Official 2010 PLAYOFFS reaction thread

[BoBo]

If it wasn't completely obvious before, the committee's marching orders from the NCAA were to get new participants in Salem. Sending Mount and UWW on the road as much as possible is one of the only ways they might accomplish that. IMO, at the end of the day, Salem will be the same as it ever was - Mount/UWW, UWW/Mount anyway you want to look at it. Just gives more of the country an opportunity to see the Purple Powers up close and personal. Stagg Bowl 2010 - Mount will be in the black jerseys, UWW in white, if you're keeping score!!  You can take that one to the bank.

[CardinalAlum]

I'm just curious how a 10-0 team in the best (rated) conference in DIII got a number 5 overall seed..essentially. And I don't want to hear about SOS, b/c like you said...everybody in the region refuses to schedule UWW.

Here is the 2010 Handbook...

http://web1.ncaa.org/web_files/champ_handbooks/football/2010/10_3_football.pdf

1) On what page is the conference rating?

2) On what page is the explanation of how the conference rating is used to select and seed teams?

3) On what page is the explanation of how the committee should handle teams that can't find in-region non-conference games?

"Would you turn to the chapter that deals with code reds, please....".   

[hazzben]

I'm just curious how a 10-0 team in the best (rated) conference in DIII got a number 5 overall seed..essentially. And I don't want to hear about SOS, b/c like you said...everybody in the region refuses to schedule UWW.

Here is the 2010 Handbook...

http://web1.ncaa.org/web_files/champ_handbooks/football/2010/10_3_football.pdf

1) On what page is the conference rating?

2) On what page is the explanation of how the conference rating is used to select and seed teams?

3) On what page is the explanation of how the committee should handle teams that can't find in-region non-conference games?

that's kind of my point...too much number crunching ...not enough objectivity. remind you of a certain ranking system in D1?

I think you need to look up the definition of "objectivity"...

[smedindy]

If it wasn't completely obvious before, the committee's marching orders from the NCAA were to get new participants in Salem. Sending Mount and UWW on the road as much as possible is one of the only ways they might accomplish that. IMO, at the end of the day, Salem will be the same as it ever was - Mount/UWW, UWW/Mount anyway you want to look at it. Just gives more of the country an opportunity to see the Purple Powers up close and personal. Stagg Bowl 2010 - Mount will be in the black jerseys, UWW in white, if you're keeping score!!  You can take that one to the bank.

Well, I totally disagree with your first statement. There are no 'marching orders' - the committee this year didn't just automatically slot in "UWW" in a #1 seed. It is what it is. Win or go home. Period. Paragraph.

Winners don't complain where they play - they just win.

/I really hate seeding arguments

[DPU3619]

I'm pretty surprised at how high DePauw is too. I feel Trine is a much better team and should take it to them with a Wabash or above like score. Good luck Thunder!

[skunks_sidekick]

If it wasn't completely obvious before, the committee's marching orders from the NCAA were to get new participants in Salem. Sending Mount and UWW on the road as much as possible is one of the only ways they might accomplish that. IMO, at the end of the day, Salem will be the same as it ever was - Mount/UWW, UWW/Mount anyway you want to look at it. Just gives more of the country an opportunity to see the Purple Powers up close and personal. Stagg Bowl 2010 - Mount will be in the black jerseys, UWW in white, if you're keeping score!!  You can take that one to the bank.

Well, I totally disagree with your first statement. There are no 'marching orders' - the committee this year didn't just automatically slot in "UWW" in a #1 seed. It is what it is. Win or go home. Period. Paragraph.

Winners don't complain where they play - they just win.

/I really hate seeding arguments

Yah Smeds...and we all know UWW hasn't proven they are winners, hence their complaining.   

[DPUBro]

The single most surprising seed to me was DePauw #3 in the NCC bracket, over also 9-1 (but far more impressive) #4 ONU, undefeated #5 Witt (whose point differential against Wabash vis-a-vis DePauw was SIXTY-FOUR points, separated by only ONE week)), and undefeated #6 Trine.

Perhaps the selection committee didn't hear the Monon Bell result?!

SOS ratings:

DePauw:39th
ONU:147th
Witt:175
Trine:202

Perhaps the selection committee looked at the whole season and not just the Monon Bell game?!?!

[BoBo]

I'm just curious how a 10-0 team in the best (rated) conference in DIII got a number 5 overall seed..essentially. And I don't want to hear about SOS, b/c like you said...everybody in the region refuses to schedule UWW.

Here is the 2010 Handbook...

http://web1.ncaa.org/web_files/champ_handbooks/football/2010/10_3_football.pdf

1) On what page is the conference rating?

2) On what page is the explanation of how the conference rating is used to select and seed teams?

3) On what page is the explanation of how the committee should handle teams that can't find in-region non-conference games?

"Would you turn to the chapter that deals with code reds, please....".   

Nice CardinalAlum +k!!

