D3 Top 25 Fan Poll

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FCGrizzliesGrad

First poll of the year.


2022 WEEK 1 TOP 25 FAN POLL

Rank
Team
W-L
Points
Prev
1)
Mary Hardin-Baylor (7)
1-0
175
1
2)
North Central
0-0
165
3
3)
St John's
1-0
162
6
4)
Mount Union
1-0
156
5
5)
Hardin-Simmons
1-0
144
10
6)
Wheaton
0-0
128
9
7)
Linfield
1-0
125
4
8)
UW-Whitewater
0-1
122
2
9)
Johns Hopkins
1-0
120
13
10)
Trinity (TX)
1-0
113
11
11)
UW-La Crosse
1-0
110
12
12)
Bethel
1-0
101
15
13)
Delaware Valley
1-0
80
14
14)
UW-Oshkosh
1-0
74
NR
15)
Central
1-0
69
T7
16)
Cortland
1-0
68
17
17)
UW-River Falls
1-0
63
22
18)
Muhlenberg
0-1
53
T7
19)
Ithaca
1-0
47
20
20)
Salisbury
1-0
39
19
T21)
Randolph-Macon
1-0
37
21
T21)
RPI
1-0
37
16
23)
Susquehanna
1-0
22
NR
24)
Carnegie Mellon
1-0
14
NR
25)
Hobart
1-0
11
NR

Dropped Out: #18 Birmingham-Southern, #23 Baldwin Wallace, #24 Redlands, #25 Lake Forest

Also Receiving Votes: Wartburg 10, Heidelberg 9, George Fox 6, Washington & Jefferson 5, Union 4, DePauw 2, Hope 2, Albion 1, Birmingham-Southern 1

Voters: 02 Warhawk, desertcat1, FANOFD3, FCGG, HOPEful, NCF, and smedindy
.

Football picker extraordinaire
5 titles: CCIW, NJAC, ODAC:S
3x: ASC, IIAC, MIAA:S, MIAC, NACC:S, NCAC, OAC:P, Nat'l
2x: HCAC, ODAC:P, WIAC
1x: Bracket, OAC:S

Basketball
2013 WIAC Pickem Co-champ
2015 Nat'l Pickem
2017: LEC and MIAA Pickem
2019: MIAA and WIAC Pickem

Soccer
2023: Mens Pickem

FCGrizzliesGrad

  1)   Mary Hardin-Baylor      175     ( 1,  1,  1,  1,  1,  1,  1)
  2)   North Central           165     ( 2,  2,  2,  2,  2,  3,  4)
  3)   St John's               162     ( 2,  2,  3,  3,  3,  3,  4)
  4)   Mount Union             156     ( 3,  3,  4,  4,  4,  4,  4)
  5)   Hardin-Simmons          144     ( 5,  5,  5,  5,  5,  6,  7)
  6)   Wheaton                 128     ( 5,  6,  6,  7,  7,  9, 14)
  7)   Linfield                125     ( 5,  6,  6,  7,  8, 12, 13)
  8)   UW-Whitewater           122     ( 6,  7,  7,  8, 10, 10, 12)
  9)   Johns Hopkins           120     ( 7,  8,  9,  9,  9, 10, 10)
10)   Trinity (TX)            113     ( 8,  8,  8,  8, 10, 11, 16)
11)   UW-La Crosse            110     ( 6,  9, 11, 11, 11, 11, 13)
12)   Bethel                  101     ( 9,  9, 10, 11, 13, 14, 15)
13)   Delaware Valley          80     (12, 13, 14, 14, 15, 15, 19)
14)   UW-Oshkosh               74     (11, 12, 14, 15, 17, 18, 21)
15)   Central                  69     (12, 13, 13, 16, 16, 17, --)
16)   Cortland                 68     (12, 14, 15, 15, 16, 17, 25)
17)   UW-River Falls           63     (10, 12, 13, 19, 19, 20, --)
18)   Muhlenberg               53     (15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 21, 23)
19)   Ithaca                   47     (16, 17, 17, 19, 19, 21, --)
20)   Salisbury                39     (14, 17, 20, 21, 22, 23, --)
T21)   Randolph-Macon           37     (18, 18, 20, 20, 21, 22, --)
T21)   RPI                      37     (18, 18, 20, 20, 21, 22, --)
23)   Susquehanna              22     (18, 19, 20, 25, --, --, --)
24)   Carnegie Mellon          14     (21, 22, 23, 24, --, --, --)
25)   Hobart                   11     (22, 23, 24, 25, 25, --, --)

