D3 Top 25 Fan Poll

Ralph Turner · October 25, 2019, 08:04:51 AM

I have always thought that one should add about 5 more playoff wins to the totals of the ASC and the NWC to compensate for games in which a #1 or #2 seed was playing a #3,#4,#5 seed in the first round because of "geographic proximity".

desertcat1 · October 25, 2019, 11:24:55 AM

Ralph,

I'm with you boo boo.

Go cats
Go big D

Go cru.

FCGrizzliesGrad · October 30, 2019, 05:00:36 PM

Poll will be up at some point. Had one ballot come in late that then needed a correction.

FCGrizzliesGrad · October 31, 2019, 05:27:26 AM

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2019 WEEK 8 TOP 25 FAN POLL

Rank	Team	Points	Prev
1)	Mount Union (7)	199	T1
2)	Mary Hardin-Baylor (1)	192	T1
3)	St John's	179	3
4)	UW-Whitewater	175	4
5)	Wheaton	174	5
6)	Muhlenberg	159	6
7)	Salisbury	138	7
8)	North Central	137	8
9)	Ithaca	133	9
10)	Bethel	118	10
11)	Wartburg	109	11
12)	Delaware Valley	99	T12
13)	Chapman	92	14
14)	Susquehanna	87	T12
15)	UW-Platteville	82	18
16)	John Carroll	81	16
17)	Wesley	74	15
18)	Cortland	69	17
19)	Case Western Reserve	46	19
20)	Hardin-Simmons	42	T21
21)	Union	41	20
22)	Redlands	40	T21
T23)	Linfield	31	T24
T23)	St Thomas	31	23
25)	Berry	26	T24

Dropped Out: None

Also Receiving Votes: Texas Lutheran 22, Baldwin Wallace 6, Bridgewater 6, WPI 6, Brockport 4, Johns Hopkins 1, UW-La Crosse 1

Voters: 02 Warhawk, bluestreak66, desertcat1, FCGG, MANDGSU, NCF, Oline89, and smedindy

FCGrizzliesGrad · October 31, 2019, 05:41:29 AM

1) Mount Union 199 ( 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2)
2) Mary Hardin-Baylor 192 ( 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3)
3) St John's 179 ( 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5, 5)
4) UW-Whitewater 175 ( 3, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 5, 5)
5) Wheaton 174 ( 2, 3, 4, 4, 5, 5, 5, 6)
6) Muhlenberg 159 ( 5, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 8)
7) Salisbury 138 ( 6, 7, 7, 9, 9, 9, 11, 12)
8) North Central 137 ( 7, 7, 8, 8, 9, 10, 11, 11)
9) Ithaca 133 ( 7, 7, 7, 8, 8, 10, 10, 18)
10) Bethel 118 ( 7, 8, 8, 8, 10, 11, 14, 24)
11) Wartburg 109 ( 9, 9, 12, 12, 12, 12, 14, 19)
12) Delaware Valley 99 ( 9, 10, 11, 12, 15, 16, 17, 19)
13) Chapman 92 (10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 15, 18, 19)
14) Susquehanna 87 ( 9, 11, 13, 14, 17, 18, 18, 21)
15) UW-Platteville 82 (10, 11, 12, 16, 17, 18, 20, 22)
16) John Carroll 81 (10, 11, 13, 15, 17, 18, 21, 22)
17) Wesley 74 (13, 15, 15, 15, 16, 16, 20, 24)
18) Cortland 69 (13, 13, 16, 16, 17, 19, 21, 24)
19) Case Western Reserve 46 (14, 16, 17, 21, 22, 22, 24, --)
20) Hardin-Simmons 42 (15, 19, 19, 20, 20, 21, --, --)
21) Union 41 (14, 14, 16, 23, 24, 24, --, --)
22) Redlands 40 (13, 18, 20, 22, 23, 23, 24, 25)
T23) Linfield 31 (13, 14, 21, 25, --, --, --, --)
T23) St Thomas 31 (17, 17, 18, 21, --, --, --, --)
25) Berry 26 (19, 22, 22, 23, 23, 23, 24, --)

26) Texas Lutheran 22 (19, 20, 21, 23, 25)
T27) Baldwin Wallace 6 (20)
T27) Bridgewater 6 (22, 25, 25)
T27) WPI 6 (20)
30) Brockport 4 (23, 25)
T31) Johns Hopkins 1 (25)
T31) UW-La Crosse 1 (25)

