D3 Top 25 Fan Poll

[Ice Bear]

  1)   North Central       175     ( 1,  1,  1,  1,  1,  1,  1)
  2)   Mount Union         162     ( 2,  2,  2,  2,  3,  4,  5)
  3)   UW-Whitewater       159     ( 2,  2,  3,  4,  4,  4,  4)
  4)   Wartburg            157     ( 2,  3,  3,  3,  4,  5,  5)
  5)   UW-River Falls      149     ( 3,  3,  4,  5,  6,  6,  6)
  6)   Trinity (TX)        126     ( 5,  7,  7,  8,  9,  9, 11)
  7)   Wheaton             122     ( 6,  7,  8,  8,  9, 10, 12)
  8)   St John's           121     ( 5,  6,  7,  8,  8, 10, 17)
  9)   Johns Hopkins       118     ( 6,  7,  8,  9,  9,  9, 16)
10)   John Carroll        107     ( 6,  7, 10, 11, 12, 14, 15)
11)   Susquehanna          97     ( 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 13, 17)
12)   Randolph-Macon       88     (10, 10, 11, 11, 14, 18, 20)
13)   Linfield             84     ( 5,  7,  8, 13, 20, 21, 24)
14)   Aurora               79     (12, 13, 13, 14, 16, 16, 19)
15)   Cortland             76     (11, 12, 13, 14, 17, 19, 20)
16)   Alma                 74     (12, 14, 15, 15, 15, 17, 20)
17)   UW-Oshkosh           73     (14, 14, 15, 15, 16, 16, 19)
18)   Ithaca               68     (11, 12, 13, 17, 18, 20, 23)
19)   UW-La Crosse         47     (10, 17, 18, 18, 20, --, --)
20)   Endicott             46     (15, 16, 18, 18, 19, 24, --)
T21)   Hardin-Simmons       29     (17, 19, 21, 21, 24, 25, --)
T21)   Muhlenberg           29     (19, 20, 21, 22, 22, 23, --)
23)   Wash & Jeff          17     (19, 21, 23, 24, --, --, --)
24)   Mary Hardin-Baylor   15     (21, 21, 23, 25, 25, --, --)
25)   Whitworth            10     (16, --, --, --, --, --, --)

26)   Berry                 9     (22, 22, 25)
27)   UW-Platteville        8     (18)
28)   Delaware Valley       5     (22, 25)
T29)   Bethel                4     (22)
T29)   DePauw                4     (22)
T31)   Albion                3     (23)
T31)   Coe                   3     (23)
33)   Redlands              3     (23)
T34)   Carnegie Mellon       2     (24)
T34)   Denison               2     (24)
T34)   Grove City            2     (25, 25)
T34)   Howard Payne          2     (24)

You guys do a very nice job here. Let me know if you ever need another contributor. I can't say I'd be on point as I am still working to extend my reach to as much of the D3 football world as I can. Again, nice job fellas.

[IC798891]

Proposal:

Every week, take the one team that has the biggest disparity in rankings, and as the two pollsters to (respectfully) discuss it.

As someone who is very interested in the national polls, I'd love to hear more about why people see Linfield 19 spots different, or the person who has UWL at 10 and the person who has them unranked. Not to argue or prove each other wrong, but in a "Do you see what I see?" type of discourse

[nccfac]

I like this proposal!

[JCUStreaks70]

I like it too.. Justify your decisions!

[Ralph Turner]

As a non-voter, yes. Please do this.
Thanks & +1!

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

2023 WEEK 5 TOP 25 FAN POLL

Rank	Team	W-L	Points	Prev
1)	North Central (6)	4-0	150	1
2)	UW-Whitewater	4-0	139	3
T3)	Mount Union	4-0	134	2
T3)	Wartburg	5-0	134	4
5)	UW-River Falls	4-0	130	5
6)	Trinity (TX)	4-1	112	6
7)	Johns Hopkins	4-0	104	9
8)	St John's	3-1	103	8
9)	John Carroll	3-1	95	10
10)	Susquehanna	5-0	91	11
11)	Randolph-Macon	4-0	86	12
12)	Linfield	3-0	84	13
13)	Aurora	4-0	77	14
14)	Cortland	3-1	71	15
15)	Alma	5-0	66	16
16)	Wheaton	3-1	65	7
17)	Ithaca	3-1	58	18
18)	Endicott	4-1	44	20
19)	UW-La Crosse	3-1	42	19
20)	Hardin-Simmons	3-1	39	T21
21)	Muhlenberg	4-0	28	T21
22)	UW-Oshkosh	2-2	22	17
T23)	Grove City	5-0	18	NR
T23)	Mary Hardin-Baylor	1-3	18	24
25)	Whitworth	3-0	13	25

Dropped Out: #23 Washington & Jefferson

Also Receiving Votes: Delaware Valley 7, Berry 5, Augsburg 4, Bethel 3, Coe 2, Union 2, Wash & Jeff 2, DePauw 1, Washington U 1