26)   Wartburg                 10     (16)
27)   Heidelberg                9     (22, 23, 24)
28)   George Fox                6     (23, 23)
29)   Wash & Jeff               5     (24, 24, 25)
30)   Union                     4     (22)
T31)   DePauw                    2     (24)
T31)   Hope                      2     (24)
T33)   Albion                    1     (25)
T33)   Birmingham-Southern       1     (25)
.

Football picker extraordinaire
5 titles: CCIW, NJAC, ODAC:S
3x: ASC, IIAC, MIAA:S, MIAC, NACC:S, NCAC, OAC:P, Nat'l
2x: HCAC, ODAC:P, WIAC
1x: Bracket, OAC:S

Basketball
2013 WIAC Pickem Co-champ
2015 Nat'l Pickem
2017: LEC and MIAA Pickem
2019: MIAA and WIAC Pickem

Soccer
2023: Mens Pickem

HOPEful

Feels a little like we all used the D3Football rankings and just tweaked them to our bias/liking. At some point, I'll take the time to blow up my rankings and do them more justice and without referencing pre-existing rankings. But with the holiday weekend, I didn't have time and was somewhat lazy about it.
Let's go Dutchmen!

2015-2016 1-&-Done Tournament Fantasy League Co-Champion

FCGrizzliesGrad

Did a bit of checking comparing ballots to the top 26 (our only top 25 team not in the actual poll, Carnegie Mellon, was 26th in the D3F poll) and used 26th as a holder for not including on a ballot.

5 of the 7 ballots were about what you'd expect, between 1.65 and 2.08 positions different on average and between 17 and 22 teams within 2 spots of the D3F poll.
One ballot was quite similar averaging just 0.69 positions different on average and 24 teams within 2 of their D3F position.
And one ballot averaged 3.81 different per team and just 11 teams within 2 of the D3F poll.

Only 4 teams (from just 2 voters) were more than 7 positions different than the D3F poll (#19 UWRF at 10, #15 Cortland at 25, #16 Ithaca and #13 Central not ranked)
.

Football picker extraordinaire
5 titles: CCIW, NJAC, ODAC:S
3x: ASC, IIAC, MIAA:S, MIAC, NACC:S, NCAC, OAC:P, Nat'l
2x: HCAC, ODAC:P, WIAC
1x: Bracket, OAC:S

Basketball
2013 WIAC Pickem Co-champ
2015 Nat'l Pickem
2017: LEC and MIAA Pickem
2019: MIAA and WIAC Pickem

Soccer
2023: Mens Pickem

FCGrizzliesGrad

2022 WEEK 2 TOP 25 FAN POLL
Rank
Team
W-L
Points
Prev
1)
St John's (4)
2-0
195
3
2)
North Central (4)
1-0
194
2
T3)
Mount Union
1-0
177
4
T3)
UW-Whitewater
1-1
177
8
5)
Mary Hardin-Baylor
1-1
169
1
6)
Hardin-Simmons
1-0
154
5
7)
Trinity (TX)
2-0
148
10
8)
Linfield
1-0
146
7
9)
UW-La Crosse
2-0
130
11
10)
Wheaton
0-1
126
6
11)
Johns Hopkins
2-0
119
9
12)
UW-River Falls
1-1
103
17
13)
Central
2-0
98
15
14)
Delaware Valley
2-0
95
13
15)
Cortland
2-0
79
16
16)
Ithaca
2-0
74
19
17)
UW-Oshkosh
1-1
68
14
18)
Muhlenberg
1-1
66
18
19)
Carnegie Mellon
2-0
44
24
T20)
Randolph-Macon
2-0
42
T21
T20)
UW-Platteville
1-1
42
NR
22)
Bethel
1-1
32
12
23)
Heidelberg
2-0
26
NR
24)
Wartburg
2-0
15
NR
25)
Susquehanna
2-0
14
23