FCGrizzliesGrad · November 05, 2019, 05:20:10 PM

D3 Football Map

2019 WEEK 9 TOP 25 FAN POLL

Rank	Team	Points	Prev
1)	Mount Union (7)	199	1
2)	Mary Hardin-Baylor (1)	192	2
3)	UW-Whitewater	181	4
4)	Wheaton	179	5
5)	Muhlenberg	168	6
6)	Salisbury	150	7
7)	North Central	143	8
8)	St John's	129	3
9)	Wartburg	122	11
10)	Bethel	120	10
11)	Delaware Valley	113	12
T12)	Chapman	100	13
T12)	Union	100	21
14)	Susquehanna	99	14
15)	Wesley	96	17
16)	John Carroll	87	16
17)	Case Western Reserve	57	19
18)	Hardin-Simmons	56	20
19)	Redlands	54	22
20)	Linfield	48	T23
21)	Ithaca	46	9
22)	Texas Lutheran	37	NR
23)	St Thomas	36	T23
24)	Berry	34	25
25)	Brockport	21	NR

Dropped Out: #15 UW-Platteville, #18 Cortland

Also Receiving Votes: Bridgewater 14, Baldwin Wallace 7, Cortland 6, UW-Oshkosh 2, Middlebury 1, UW-Platteville 1, W New England 1, Wabash 1

Voters: 02 Warhawk, bluestreak66, desertcat1, FCGG, MANDGSU, NCF, Oline89, and smedindy

FCGrizzliesGrad · November 05, 2019, 05:32:29 PM

1) Mount Union 199 ( 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2)
2) Mary Hardin-Baylor 192 ( 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3)
3) UW-Whitewater 181 ( 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4)
4) Wheaton 179 ( 2, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4, 4, 5)
5) Muhlenberg 168 ( 4, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 6)
6) Salisbury 150 ( 5, 6, 6, 6, 6, 9, 9, 11)
7) North Central 143 ( 6, 7, 7, 8, 9, 9, 9, 10)
8) St John's 129 ( 7, 8, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 14)
9) Wartburg 122 ( 7, 8, 8, 10, 11, 12, 13, 17)
10) Bethel 120 ( 6, 6, 8, 9, 9, 13, 15, 22)
11) Delaware Valley 113 ( 7, 8, 11, 13, 13, 14, 14, 15)
T12) Chapman 100 (10, 11, 11, 13, 14, 16, 16, 17)
T12) Union 100 ( 7, 7, 8, 14, 15, 17, 20, 20)
14) Susquehanna 99 ( 7, 11, 12, 14, 15, 16, 17, 17)
15) Wesley 96 (11, 12, 12, 12, 14, 15, 15, 21)
16) John Carroll 87 (10, 10, 10, 14, 16, 17, 21, 23)
17) Case Western Reserve 57 (13, 15, 16, 18, 20, 20, 23, --)
18) Hardin-Simmons 56 (13, 16, 18, 18, 19, 20, 22, --)
19) Redlands 54 (12, 17, 18, 19, 21, 21, 22, 24)
20) Linfield 48 (12, 13, 18, 21, 22, 24, 25, 25)
21) Ithaca 46 (10, 16, 17, 21, 22, 24, --, --)
22) Texas Lutheran 37 (18, 19, 19, 21, 23, 23, 23, 25)
23) St Thomas 36 (15, 16, 18, 19, --, --, --, --)
24) Berry 34 (18, 19, 21, 22, 22, 23, 23, --)
25) Brockport 21 (19, 20, 20, 24, --, --, --, --)

26) Bridgewater 14 (20, 23, 24, 24, 25)
27) Baldwin Wallace 7 (19)
28) Cortland 6 (22, 24)
29) UW-Oshkosh 2 (24)
T30) Middlebury 1 (25)
T30) UW-Platteville 1 (25)
T30) W New England 1 (25)
T30) Wabash 1 (25)