Voters: bluestreak66, Captainred81, desertcat1, FCGG, MRMIKESMITH, NCF, and smedindy

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

  1)   North Central       150     ( 1,  1,  1,  1,  1,  1)
  2)   UW-Whitewater       139     ( 2,  2,  2,  3,  4,  4)
T3)   Mount Union         134     ( 2,  2,  4,  4,  5,  5)
T3)   Wartburg            134     ( 2,  3,  3,  4,  5,  5)
  5)   UW-River Falls      130     ( 3,  3,  3,  4,  6,  7)
  6)   Trinity (TX)        112     ( 5,  7,  8,  8,  8,  8)
  7)   Johns Hopkins       104     ( 6,  7,  9,  9,  9, 12)
  8)   St John's           103     ( 6,  7,  7,  7,  9, 17)
  9)   John Carroll         95     ( 6,  6,  9, 11, 14, 15)
10)   Susquehanna          91     ( 6, 10, 11, 12, 12, 14)
11)   Randolph-Macon       86     (10, 10, 11, 11, 11, 17)
12)   Linfield             84     ( 5,  8,  8, 12, 19, 20)
13)   Aurora               77     ( 9, 13, 14, 14, 14, 15)
14)   Cortland             71     (10, 11, 12, 15, 18, 19)
15)   Alma                 66     (12, 13, 13, 14, 18, 20)
16)   Wheaton              65     (10, 13, 15, 15, 16, 22)
17)   Ithaca               58     (13, 15, 16, 17, 17, 20)
18)   Endicott             44     (16, 16, 17, 19, 21, 23)
19)   UW-La Crosse         42     (10, 16, 19, 20, 23, --)
20)   Hardin-Simmons       39     (17, 18, 18, 21, 21, 22)
21)   Muhlenberg           28     (18, 20, 21, 21, 22, --)
22)   UW-Oshkosh           22     (18, 19, 19, --, --, --)
T23)   Grove City           18     (16, 22, 23, 25, --, --)
T23)   Mary Hardin-Baylor   18     (20, 21, 22, 23, --, --)
25)   Whitworth            13     (13, --, --, --, --, --)

26)   Delaware Valley       7     (23, 24, 24)
27)   Berry                 5     (24, 24, 25)
28)   Augsburg              4     (22)
29)   Bethel                3     (23)
T30)   Coe                   2     (24)
T30)   Union                 2     (25, 25)
T30)   Wash & Jeff           2     (24)
T33)   DePauw                1     (25)
T33)   Washington U          1     (25)

[bluestreak66]

there are a few teams that I was way higher or lower than average on:

Wheaton- I had them at 10. Last, week, they were 6th on my ballot, and based on the result against North Central, I did feel they deserved to drop a little. But In my opinion, I think North Central would have had that result or better against 98% of the division, so I didn't think they deserved to drop too far based off of one game just because they are unfortunate enough to play in the same conference as the team that is, in my opinion, the favorite to win the championship this year. Especially given their solid wins over UW-Oshkosh (a very solid team from the clear cut best conference), and a much improved Augustana team. To me, they still seem like a very likely 9-1 team with a shot to host at least one playoff game.

Alma- I had them at 12. I feel like because they are in the MIAA and haven't played the toughest schedule yet, a lot of people are skeptical of ranking them too high. But I rewarded them for beating everyone they've played handily, and also their mutual result against ONU as Mount Union

Linfield-I had them at 19, and this is the only team I ranked way lower than their place in the poll. It comes down to the fact that I can't really look past their close games vs. Redlands and Denison. While I acknowledge both those teams are in fact decent opponents (although Dension's loss to Wittenburg vs. Wittenburg's sound loss to Alma definitely tarnishes that result further), I feel like the teams I ranked above Linfeild would have had better results against those two teams.

[smedindy]

I gave votes to Augsburg and Bethel. I left off LaCrosse, UMHB, and Whitworth. I was also high on Oshkosh. I can't get a handle on the WIAC besides Whitewater and River Falls. But who can, really, until we get deeper in conference season.

[Captainred81]

I also have Linfield down pretty far.  I'm not sure they are playing like a top 10 team right now.  In fact, I question how competitive they would be against anyone in the top 15.  I have them at 20. 
I still have UMHB ranked 22 because I believe they will beat Hardin Simmons and Howard Payne and make the playoffs as the only team out of the ASC.  I would not like to have them as my first round match.  They most likely will travel to west for the first round, or Trinity I suppose, either way I would not like to play last years Semi finalist and only 2 years removed from a Stagg bowl win in the first round . 
I brought in Grove City at 23 Berry at 24. 

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

I need to post because I am unable to send a message to one of our voters. First time I've had an issue messaging someone.

User 'MRMIKESMITH' has blocked your personal message.

I believe you've forgotten to include Trinity (TX) on your ballot.