Dropped Out: #20 Salisbury, #T21 RPI, #25 Hobart

Also Receiving Votes: George Fox 12, Union 12, Huntingdon 11, RPI 8, Wash & Jeff 6, DePauw 5, Salisbury 5, Birmingham-Southern 3, Albion 2, Stevenson 2, Hope 1

Voters: 02 Warhawk, Captainred81, desertcat1, FANOFD3, FCGG, HOPEful, NCF, and smedindy
.

Football picker extraordinaire
5 titles: CCIW, NJAC, ODAC:S
3x: ASC, IIAC, MIAA:S, MIAC, NACC:S, NCAC, OAC:P, Nat'l
2x: HCAC, ODAC:P, WIAC
1x: Bracket, OAC:S

Basketball
2013 WIAC Pickem Co-champ
2015 Nat'l Pickem
2017: LEC and MIAA Pickem
2019: MIAA and WIAC Pickem

Soccer
2023: Mens Pickem

FCGrizzliesGrad

  1)   St John's               195     ( 1,  1,  1,  1,  2,  2,  2,  3)
  2)   North Central           194     ( 1,  1,  1,  1,  2,  2,  2,  4)
T3)   Mount Union             177     ( 2,  3,  3,  3,  5,  5,  5,  5)
T3)   UW-Whitewater           177     ( 2,  3,  3,  3,  4,  4,  5,  7)
  5)   Mary Hardin-Baylor      169     ( 3,  4,  4,  4,  5,  5,  6,  8)
  6)   Hardin-Simmons          154     ( 4,  5,  6,  6,  6,  7, 10, 10)
  7)   Trinity (TX)            148     ( 6,  6,  6,  7,  7,  9,  9, 10)
  8)   Linfield                146     ( 4,  6,  7,  7,  7,  9,  9, 13)
  9)   UW-La Crosse            130     ( 7,  8,  9,  9,  9, 10, 12, 14)
10)   Wheaton                 126     ( 8,  8,  8,  8, 10, 11, 13, 16)
11)   Johns Hopkins           119     ( 8,  9, 10, 10, 11, 11, 14, 16)
12)   UW-River Falls          103     ( 8, 10, 11, 11, 12, 17, 17, 19)
13)   Central                  98     (11, 12, 13, 13, 14, 15, 15, 17)
14)   Delaware Valley          95     (12, 12, 13, 13, 13, 16, 16, 18)
15)   Cortland                 79     (11, 14, 14, 14, 15, 18, 20, 23)
16)   Ithaca                   74     (12, 15, 15, 15, 16, 16, 19, --)
17)   UW-Oshkosh               68     (11, 12, 14, 16, 17, 18, --, --)
18)   Muhlenberg               66     (15, 16, 17, 18, 18, 18, 19, 21)
19)   Carnegie Mellon          44     (15, 18, 19, 20, 20, 23, 24, 25)
T20)   Randolph-Macon           42     (17, 18, 20, 20, 20, 21, 24, --)
T20)   UW-Platteville           42     (12, 13, 22, 23, 23, 24, 24, 25)
22)   Bethel                   32     (17, 17, 21, 21, 23, 25, --, --)
23)   Heidelberg               26     (20, 22, 22, 22, 22, 22, --, --)
24)   Wartburg                 15     (14, 24, 25, --, --, --, --, --)
25)   Susquehanna              14     (19, 23, 23, 25, --, --, --, --)

T26)   George Fox               12     (20, 21, 25)
T26)   Union                    12     (19, 21)
28)   Huntingdon               11     (19, 22)
29)   RPI                       8     (19, 25)
30)   Wash & Jeff               6     (22, 24)
T31)   DePauw                    5     (21)
T31)   Salisbury                 5     (21)
33)   Birmingham-Southern       3     (23)
T34)   Albion                    2     (24)
T34)   Stevenson                 2     (24)
36)   Hope                      1     (25)
.

