someone.

True, then they met Simpson.  I was very tempted to vote Monmouth when they beat Wartburg, but their domination by Wheaton was too fresh in my mind.  And now Wartburg faces Coe and Central back-to-back.  They may beat one, I doubt they'll beat both.

[smedindy]

I reshuffled a bit thanks to results by Wash U., Trine, and Central, along with the Platteville - Oshkosh game and the Johnnie - Tommie Clash.

[Mr. Ypsi]

I reshuffled a bit thanks to results by Wash U., Trine, and Central, along with the Platteville - Oshkosh game and the Johnnie - Tommie Clash.

Yeah, my shuffling was fairly modest, but I do now have the highest ranking I've ever given to an East region team:  Brockport is DESTROYING opponents (some of them pretty darn good); they're now #3 on my ballot.

[MRMIKESMITH]

I reshuffled a bit thanks to results by Wash U., Trine, and Central, along with the Platteville - Oshkosh game and the Johnnie - Tommie Clash.

Yeah, my shuffling was fairly modest, but I do now have the highest ranking I've ever given to an East region team:  Brockport is DESTROYING opponents (some of them pretty darn good); they're now #3 on my ballot.

I agree, even as an ERF pollster. They remind be of the old Wesley teams statistically that could dominate you on all facets of football. They can run when they need to or pass when the have to, then the defense has been lights out. Even when the offense doesn't score (i.e. Ithaca game), the defense steps up. I think late in the playoffs they are going to have to be able to be well balance and be able to punch in some short yardage plays to get over that hump.

[Ralph Turner]

I reshuffled a bit thanks to results by Wash U., Trine, and Central, along with the Platteville - Oshkosh game and the Johnnie - Tommie Clash.

Yeah, my shuffling was fairly modest, but I do now have the highest ranking I've ever given to an East region team:  Brockport is DESTROYING opponents (some of them pretty darn good); they're now #3 on my ballot.

I agree, even as an ERF pollster. They remind be of the old Wesley teams statistically that could dominate you on all facets of football. They can run when they need to or pass when the have to, then the defense has been lights out. Even when the offense doesn't score (i.e. Ithaca game), the defense steps up. I think late in the playoffs they are going to have to be able to be well balance and be able to punch in some short yardage plays to get over that hump.

Will 2018 Brockport be the first East Region team to win the Stagg Bowl since Bush 41?

[Bartman]

I reshuffled a bit thanks to results by Wash U., Trine, and Central, along with the Platteville - Oshkosh game and the Johnnie - Tommie Clash.

Yeah, my shuffling was fairly modest, but I do now have the highest ranking I've ever given to an East region team:  Brockport is DESTROYING opponents (some of them pretty darn good); they're now #3 on my ballot.

I agree, even as an ERF pollster. They remind be of the old Wesley teams statistically that could dominate you on all facets of football. They can run when they need to or pass when the have to, then the defense has been lights out. Even when the offense doesn't score (i.e. Ithaca game), the defense steps up. I think late in the playoffs they are going to have to be able to be well balance and be able to punch in some short yardage plays to get over that hump.

Will 2018 Brockport be the first East Region team to win the Stagg Bowl since Bush 41?

I am thinking....YES. This is a team that starts with NASTY shutdown defense(they live for TFLs against some decent teams) and will score like lightning with the same QB and wide receivers as last year, just one year better, and their "holes" on the Oline have been filled very nicely . They are well coached and should not panic after their visit to the semis last year. Having watched them beat and then crush two decent Hobart teams the last two years, this is the most complete D3 team I have ever watched in person(includes a few Mount Union and Wesley teams and one St. Thomas team). I wonder if 41 could parachute down one last more time  to start the Stagg Bowl?

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

2018 WEEK 7 TOP 25 FAN POLL

Rank	Team	Points	Prev
1)	Mount Union (6)	222	1
2)	Mary Hardin-Baylor (3)	219	2
3)	Brockport	205	4
4)	St John's	197	6
5)	Frostburg St	186	5
6)	UW-Whitewater	183	7
7)	Wesley	163	8
8)	St Thomas	159	3
9)	John Carroll	150	9
10)	Hardin-Simmons	144	11
11)	Wash & Jeff	129	10
12)	Wittenberg	103	13
13)	UW-Oshkosh	97	T14
14)	North Central	96	17
15)	Berry	93	16
16)	Illinois Wesleyan	86	T14
17)	Whitworth	83	18
18)	Trine	72	19
19)	Muhlenberg	58	T21
20)	RPI	52	20
21)	Case Western Reserve	46	T21
22)	Delaware Valley	42	23
23)	Washington U	34	NR
24)	Linfield	21	NR
25)	Salisbury	19	25