[BoBo]

/I really hate seeding arguments

Yes, there were far fewer arguments when they didn't seed.  

[HScoach]

I don't care what DePauw's SoS numbers say, there's no way a team that got beat 47-0 by the 2nd place team in the NCAC gets a #3 seed.  I'd overlook a loss to a 2nd place WIAC, OAC or CCIW team, but a butt-kicking to a NCAC team is a bad, BAD loss.

I'm shocked by the number 1 seeds too, but understand exactly how the committee selected them.  And honestly kind of like that they went outside the norm.  Similar to the first year that they sent Mount to the east.  They took a new approach to the bracket and didn't worry about the names of the schools. 

I think it's a good sign that 99% of the pissing is about the seeds, not who made it.  Regardless of the seedings, the most important thing is to make the field.

And for those saying the committee purposely set it up to avoid another UWW / MTU championship, I think that's way off base.  If they were concerned about that, they'd have paired the East and North regions together in the Semi's. 

[Mr. Ypsi]

If it wasn't completely obvious before, the committee's marching orders from the NCAA were to get new participants in Salem. Sending Mount and UWW on the road as much as possible is one of the only ways they might accomplish that. IMO, at the end of the day, Salem will be the same as it ever was - Mount/UWW, UWW/Mount anyway you want to look at it. Just gives more of the country an opportunity to see the Purple Powers up close and personal. Stagg Bowl 2010 - Mount will be in the black jerseys, UWW in white, if you're keeping score!!  You can take that one to the bank.

Well, I totally disagree with your first statement. There are no 'marching orders' - the committee this year didn't just automatically slot in "UWW" in a #1 seed. It is what it is. Win or go home. Period. Paragraph.

Winners don't complain where they play - they just win.

/I really hate seeding arguments

Yah Smeds...and we all know UWW hasn't proven they are winners, hence their complaining.   

Last year is not in the criteria.  What have they done THIS year to deserve a #1 any more than what 10-0 St. Thomas or 10-0 NCC have done?

Like most on here, I was shocked that UWW did not get a #1, but by the criteria I wonder how you can be complaining so much?  They got a gift!  They might have come in somewhat smug and complacent, now they come in pissed off!

[HScoach]

Forgot to say that the real surprise in the #1 seeds is St Thomas getting the West and making Whitewater ship to the North.  I'm comfortable with NCC getting a #1.  And I think Mount and Wesley are slam dunks in the East and South.  But the West is curious.

[Titan Q]

I'm just curious how a 10-0 team in the best (rated) conference in DIII got a number 5 overall seed..essentially. And I don't want to hear about SOS, b/c like you said...everybody in the region refuses to schedule UWW.

Here is the 2010 Handbook...

http://web1.ncaa.org/web_files/champ_handbooks/football/2010/10_3_football.pdf

1) On what page is the conference rating?

2) On what page is the explanation of how the conference rating is used to select and seed teams?

3) On what page is the explanation of how the committee should handle teams that can't find in-region non-conference games?

"Would you turn to the chapter that deals with code reds, please....".   

I kid you not - when I posted that I looked for that exact scene on Youtube.

[02 Warhawk]

If it wasn't completely obvious before, the committee's marching orders from the NCAA were to get new participants in Salem. Sending Mount and UWW on the road as much as possible is one of the only ways they might accomplish that. IMO, at the end of the day, Salem will be the same as it ever was - Mount/UWW, UWW/Mount anyway you want to look at it. Just gives more of the country an opportunity to see the Purple Powers up close and personal. Stagg Bowl 2010 - Mount will be in the black jerseys, UWW in white, if you're keeping score!!  You can take that one to the bank.

Well, I totally disagree with your first statement. There are no 'marching orders' - the committee this year didn't just automatically slot in "UWW" in a #1 seed. It is what it is. Win or go home. Period. Paragraph.

Winners don't complain where they play - they just win.

/I really hate seeding arguments

Yah Smeds...and we all know UWW hasn't proven they are winners, hence their complaining.   

Last year is not in the criteria.  What have they done THIS year to deserve a #1 any more than what 10-0 St. Thomas or 10-0 NCC have done?

Like most on here, I was shocked that UWW did not get a #1, but by the criteria I wonder how you can be complaining so much?  They got a gift!  They might have come in somewhat smug and complacent, now they come in pissed off!

B/c the criteria was the same as last year, and UWW and MUC still finished one and two overall in the playoffs. so you can forgive us UWW and MUC fans if were a little shocked on the committee's change of heart. Especially sense UWW and MUC had very similar seasons to last year.

[PA_wesleyfan]

 The comittee avoids first round rematches if possible correct!!
In the scheme of things I don't think it matters much if CNU or Muhlenberg are 7th or 8th except maybe to their fans . The Mules SOS was twice as good as CNU's and their conference looks stronger. Just wondered what the comittees reasoning would be. I think the Mules fans will travel well to Wesley, 2 1/2 hr trip,  so there should be a huge crowd for the game