Football picker extraordinaire
5 titles: CCIW, NJAC, ODAC:S
3x: ASC, IIAC, MIAA:S, MIAC, NACC:S, NCAC, OAC:P, Nat'l
2x: HCAC, ODAC:P, WIAC
1x: Bracket, OAC:S

Basketball
2013 WIAC Pickem Co-champ
2015 Nat'l Pickem
2017: LEC and MIAA Pickem
2019: MIAA and WIAC Pickem

Soccer
2023: Mens Pickem

FCGrizzliesGrad

Had some delayed ballots this week. Hopefully the poll will be up earlier next week.


2022 WEEK 3 TOP 25 FAN POLL
Rank
Team
W-L
Points
Prev
1)
St John's (4)
2-0
195
1
2)
North Central (4)
2-0
191
2
3)
UW-Whitewater
2-1
179
T3
4)
Mount Union
2-0
173
T3
5)
Mary Hardin-Baylor
2-1
171
5
6)
Hardin-Simmons
2-0
164
6
7)
Trinity (TX)
3-0
147
7
8)
Linfield
2-0
144
8
9)
Wheaton
1-1
127
10
10)
UW-La Crosse
3-0
126
9
11)
Johns Hopkins
3-0
124
11
12)
Cortland
3-0
99
15
13)
UW-River Falls
2-1
98
12
T14)
Delaware Valley
3-0
93
14
T14)
Ithaca
3-0
93
16
16)
UW-Oshkosh
2-1
81
17
17)
Carnegie Mellon
3-0
62
19
18)
Randolph-Macon
3-0
60
T20
19)
Heidelberg
3-0
50
23
20)
Susquehanna
3-0
34
25
21)
Wartburg
3-0
30
24
22)
Union
3-0
29
NR
T23)
Albion
3-0
24
NR
T23)
George Fox
3-0
24
NR
25)
Bethel
1-1
21
22

Dropped Out: #13 Central, #18 Muhlenberg, #T20 UW-Platteville

Also Receiving Votes: Huntingdon 18, Case Western Reserve 9, Stevenson 9, DePauw 7, Central 6, Birmingham-Southern 5, Ursinus 2, Mount St Joseph 1, Muhlenberg 1, Rowan 1, RPI 1, Washington U 1

Voters: 02 Warhawk, Captainred81, desertcat1, FANOFD3, FCGG, HOPEful, NCF, and smedindy
.

Football picker extraordinaire
5 titles: CCIW, NJAC, ODAC:S
3x: ASC, IIAC, MIAA:S, MIAC, NACC:S, NCAC, OAC:P, Nat'l
2x: HCAC, ODAC:P, WIAC
1x: Bracket, OAC:S

Basketball
2013 WIAC Pickem Co-champ
2015 Nat'l Pickem
2017: LEC and MIAA Pickem
2019: MIAA and WIAC Pickem