[MRMIKESMITH]

I need to post because I am unable to send a message to one of our voters. First time I've had an issue messaging someone.

User 'MRMIKESMITH' has blocked your personal message.

I believe you've forgotten to include Trinity (TX) on your ballot.

Updated. Thanks!

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

2023 WEEK 6 TOP 25 FAN POLL

Rank	Team	W-L	Points	Prev
1)	North Central (7)	5-0	175	1
2)	Mount Union	5-0	162	T3
3)	Wartburg	6-0	161	T3
4)	UW-River Falls	5-0	150	5
5)	Trinity (TX)	5-1	144	6
6)	Johns Hopkins	5-0	128	7
7)	UW-Whitewater	4-1	122	2
8)	UW-La Crosse	4-1	117	19
9)	St John's	4-1	109	8
10)	Randolph-Macon	5-0	98	11
11)	Susquehanna	6-0	95	10
12)	Linfield	4-0	93	12
13)	Wheaton	4-1	88	16
14)	John Carroll	4-1	84	9
15)	Alma	5-0	83	15
16)	Aurora	5-0	82	13
17)	Cortland	4-1	78	14
18)	Ithaca	4-1	76	17
19)	Endicott	4-1	57	18
20)	Muhlenberg	5-0	39	21
21)	Hardin-Simmons	4-1	37	20
22)	Grove City	6-0	26	T23
23)	Mary Hardin-Baylor	2-3	19	T23
24)	Berry	4-1	13	NR
25)	Whitworth	4-0	11	25

Dropped Out: #22 UW-Oshkosh

Also Receiving Votes: DePauw 6, Delaware Valley 5, Augsburg 4, Bethel 4, Union 3, Belhaven 2, Coe 2, Howard Payne 1, Marietta 1

Voters: bluestreak66, Captainred81, desertcat1, FCGG, MRMIKESMITH, NCF, and smedindy

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

  1)   North Central       175     ( 1,  1,  1,  1,  1,  1,  1)
  2)   Mount Union         162     ( 2,  2,  2,  3,  3,  4,  4)
  3)   Wartburg            161     ( 2,  2,  3,  3,  3,  4,  4)
  4)   UW-River Falls      150     ( 2,  2,  3,  3,  5,  6, 11)
  5)   Trinity (TX)        144     ( 4,  4,  5,  5,  5,  6,  9)
  6)   Johns Hopkins       128     ( 4,  6,  7,  8,  8, 10, 11)
  7)   UW-Whitewater       122     ( 6,  6,  7,  8,  8, 10, 15)
  8)   UW-La Crosse        117     ( 5,  6,  7,  7, 11, 14, 15)
  9)   St John's           109     ( 5,  8, 10, 11, 11, 12, 16)
10)   Randolph-Macon       98     ( 9,  9, 11, 12, 12, 13, 18)
11)   Susquehanna          95     ( 9,  9, 12, 12, 13, 15, 17)
12)   Linfield             93     ( 5,  7,  9, 12, 16, 20, 20)
13)   Wheaton              88     ( 6,  8, 13, 16, 16, 17, 18)
14)   John Carroll         84     ( 7, 10, 11, 12, 15, 20, 23)
15)   Alma                 83     (10, 13, 13, 14, 14, 15, 20)
16)   Aurora               82     ( 8, 14, 14, 14, 15, 16, 19)
17)   Cortland             78     (10, 10, 13, 16, 18, 18, 19)
18)   Ithaca               76     ( 7, 13, 14, 17, 17, 18, 20)
19)   Endicott             57     ( 9, 16, 17, 18, 19, 21, 25)
20)   Muhlenberg           39     (19, 19, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23)
21)   Hardin-Simmons       37     (17, 18, 19, 21, 22, 23, 25)
22)   Grove City           26     (17, 20, 22, 23, 24, 25, 25)
23)   Mary Hardin-Baylor   19     (21, 21, 21, 22, --, --, --)
24)   Berry                13     (21, 22, 24, 24, --, --, --)
25)   Whitworth            11     (15, --, --, --, --, --, --)

26)   DePauw                6     (22, 24)
27)   Delaware Valley       5     (23, 24)
T28)   Augsburg              4     (22)
T28)   Bethel                4     (23, 25)
30)   Union                 3     (23)
T31)   Belhaven              2     (24)
T31)   Coe                   2     (24)
T33)   Howard Payne          1     (25)
T33)   Marietta              1     (25)

[bluestreak66]

I was the high voter on all 3 WIAC teams this week (3 in the top 6). This is just about as good as we've seen the division's best conference, and I truly believe they are worthy of having three teams that high.

Based on that logic, I was the one vote for Marietta this week (#25 in the ORV list). In my opinion, they are indirectly tied to Whitewater via John Carroll, who lost to Whitewater by 3 but beat Marietta by 3. That, coupled with their relatively competitive result against Mount Union, actually made me bump them in to the bottom of the 25.