Official 2010 PLAYOFFS reaction thread

[MonroviaCat]

Well, FWIW it's rainy and cool down here in L.A. anyway so they might as well play in Oregon!

[Gray Fox]

It seems that there were a lot of high scoring games today.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Half the remaining field is from just four conferences, as the OAC, CCIW, MIAC, and NJAC as went 2-0.  Not such a good day for the two other conferences with two teams, as the ODAC and IIAC both went 0-2.

[Ralph Turner]

Half the remaining field is from just four conferences, as the OAC, CCIW, MIAC, and NJAC as went 2-0.  Not such a good day for the two other conferences with two teams, as the ODAC and IIAC both went 0-2.

And I think that the #2 team from the ASC, (either HSU or Louisiana College) could beat 16 of the teams in the original bracket.

I have yet to confirm the rumor that UMHB's head coach Pete Fredenburg sent Louisiana College's head coach a dozen 32 oz. steaks for Louisiana College's beating Hardin-Simmons.   

[magicman]

ESPN's Bottom line has been showing the D3 football playoff scores from today's games. They have Muhlenburg beating Wesley 53-14. ESPN "The Worldwide Leader in Sports". I would think that by 7:45 in the evening you'd have the right score posted even if you had made a mistake earlier in the day.

[Ron Boerger]

ESPN had a story on earlier today calling Gregg Popovich "George."  Methinks their fact checking ain't what it used to be. 

[Pat Coleman]

Half the remaining field is from just four conferences, as the OAC, CCIW, MIAC, and NJAC as went 2-0.  Not such a good day for the two other conferences with two teams, as the ODAC and IIAC both went 0-2.

And I think that the #2 team from the ASC, (either HSU or Louisiana College) could beat 16 of the teams in the original bracket.

The ASC isn't alone, though.

[ADL70]

Hate to go back to the selection process, but I just stumbled upon another instance of the NCAA's utter imcompetence in administering its selection criteria.

The ratings spread sheet for 11/10 had Case 6-1 in-region, when they were 6-2 (two conference losses)

http://web1.ncaa.org/champsel_new/exec/pdf/staticpdfrank

And I see the DII committees are secure enough to release their final RRs.

[altor]

The difference is Franklin had a field that was usable, and in fact, started the playoffs on that field, if you recall, before a playoff game tore it up.

Actually, Franklin was the #5 seed in 2008 and played the first two rounds on the road that year, at Otterbein and at NCC.  The field was torn up during the Hanover game.  IIRC, they also were planning to put in new field turf after the season, so there may have been mitigating circumstances regarding the entire situation.

[Pat Coleman]

Sorry, true. But they did file to host with that field, which is the real point.

[George Thompson]

Pat Coleman,

You used to show the ranking of conferences in the playoffs for several years, up-to-date.    I can not find it anymore.

Did you abandon it or am I just blind?

After this year's NCAA selections and yesterday's results, this data is more important than ever.    All conferences are NOT equal.

George

GO LINFIELD WILDCATS! GO!

[George Thompson]

NCAA
700 W. Washington Street
P.O. Box 6222
Indianapolis, Indiana 46206-6222

Division III
Football Playoff Selection Committee,


With all due respect, this playoff format needs major change.   The best 32 teams should be in, not just any champion from any conference.   Look at yesterday: four teams did NOT belong, with season records of 3, 4 and 5 losses each.    They lost by scores of 53-14, 57-7, 59-7 and 49-0.

Please allow me to make some recommendations of how future playoff teams should be selected.    The current system clearly does not select the best 32 teams in Division III.

•   This year four conference champions received bids with overall win ratios of only 70%, 60% and 50%.
   
•   At the same time, three teams with only one loss were not invited to the playoffs.     They would have been more competitive in the playoffs.

Foundation and Goals:  In my opinion, here should be the goals of the playoff selection:

1.   32 best teams selected.

2.   All conferences are NOT equal.

   3.   Pool B teams have an unfair advantage over Pool C teams.      Why should a champion from a weak Pool B conference be selected over a Pool C team with a better record in a tough conference?

   4.   Some conferences have historically shown strength against non-conference teams and in the playoffs.    The American Southwest Conference, Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference, Northwest Conference, Ohio Athletic Conference, Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference consistently produce extremely strong teams.    Their 2nd and 3rd best teams can beat conference champions from many weaker conferences.

Recommendations:

1.   Scrap the Pool B and Pool C concept entirely.

2.   Automatic invitations:
   A.   Conference champions from a conference with at least 7 teams, and,

   B.   Champion must achieve at least an 80% total win ratio during the entire season.

3.   At large invitations:
   A.   All other teams are eligible if they have at least a 70% win ratio in their total schedule.    Geographical location will have no consideration at all.

   B.   Selection is based on this criteria:
      (1)   Undefeated teams get first selections.
      (2)   One loss teams get second selections.
      (3)   Two loss teams get next selections.
      (4)   If needed, three loss teams are eligible for final spots.
      (5)   SOS can be used to for selections in groups (3) and (4) only         above.

      C.   Once all the teams are selected, teams will be placed in their own region for playoff games, if possible.

      D.   Each team selected will have at least one home game, as early as possible, in rounds two, three and four, unless they lose first.    Seedings of the 32 teams decides all other home games, including round one.   

These rules do not apply if a team can not meet the hosting standards of the NCAA.     

I am just a great fan of Division III football.    I hope the committee will take a serious look at the current  playoff format.

Thank you.

George Thompson

GO CATS! GO!

[wesleydad]

george, pool b teams do not get in by winning any conference, pool b is for teams that dont have an aq conference and independents.  there were only 3 this year and i believe it drops to 2 or 1 next year so pool b is not the issue.