Soccer
2023: Mens Pickem

FCGrizzliesGrad

  1)   St John's               195     ( 1,  1,  1,  1,  2,  2,  2,  3)
  2)   North Central           191     ( 1,  1,  1,  1,  2,  2,  4,  5)
  3)   UW-Whitewater           179     ( 2,  2,  3,  3,  3,  4,  5,  7)
  4)   Mount Union             173     ( 2,  3,  3,  5,  5,  5,  6,  6)
  5)   Mary Hardin-Baylor      171     ( 3,  3,  4,  4,  4,  5,  6,  8)
  6)   Hardin-Simmons          164     ( 4,  4,  5,  5,  6,  6,  7,  7)
  7)   Trinity (TX)            147     ( 6,  6,  7,  7,  7,  9,  9, 10)
  8)   Linfield                144     ( 4,  6,  7,  8,  8,  9,  9, 13)
  9)   Wheaton                 127     ( 8,  9,  9, 10, 10, 11, 11, 13)
10)   UW-La Crosse            126     ( 7,  8,  8,  8, 10, 11, 12, 18)
11)   Johns Hopkins           124     ( 9,  9, 10, 10, 10, 11, 12, 13)
12)   Cortland                 99     (10, 11, 12, 13, 13, 14, 16, 20)
13)   UW-River Falls           98     ( 8, 11, 12, 15, 15, 16, 16, 17)
T14)   Delaware Valley          93     (12, 12, 13, 14, 14, 15, 17, 18)
T14)   Ithaca                   93     (11, 12, 13, 14, 14, 14, 15, 22)
16)   UW-Oshkosh               81     (11, 12, 13, 15, 15, 16, 19, --)
17)   Carnegie Mellon          62     (15, 16, 16, 18, 19, 20, 21, 21)
18)   Randolph-Macon           60     (16, 17, 17, 17, 17, 18, 20, --)
19)   Heidelberg               50     (15, 16, 18, 18, 20, 22, 23, --)
20)   Susquehanna              34     (17, 21, 21, 22, 22, 22, 23, --)
21)   Wartburg                 30     (14, 20, 22, 22, 24, 25, 25, --)
22)   Union                    29     (17, 19, 21, 23, 23, 24, --, --)
T23)   Albion                   24     (18, 19, 21, 24, 24, --, --, --)
T23)   George Fox               24     (18, 19, 20, 24, 25, --, --, --)
25)   Bethel                   21     (19, 19, 23, 24, 24, --, --, --)

26)   Huntingdon               18     (14, 20)
T27)   Case Western Reserve      9     (21, 22)
T27)   Stevenson                 9     (20, 23)
29)   DePauw                    7     (19)
30)   Central                   6     (23, 23)
31)   Birmingham-Southern       5     (21)
32)   Ursinus                   2     (24)
T33)   Mount St Joseph           1     (25)
T33)   Muhlenberg                1     (25)
T33)   Rowan                     1     (25)
T33)   RPI                       1     (25)
T33)   Washington U              1     (25)
.

Football picker extraordinaire
5 titles: CCIW, NJAC, ODAC:S
3x: ASC, IIAC, MIAA:S, MIAC, NACC:S, NCAC, OAC:P, Nat'l
2x: HCAC, ODAC:P, WIAC
1x: Bracket, OAC:S

Basketball
2013 WIAC Pickem Co-champ
2015 Nat'l Pickem
2017: LEC and MIAA Pickem
2019: MIAA and WIAC Pickem

Soccer
2023: Mens Pickem

FCGrizzliesGrad

If UMHB beats Hardin-Simmons tonight, it will be super fun figuring out who's ahead of who ::)... Hardin-Simmons beat Platteville who beat Bethel who beat St John's who beat Whitewater who beat Mary Hardin-Baylor who could potentially beat Hardin-Simmons tonight. A nice little loop of 4 teams in the top 6, another ranked team, and Platteville.
.

Football picker extraordinaire
5 titles: CCIW, NJAC, ODAC:S
3x: ASC, IIAC, MIAA:S, MIAC, NACC:S, NCAC, OAC:P, Nat'l
2x: HCAC, ODAC:P, WIAC
1x: Bracket, OAC:S

Basketball
2013 WIAC Pickem Co-champ
2015 Nat'l Pickem
2017: LEC and MIAA Pickem
2019: MIAA and WIAC Pickem

Soccer
2023: Mens Pickem

Cowboy2

Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on September 24, 2022, 07:04:03 PM
If UMHB beats Hardin-Simmons tonight, it will be super fun figuring out who's ahead of who ::)... Hardin-Simmons beat Platteville who beat Bethel who beat St John's who beat Whitewater who beat Mary Hardin-Baylor who could potentially beat Hardin-Simmons tonight. A nice little loop of 4 teams in the top 6, another ranked team, and Platteville.