HSCTiger74 · November 05, 2019, 07:58:23 PM

Quote from: Baldini on November 05, 2019, 06:38:01 PM
Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on November 05, 2019, 05:32:29 PM
1) Mount Union 199 ( 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2)
2) Mary Hardin-Baylor 192 ( 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3)
3) UW-Whitewater 181 ( 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4)
4) Wheaton 179 ( 2, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4, 4, 5)
5) Muhlenberg 168 ( 4, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 6)
6) Salisbury 150 ( 5, 6, 6, 6, 6, 9, 9, 11)
7) North Central 143 ( 6, 7, 7, 8, 9, 9, 9, 10)
8) St John's 129 ( 7, 8, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 14)
9) Wartburg 122 ( 7, 8, 8, 10, 11, 12, 13, 17)
10) Bethel 120 ( 6, 6, 8, 9, 9, 13, 15, 22)
11) Delaware Valley 113 ( 7, 8, 11, 13, 13, 14, 14, 15)
T12) Chapman 100 (10, 11, 11, 13, 14, 16, 16, 17)
T12) Union 100 ( 7, 7, 8, 14, 15, 17, 20, 20)
14) Susquehanna 99 ( 7, 11, 12, 14, 15, 16, 17, 17)
15) Wesley 96 (11, 12, 12, 12, 14, 15, 15, 21)
16) John Carroll 87 (10, 10, 10, 14, 16, 17, 21, 23)
17) Case Western Reserve 57 (13, 15, 16, 18, 20, 20, 23, --)
18) Hardin-Simmons 56 (13, 16, 18, 18, 19, 20, 22, --)
19) Redlands 54 (12, 17, 18, 19, 21, 21, 22, 24)
20) Linfield 48 (12, 13, 18, 21, 22, 24, 25, 25)
21) Ithaca 46 (10, 16, 17, 21, 22, 24, --, --)
22) Texas Lutheran 37 (18, 19, 19, 21, 23, 23, 23, 25)
23) St Thomas 36 (15, 16, 18, 19, --, --, --, --)
24) Berry 34 (18, 19, 21, 22, 22, 23, 23, --)
25) Brockport 21 (19, 20, 20, 24, --, --, --, --)

26) Bridgewater 14 (20, 23, 24, 24, 25)
27) Baldwin Wallace 7 (19)
28) Cortland 6 (22, 24)
29) UW-Oshkosh 2 (24)
T30) Middlebury 1 (25)
T30) UW-Platteville 1 (25)
T30) W New England 1 (25)
T30) Wabash 1 (25)

Middlebury???

By this point in the season if the NESCAC has an undefeated team that has been winning by fairly comfortable margins they'll usually get a vote or two.

bluestreak66 · November 06, 2019, 08:33:23 AM

Quote from: HSCTiger74 on November 05, 2019, 07:58:23 PM
Quote from: Baldini on November 05, 2019, 06:38:01 PM
Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on November 05, 2019, 05:32:29 PM
1) Mount Union 199 ( 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2)
2) Mary Hardin-Baylor 192 ( 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3)
3) UW-Whitewater 181 ( 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4)
4) Wheaton 179 ( 2, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4, 4, 5)
5) Muhlenberg 168 ( 4, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 6)
6) Salisbury 150 ( 5, 6, 6, 6, 6, 9, 9, 11)
7) North Central 143 ( 6, 7, 7, 8, 9, 9, 9, 10)
8) St John's 129 ( 7, 8, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 14)
9) Wartburg 122 ( 7, 8, 8, 10, 11, 12, 13, 17)
10) Bethel 120 ( 6, 6, 8, 9, 9, 13, 15, 22)
11) Delaware Valley 113 ( 7, 8, 11, 13, 13, 14, 14, 15)
T12) Chapman 100 (10, 11, 11, 13, 14, 16, 16, 17)
T12) Union 100 ( 7, 7, 8, 14, 15, 17, 20, 20)
14) Susquehanna 99 ( 7, 11, 12, 14, 15, 16, 17, 17)
15) Wesley 96 (11, 12, 12, 12, 14, 15, 15, 21)
16) John Carroll 87 (10, 10, 10, 14, 16, 17, 21, 23)
17) Case Western Reserve 57 (13, 15, 16, 18, 20, 20, 23, --)
18) Hardin-Simmons 56 (13, 16, 18, 18, 19, 20, 22, --)
19) Redlands 54 (12, 17, 18, 19, 21, 21, 22, 24)
20) Linfield 48 (12, 13, 18, 21, 22, 24, 25, 25)
21) Ithaca 46 (10, 16, 17, 21, 22, 24, --, --)
22) Texas Lutheran 37 (18, 19, 19, 21, 23, 23, 23, 25)
23) St Thomas 36 (15, 16, 18, 19, --, --, --, --)
24) Berry 34 (18, 19, 21, 22, 22, 23, 23, --)
25) Brockport 21 (19, 20, 20, 24, --, --, --, --)

26) Bridgewater 14 (20, 23, 24, 24, 25)
27) Baldwin Wallace 7 (19)
28) Cortland 6 (22, 24)
29) UW-Oshkosh 2 (24)
T30) Middlebury 1 (25)
T30) UW-Platteville 1 (25)
T30) W New England 1 (25)
T30) Wabash 1 (25)

Middlebury???

