Official 2010 PLAYOFFS reaction thread

[wesleydad]

hscoach, i would agree with the #1's, just maybe not the placement.  i would have uwww, mount, wesley, ncc.  being biased here as i dont want to have to think about going to uwww to see a game, would have to fly, can make the drive to alliance.   

[wally_wabash]

The only major issues I have with the NCAA's bracket is St Thomas getting a #1 before Whitewater and DePauw (9-1) being a #3 seed when Wabash smoked them and Wittenberg (10-0) beat Wabash but is only #5 seed and therefore on the road.  Those are the 2 seedings that stand out for me. 

If I can add to that, I was curious how Cal. Lutheran wasn't able to host their game against Linfield...espeically when CLU beat them earlier in the year.

I agree with you on DePuaw being ranked too high AND I don't know how they pulled off being able to host an undefeated Trine team. It seems like Wittenberg and DePauw should swap their places in the bracket. With Witt hosting Trine, and Ohion N. hosting DePauw.

CLU is actually seeded higher but can not host because their facility doesn't meet the NCAA championship standard (believe they are in the midst of rennovating).  Unfortunate break, but this kind of thing has happened before in the tournament. 

DePauw seeded where they are is curious.  Makes you wonder how high up on that board they were before Saturday's result. 

[02 Warhawk]

The only major issues I have with the NCAA's bracket is St Thomas getting a #1 before Whitewater and DePauw (9-1) being a #3 seed when Wabash smoked them and Wittenberg (10-0) beat Wabash but is only #5 seed and therefore on the road.  Those are the 2 seedings that stand out for me.  

If I can add to that, I was curious how Cal. Lutheran wasn't able to host their game against Linfield...espeically when CLU beat them earlier in the year.

I agree with you on DePuaw being ranked too high AND I don't know how they pulled off being able to host an undefeated Trine team. It seems like Wittenberg and DePauw should swap their places in the bracket. With Witt hosting Trine, and Ohion N. hosting DePauw.

CLU is actually seeded higher but can not host because their facility doesn't meet the NCAA championship standard (believe they are in the midst of rennovating).  Unfortunate break, but this kind of thing has happened before in the tournament.  

DePauw seeded where they are is curious.  Makes you wonder how high up on that board they were before Saturday's result.  

That makes sense about CLU, but that does suck. However, the CLU faithful on their board still think they should of hosted.

As far as DePauw, before they lost, the committee probably would of put UWW #3 and DePuaw #2      

[usee]

CLU can't host because their facilities aren't up to snuff. They are doing a scrape off/rebuild this offseason.

[ncc_fan]

CLU can't host because their facilities aren't up to snuff. They are doing a scrape off/rebuild this offseason.

Didn't Franklin have a similar situation in 2008, but was able to host their 3rd round game (vs. Wheaton) at a nearby high school?

[MonroviaCat]

CLU can't host because their facilities aren't up to snuff. They are doing a scrape off/rebuild this offseason.

I believe they are actually building a whole new stadium at a different location on Campus....nonethless....their current facility is not up to snuff.

[usee]

CLU can't host because their facilities aren't up to snuff. They are doing a scrape off/rebuild this offseason.

Didn't Franklin have a similar situation in 2008, but was able to host their 3rd round game (vs. Wheaton) at a nearby high school?

The Franklin situation was different. They had used their field in a rainstorm and it was torn up so much it was unplayable so the NCAA let them use a nearby HS for the game.

[K-Mack]

Pretty much every question asked on this thread is answered in the latest Around the Nation. It is a lot, but I promise it's explained in there.

I drew on the discussion here and on the Daily Dose for the beginning part, then also there's our usual bracket reactions and then our Surprises and Disappointments picks.

If you read the entire thing you will know why W&L and Witt are seeded lower than H-SC and DePauw (even if you don't agree), you should understand why UW-W didn't get a No. 1 and how Rowan, PLU and Redlands could get left home.

Also why SUNY-M and CLU are on the road ... although I see that's been addressed above

In other words, you might have found all these answers, but now they're grouped in one place.

[WittFan]

Great ATN Keith. Very well thought out. Thank you for taking the time to put it together.

I agree with pretty much all of your thoughts, but I'm still struggling with your denfense of SoS. Your argument that using SoS encourages scheduling harder teams. is compelling, but only if you assume teams can deliberately and significantly influence their strength of schedule. I just don't see how you can make that assumption, especially for the many teams in Division III who can only schedule one discretionary game per season. An increase in one opponent, no matter how drastic, just isn't going to move the needle that much.

How much influence are you assuming teams have over their SoS?

