Official 2010 PLAYOFFS reaction thread

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MasterJedi

I'm pretty surprised at how high DePauw is too. I feel Trine is a much better team and should take it to them with a Wabash or above like score. Good luck Thunder!

Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 14, 2010, 04:50:21 PM
I wanna hear what UWW could of done differently this year to avoid a #2 seed.

Have a higher SoS? ;D ;)

I realize that it is not UWW's fault that no OOC, in-region teams will schedule them.  But St. Thomas and NCC ALSO went 10-0 - what more could THEY have done to get a #1 seeding?

raiderpa

Espn sucks.....time for the experts to take over,
Time for D3.com to do a live video stream program for all us  on selection Sunday with call in capability....what would it take??
could be a great two hour show....

02 Warhawk

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on November 14, 2010, 04:56:53 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 14, 2010, 04:50:21 PM
I wanna hear what UWW could of done differently this year to avoid a #2 seed.

Have a higher SoS? ;D ;)

I realize that it is not UWW's fault that no OOC, in-region teams will schedule them.  But St. Thomas and NCC ALSO went 10-0 - what more could THEY have done to get a #1 seeding?

STU: Irrelevant..they ARE a #1 seed

NCC: absolutely nothing.

I'm just curious how a 10-0 team in the best (rated) conference in DIII got a number 5 overall seed..essentially. And I don't want to hear about SOS, b/c like you said...everybody in the region refuses to schedule UWW.

Whitewater has always had a poor SOS...why is this year different?

AUPepBand

Pep was delighted to learn #6 seed Alfred will play #3 seed SUNY-Maritime...so delighted and thrilled that Pep failed to realize Alfred would HOST the Privateers (because SUNY-Maritime facilities are inadequate?).

Wow, it's Christmas in Mayberry! (Wondered why the Village had already placed the wreaths and bows on the lamp posts downtown).
On Saxon Warriors! On to Victory!
...Fight, fight for Alfred, A-L-F, R-E-D!

Mr. Ypsi

02, I have no idea why 2010 is different (except that apparently they decided to follow the published criteria more closely than before; why now?  Who knows.)

It is especially mystifying that they decided to do it the same year that the third regional rankings jumped UMU from #3 to #1 the same week that #2 NCC decisively beat #1 Wheaton.  Trying to find logic in the NCAA leads to madness. ;)

Look upon it as a gift.  UWW might have entered the playoffs a tad complacent and smug; now they enter p!ssed off - why are you complaining about that??!! :o ;D

Titan Q

Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 14, 2010, 05:21:35 PM
I'm just curious how a 10-0 team in the best (rated) conference in DIII got a number 5 overall seed..essentially. And I don't want to hear about SOS, b/c like you said...everybody in the region refuses to schedule UWW.

Here is the 2010 Handbook...

http://web1.ncaa.org/web_files/champ_handbooks/football/2010/10_3_football.pdf

1) On what page is the conference rating?

2) On what page is the explanation of how the conference rating is used to select and seed teams?

3) On what page is the explanation of how the committee should handle teams that can't find in-region non-conference games?

dahlby

Pep:

Good luck to your team. I hope they play at their highest level to support the guys on the field. Oh,
and good luck to your football team, too!

Plus K for good luck!!!

wasper68

Can anyone explain why W&L is lower than HSC when W&L beat them soundly during the regular season?

02 Warhawk

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on November 14, 2010, 05:29:51 PM
02, I have no idea why 2010 is different (except that apparently they decided to follow the published criteria more closely than before; why now?  Who knows.)

It is especially mystifying that they decided to do it the same year that the third regional rankings jumped UMU from #3 to #1 the same week that #2 NCC decisively beat #1 Wheaton.  Trying to find logic in the NCAA leads to madness. ;)

Look upon it as a gift.  UWW might have entered the playoffs a tad complacent and smug; now they enter p!ssed off - why are you complaining about that??!! :o ;D

I see your point...but I'd rather have the road to Salem go through UWW, than have bulletin board material posted up to get pissed off about.


02 Warhawk

Quote from: Titan Q on November 14, 2010, 05:30:29 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 14, 2010, 05:21:35 PM
I'm just curious how a 10-0 team in the best (rated) conference in DIII got a number 5 overall seed..essentially. And I don't want to hear about SOS, b/c like you said...everybody in the region refuses to schedule UWW.

Here is the 2010 Handbook...

http://web1.ncaa.org/web_files/champ_handbooks/football/2010/10_3_football.pdf

1) On what page is the conference rating?

2) On what page is the explanation of how the conference rating is used to select and seed teams?

3) On what page is the explanation of how the committee should handle teams that can't find in-region non-conference games?

that's kind of my point...too much number crunching ...not enough objectivity. remind you of a certain ranking system in D1?

Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 14, 2010, 05:51:21 PM
Quote from: Titan Q on November 14, 2010, 05:30:29 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 14, 2010, 05:21:35 PM
I'm just curious how a 10-0 team in the best (rated) conference in DIII got a number 5 overall seed..essentially. And I don't want to hear about SOS, b/c like you said...everybody in the region refuses to schedule UWW.

Here is the 2010 Handbook...

http://web1.ncaa.org/web_files/champ_handbooks/football/2010/10_3_football.pdf

1) On what page is the conference rating?

2) On what page is the explanation of how the conference rating is used to select and seed teams?

3) On what page is the explanation of how the committee should handle teams that can't find in-region non-conference games?

that's kind of my point...too much number crunching ...not enough objectivity. remind you of a certain ranking system in D1?

Again, you are misusing the term 'objectivity'.  The B(C)S is 2/3 human polls, and therefore much more subjective.  We have a playoff (!), selected and seeded by KNOWN criteria.  It is d3 which is too objective for your preference.  Subjectively virtually everyone (including me) believes UWW should be a #1 seed; the Warhawks fell short  on the objective part.

smedindy

I would prefer to have known algorithms than 'feel' about how teams perform, but the SOS isn't perfect.

Warhawks, win your games and there's nothing to complain about. Wabash didn't get in with the best SOS.

I think Wittenberg did something nefarious to the NCAA - like brought Natty Lite to the party and drank all of the Stella. DPU and Witt should be switched on that bracket.
Wabash Always Fights!

WittFan

Quote from: K-Mack on November 14, 2010, 04:17:29 PM
Quote from: oldtiger on November 14, 2010, 03:58:13 PMESPN's effort mirrored that of the selection committee.

I don't see how.

One did one of its best jobs in years, and the other did one of its worst.

Really? UW-W not a #1 seed? Depauw a #3 seed? These make sense to you?

labart96

We asked this question and several others to Dr. Solomen in our interview today that will appear on ITH around 8 PM ET.  Tune into www.inthehuddLLe.com if you want to hear the perspective of the Chair of the Committee that made these picks.