Dropped Out: #12 Wheaton, #24 Central

Also Receiving Votes: Wheaton 16, Central 13, Johns Hopkins 12, Ithaca 6, Marietta 6, Centre 4, Randolph-Macon 4, UW-La Crosse 2, Bethel 1, Monmouth 1, Montclair St 1

Voters: 02 Warhawk, bluestreak66, desertcat1, FCGG, MANDGSU, Mr. Ypsi, NCF, Oline89, and smedindy

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

  1)   Mount Union          222     ( 1,  1,  1,  1,  1,  1,  2,  2,  2)
  2)   Mary Hardin-Baylor   219     ( 1,  1,  1,  2,  2,  2,  2,  2,  2)
  3)   Brockport            205     ( 3,  3,  3,  3,  3,  3,  3,  4,  4)
  4)   St John's            197     ( 3,  3,  4,  4,  4,  4,  5,  5,  5)
  5)   Frostburg St         186     ( 4,  4,  5,  5,  5,  6,  6,  6,  7)
  6)   UW-Whitewater        183     ( 4,  5,  5,  5,  6,  6,  6,  7,  7)
  7)   Wesley               163     ( 6,  6,  7,  7,  8,  8,  9,  9, 11)
  8)   St Thomas            159     ( 6,  7,  8,  8,  8,  8,  8,  9, 13)
  9)   John Carroll         150     ( 7,  7,  8,  9,  9,  9,  9, 10, 16)
10)   Hardin-Simmons       144     ( 7,  8,  9, 10, 10, 10, 10, 12, 14)
11)   Wash & Jeff          129     ( 9, 10, 10, 11, 12, 12, 12, 13, 16)
12)   Wittenberg           103     (11, 11, 12, 12, 13, 14, 15, 17, --)
13)   UW-Oshkosh            97     (10, 11, 11, 11, 14, 15, 16, 23, --)
14)   North Central         96     (12, 13, 13, 14, 14, 15, 18, 18, 21)
15)   Berry                 93     (11, 12, 14, 14, 15, 17, 17, 19, 22)
16)   Illinois Wesleyan     86     (11, 13, 14, 15, 16, 16, 18, 19, --)
17)   Whitworth             83     (10, 13, 15, 16, 16, 19, 19, 21, 22)
18)   Trine                 72     (13, 13, 17, 17, 18, 19, 20, 22, 23)
19)   Muhlenberg            58     (15, 15, 17, 18, 21, 22, 22, 23, 23)
20)   RPI                   52     (14, 17, 19, 20, 20, 21, 21, 24, --)
21)   Case Western Reserve  46     (15, 16, 18, 20, 20, 23, 24, --, --)
22)   Delaware Valley       42     (12, 17, 19, 20, 21, 25, --, --, --)
23)   Washington U          34     (16, 17, 19, 22, 23, 25, --, --, --)
24)   Linfield              21     (18, 20, 23, 24, 24, --, --, --, --)
25)   Salisbury             19     (18, 20, 21, --, --, --, --, --, --)

26)   Wheaton               16     (18, 22, 24, 24)
27)   Central               13     (19, 22, 24)
28)   Johns Hopkins         12     (21, 21, 25, 25)
T29)   Ithaca                 6     (23, 23)
T29)   Marietta               6     (20)
T31)   Centre                 4     (24, 24)
T31)   Randolph-Macon         4     (22)
33)   UW-La Crosse           2     (25, 25)
T34)   Bethel                 1     (25)
T34)   Monmouth               1     (25)
T34)   Montclair St           1     (25)

[02 Warhawk]

UWO not getting a vote from someone, interesting.

They lose by four to a 6-1 D2 team, and lose to a very good UWW team. Both games were on the road too.

[retagent]

Any "quality" wins?

[02 Warhawk]

Any "quality" wins?

Same could be asked about NCC, JCU and a host of other teams in this list.

[smedindy]

Any "quality" wins?

With such a short schedule, backloaded schedules, and many conferences only having one non-conference game, the idea of 'quality' wins as the be-all for rankings isn't the way to go.

Many times, a schedule looks to have a quality team only to have them circling the drain by the time you play them.

Beating Platteville on the road, though, is quality.