[PA_wesleyfan]

 Wesley was a higher seeded team against Trinity TX in 2000 and had to travel because of the field condition and seating were not up to NCAA standards... As it turned out they went to Texas and played in a swamp caused by torrential rains... I felt then and still feel that a team should be afforded the opportunity to get a field within a reasonable distance from there home field.

[ncc_fan]

CLU can't host because their facilities aren't up to snuff. They are doing a scrape off/rebuild this offseason.

Didn't Franklin have a similar situation in 2008, but was able to host their 3rd round game (vs. Wheaton) at a nearby high school?

The Franklin situation was different. They had used their field in a rainstorm and it was torn up so much it was unplayable so the NCAA let them use a nearby HS for the game.

So why couldn't CLU host at a So. Cal. high school field?  I don't see the difference in the CLU and Franklin situations.  Both had sub-standard on-campus facilities. 

[usee]

This CCIW fan is hoping for 2 NCC wins, 2 Wheaton wins and  Linfield win over UST. That would mean 2 regional finals played within 7 miles of each other. Has to be a first! 

[Pat Coleman]

CLU can't host because their facilities aren't up to snuff. They are doing a scrape off/rebuild this offseason.

Didn't Franklin have a similar situation in 2008, but was able to host their 3rd round game (vs. Wheaton) at a nearby high school?

The Franklin situation was different. They had used their field in a rainstorm and it was torn up so much it was unplayable so the NCAA let them use a nearby HS for the game.

So why couldn't CLU host at a So. Cal. high school field?  I don't see the difference in the CLU and Franklin situations.  Both had sub-standard on-campus facilities. 

The difference is Franklin had a field that was usable, and in fact, started the playoffs on that field, if you recall, before a playoff game tore it up.

Similarly Linfield back in the early part of the decade was allowed to host a playoff game at Willamette and Brockport State a game at Rochester when their field took a beating from an early round playoff game.

Cal Lutheran didn't have a viable field of its own to begin with. And you can't go into the playoffs hoping to host at a field you've never played at.

[CrashDavisD3]

CLU can't host because their facilities aren't up to snuff. They are doing a scrape off/rebuild this offseason.

Didn't Franklin have a similar situation in 2008, but was able to host their 3rd round game (vs. Wheaton) at a nearby high school?

The Franklin situation was different. They had used their field in a rainstorm and it was torn up so much it was unplayable so the NCAA let them use a nearby HS for the game.

So why couldn't CLU host at a So. Cal. high school field?  I don't see the difference in the CLU and Franklin situations.  Both had sub-standard on-campus facilities. 

The difference is Franklin had a field that was usable, and in fact, started the playoffs on that field, if you recall, before a playoff game tore it up.

Similarly Linfield back in the early part of the decade was allowed to host a playoff game at Willamette and Brockport State a game at Rochester when their field took a beating from an early round playoff game.

Cal Lutheran didn't have a viable field of its own to begin with. And you can't go into the playoffs hoping to host at a field you've never played at.

WHY ??
There are 2 nice turf fields not far from Cal Lu's campus, Westlake High School, and Moorpark Junior College.

In other sports playoffs are not always held at on campus school fields why does the NCAA require this for football....IMO Ridiculous....like many of the NCAA rules....Inconsistent as usual rather than take the logical
choice....

[Pat Coleman]

CLU can't host because their facilities aren't up to snuff. They are doing a scrape off/rebuild this offseason.

Didn't Franklin have a similar situation in 2008, but was able to host their 3rd round game (vs. Wheaton) at a nearby high school?

The Franklin situation was different. They had used their field in a rainstorm and it was torn up so much it was unplayable so the NCAA let them use a nearby HS for the game.

So why couldn't CLU host at a So. Cal. high school field?  I don't see the difference in the CLU and Franklin situations.  Both had sub-standard on-campus facilities. 

The difference is Franklin had a field that was usable, and in fact, started the playoffs on that field, if you recall, before a playoff game tore it up.

Similarly Linfield back in the early part of the decade was allowed to host a playoff game at Willamette and Brockport State a game at Rochester when their field took a beating from an early round playoff game.

Cal Lutheran didn't have a viable field of its own to begin with. And you can't go into the playoffs hoping to host at a field you've never played at.

WHY ??
There are 2 nice turf fields not far from Cal Lu's campus, Westlake High School, and Moorpark Junior College.

In other sports playoffs are not always held at on campus school fields why does the NCAA require this for football....IMO Ridiculous....like many of the NCAA rules....Inconsistent as usual rather than take the logical
choice....

NCAA rules -- not sure what else I can tell you but you cannot host a playoff game at a place where you have played less than half of your regular season home games.

It doesn't have to be on campus, but it must be your home field.