[CrashDavisD3]

NCAA
700 W. Washington Street
P.O. Box 6222
Indianapolis, Indiana 46206-6222

Division III
Football Playoff Selection Committee,


With all due respect, this playoff format needs major change.   The best 32 teams should be in, not just any champion from any conference.   Look at yesterday: four teams did NOT belong, with season records of 3, 4 and 5 losses each.    They lost by scores of 53-14, 57-7, 59-7 and 49-0.

Please allow me to make some recommendations of how future playoff teams should be selected.    The current system clearly does not select the best 32 teams in Division III.

•   This year four conference champions received bids with overall win ratios of only 70%, 60% and 50%.
   
•   At the same time, three teams with only one loss were not invited to the playoffs.     They would have been more competitive in the playoffs.

Foundation and Goals:  In my opinion, here should be the goals of the playoff selection:

1.   32 best teams selected.

2.   All conferences are NOT equal.

   3.   Pool B teams have an unfair advantage over Pool C teams.      Why should a champion from a weak Pool B conference be selected over a Pool C team with a better record in a tough conference?

   4.   Some conferences have historically shown strength against non-conference teams and in the playoffs.    The American Southwest Conference, Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference, Northwest Conference, Ohio Athletic Conference, Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference consistently produce extremely strong teams.    Their 2nd and 3rd best teams can beat conference champions from many weaker conferences.

Recommendations:

1.   Scrap the Pool B and Pool C concept entirely.

2.   Automatic invitations:
   A.   Conference champions from a conference with at least 7 teams, and,

   B.   Champion must achieve at least an 80% total win ratio during the entire season.

3.   At large invitations:
   A.   All other teams are eligible if they have at least a 70% win ratio in their total schedule.    Geographical location will have no consideration at all.

   B.   Selection is based on this criteria:
      (1)   Undefeated teams get first selections.
      (2)   One loss teams get second selections.
      (3)   Two loss teams get next selections.
      (4)   If needed, three loss teams are eligible for final spots.
      (5)   SOS can be used to for selections in groups (3) and (4) only         above.

      C.   Once all the teams are selected, teams will be placed in their own region for playoff games, if possible.

      D.   Each team selected will have at least one home game, as early as possible, in rounds two, three and four, unless they lose first.    Seedings of the 32 teams decides all other home games, including round one.   

These rules do not apply if a team can not meet the hosting standards of the NCAA.     

I am just a great fan of Division III football.    I hope the committee will take a serious look at the current  playoff format.

Thank you.

George Thompson

GO CATS! GO!

Scrap Pool A,B,C process for all sports it don't work....Rewards weak Pool A, Pool B teams. Hurts stronger Pool C bid teams

[Toby Taff]

NCAA
700 W. Washington Street
P.O. Box 6222
Indianapolis, Indiana 46206-6222

Division III
Football Playoff Selection Committee,


With all due respect, this playoff format needs major change.   The best 32 teams should be in, not just any champion from any conference.   Look at yesterday: four teams did NOT belong, with season records of 3, 4 and 5 losses each.    They lost by scores of 53-14, 57-7, 59-7 and 49-0.

Please allow me to make some recommendations of how future playoff teams should be selected.    The current system clearly does not select the best 32 teams in Division III.

•   This year four conference champions received bids with overall win ratios of only 70%, 60% and 50%.
   
•   At the same time, three teams with only one loss were not invited to the playoffs.     They would have been more competitive in the playoffs.

Foundation and Goals:  In my opinion, here should be the goals of the playoff selection:

1.   32 best teams selected.

2.   All conferences are NOT equal.

   3.   Pool B teams have an unfair advantage over Pool C teams.      Why should a champion from a weak Pool B conference be selected over a Pool C team with a better record in a tough conference?

   4.   Some conferences have historically shown strength against non-conference teams and in the playoffs.    The American Southwest Conference, Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference, Northwest Conference, Ohio Athletic Conference, Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference consistently produce extremely strong teams.    Their 2nd and 3rd best teams can beat conference champions from many weaker conferences.

Recommendations:

1.   Scrap the Pool B and Pool C concept entirely.

2.   Automatic invitations:
   A.   Conference champions from a conference with at least 7 teams, and,

   B.   Champion must achieve at least an 80% total win ratio during the entire season.

3.   At large invitations:
   A.   All other teams are eligible if they have at least a 70% win ratio in their total schedule.    Geographical location will have no consideration at all.

   B.   Selection is based on this criteria:
      (1)   Undefeated teams get first selections.
      (2)   One loss teams get second selections.
      (3)   Two loss teams get next selections.
      (4)   If needed, three loss teams are eligible for final spots.
      (5)   SOS can be used to for selections in groups (3) and (4) only         above.

      C.   Once all the teams are selected, teams will be placed in their own region for playoff games, if possible.

      D.   Each team selected will have at least one home game, as early as possible, in rounds two, three and four, unless they lose first.    Seedings of the 32 teams decides all other home games, including round one.   

These rules do not apply if a team can not meet the hosting standards of the NCAA.     

I am just a great fan of Division III football.    I hope the committee will take a serious look at the current  playoff format.

Thank you.

George Thompson

GO CATS! GO!

Scrap Pool A,B,C process for all sports it don't work....Rewards weak Pool A, Pool B teams. Hurts stronger Pool C bid teams

I like the pool A.  It rewards teams that win their conference.  IF you're going to have conferences then you need the pool A bids. If you want to subjectively say "these are the best 32 in the land" then do it and call it something other than a national championship, because "national championship" suggests that all teams at least start with an equal shot.  That's why I hate the BCS.  It's why I love March madness.  You win the conference you get in, you don't you might get left out regardless of your merit.  CNU got crushed yesterday but they earned the right to be there.  The day D3 just "chooses the top 32"is the day I walk away from D3 football.