Correction...If HSU beats themselves*

was a good game up the last two minutes. Let's see how they respond second half.

bleedpurple

Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on September 24, 2022, 07:04:03 PM
If UMHB beats Hardin-Simmons tonight, it will be super fun figuring out who's ahead of who ::)... Hardin-Simmons beat Platteville who beat Bethel who beat St John's who beat Whitewater who beat Mary Hardin-Baylor who could potentially beat Hardin-Simmons tonight. A nice little loop of 4 teams in the top 6, another ranked team, and Platteville.

There is no answer.

Today's results could either scramble everything or simply change things for a couple of teams.  Looking in the aggregate (based on the poll, not on my assessment of the teams) maybe a reasonable (but far from perfect) Top 10 would be:

1. NCC
2. Mount Union
3. St. John's
4. UW-W
5. UMHB
6. Trinity
7 Bethel
8. Linfield
9. Johns Hopkins
10 UW-LC

This puts a premium on head to head results. Even though it doesn't do Bethel justice being behind St. John's, given the previous ranking gap, maybe it is palatable, if not perfect. This result honors the head to heads (for the most part) and puts a premium on quality wins without excessive punishment for losses to power teams.

Cowboy2

Quote from: bleedpurple on September 24, 2022, 10:28:48 PM
Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on September 24, 2022, 07:04:03 PM
If UMHB beats Hardin-Simmons tonight, it will be super fun figuring out who's ahead of who ::)... Hardin-Simmons beat Platteville who beat Bethel who beat St John's who beat Whitewater who beat Mary Hardin-Baylor who could potentially beat Hardin-Simmons tonight. A nice little loop of 4 teams in the top 6, another ranked team, and Platteville.

There is no answer.

Today's results could either scramble everything or simply change things for a couple of teams.  Looking in the aggregate (based on the poll, not on my assessment of the teams) maybe a reasonable (but far from perfect) Top 10 would be:

1. NCC
2. Mount Union
3. St. John's
4. UW-W
5. UMHB
6. Trinity
7 Bethel
8. Linfield
9. Johns Hopkins
10 UW-LC

This puts a premium on head to head results. Even though it doesn't do Bethel justice being behind St. John's, given the previous ranking gap, maybe it is palatable, if not perfect. This result honors the head to heads (for the most part) and puts a premium on quality wins without excessive punishment for losses to power teams.


The good thing about all of the OOC matchups, is that they show there is parity amongst the regions now. I'm sure we may get some movement or affirmation in the coming weeks:

1. NCC - still has to play Wheaton
2. Mount Union - a long ways to go before they play John Carroll
3. St. John's - can get another crack at Bethal in conf ship
4. UW-W - Still has the WIAC
5. UMHB - should coast until playoffs
6. Trinity - BSC/Centre/Berry still on schedule
7 Bethel - Gustavus next week
8. Linfield - could be top 5 in a few weeks
9. Johns Hopkins - still play muhlenberg and susquehanna
10 UW-LC - still has WIAC

desertcat1

Your too late boys my ballot was in early,   ;D

Show me a good loss and I will show you all a loser.  :'(

15 and 0 could still win it all .  :-*
" If you are going to be a bear, be a Grizzly"

C.W. Smith

Cowboy2

New D3 top 25 just released. Bethel jumped up but still outside of the top 10...

02 Warhawk

Yeah, this was the toughest poll I've ever done. I usually put a lot of stock into H2H matchups, but this week it formed kind of a paradox of sorts. Like FCG mentioned above.

UWW>MHB>H-S>UWP>Bethel>SJU

But then SJU beat UWW. Not to mention all those teams have just one (D3) loss. So one or two of those teams won't make sense in the poll, considering they beat a team that'll be ranked right above them.