By this point in the season if the NESCAC has an undefeated team that has been winning by fairly comfortable margins they'll usually get a vote or two.

this might sound unfair, but I find it very hard to rank any NESCAC teams, simply due to the lack of any non-conference games. There's no gauge as to how they compare with the other conferences

02 Warhawk · November 06, 2019, 08:42:03 AM

H-S (6-2) #18
TLU (7-1) #22

10/5: TLU 38 @ H-S 27

DV (8-1) #11
Wesley (7-1) #15

9/14: Wesley 24 @ DV 18

UfanBill · November 06, 2019, 10:06:43 AM

Quote from: bluestreak66 on November 06, 2019, 08:33:23 AM
Quote from: HSCTiger74 on November 05, 2019, 07:58:23 PM
Quote from: Baldini on November 05, 2019, 06:38:01 PM

29) UW-Oshkosh 2 (24)
T30) Middlebury 1 (25)
T30) UW-Platteville 1 (25)
T30) W New England 1 (25)
T30) Wabash 1 (25)[/font]

Middlebury???

By this point in the season if the NESCAC has an undefeated team that has been winning by fairly comfortable margins they'll usually get a vote or two.

this might sound unfair, but I find it very hard to rank any NESCAC teams, simply due to the lack of any non-conference games. There's no gauge as to how they compare with the other conferences

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As a pollster in the East Region Fan Poll I can only offer you this... https://newenglandfootballwriters.com/d-iii-coaches-poll or this https://noontimesports.com/2019/11/04/d3-football-week-10-poll-monday-nov-4th-2019/

The NESCAC, and this year Middlebury, have been ignored by those of us on the ERFP board for the exact reasons you state but they obviously get acclaim from writers and coaches in New England.

UfanBill · November 06, 2019, 10:13:41 AM

Sorry about the ad that wants to pop up on my previous post, if it's still there. I'm not sure why or how to remove it. $:-\$

02 Warhawk · November 06, 2019, 10:20:33 AM

Quote from: UfanBill on November 06, 2019, 10:06:43 AM
Quote from: bluestreak66 on November 06, 2019, 08:33:23 AM
Quote from: HSCTiger74 on November 05, 2019, 07:58:23 PM
Quote from: Baldini on November 05, 2019, 06:38:01 PM

29) UW-Oshkosh 2 (24)
T30) Middlebury 1 (25)
T30) UW-Platteville 1 (25)
T30) W New England 1 (25)
T30) Wabash 1 (25)[/font]

Middlebury???

By this point in the season if the NESCAC has an undefeated team that has been winning by fairly comfortable margins they'll usually get a vote or two.
this might sound unfair, but I find it very hard to rank any NESCAC teams, simply due to the lack of any non-conference games. There's no gauge as to how they compare with the other conferences

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As a pollster in the East Region Fan Poll I can only offer you this... https://newenglandfootballwriters.com/d-iii-coaches-poll or this https://noontimesports.com/2019/11/04/d3-football-week-10-poll-monday-nov-4th-2019/

The NESCAC, and this year Middlebury, have been ignored by those of us on the ERFP board for the exact reasons you state but they obviously get acclaim from writers and coaches in New England.

That's hard to do considering there's literally no data available to suggest teams from the NESCAC are better than the teams in the CCC, NEWMAC, ECFC, etc. As well as vice versa.

What are they basing that off? Comparing team stats? Eye tests?

UfanBill · November 06, 2019, 10:23:58 AM

I would suspect it's largely reputation and a feeling that the NESCAC recruits better players than the rest. The writers and coaches know who the best kids are coming out of New England high schools.

Oline89 · November 06, 2019, 10:36:06 AM

Quote from: UfanBill on November 06, 2019, 10:23:58 AM
I would suspect it's largely reputation and a feeling that the NESCAC recruits better players than the rest. The writers and coaches know who the best kids are coming out of New England high schools.

Hate to say it, but high school play doesn't always equate to the college game. Plus the time commitment in college far exceeds high school, many kids just don't love the game enough to stick with it.