MBB: Northwest Conference

[LogShow]

If you ever have a chance to come watch your team play @UPS, I would really recommend it.  LC will be a huge game in Tacoma at the end of the season.  Memorial Field House gets rocking with lots of energy, and its a great place to watch a game

[pineconefan]

Wow, that's really, really funny.  L&C fans calling ANY Whitworth crowd weak.  If you are referring to last season's conference championship game, the only section of bleachers that was not full was the visitors section right behind the Pioneer bench.

Now, I admire you for making the trip all the way to Spokane to see your team lose, and I remember your group trying hard.  But as much noise as the rest of the Whitworth crowd?  Must be a creative arts major...

And having been to Pamplin four times over the last 15 years, L&C has ALWAYS had the worst fan turnout for the quality of program.  Saturday's Whitworth crowd was really weak by normal standards (400-500), but still more than I've ever seen at Pamplin, including a couple of games that decided NWC championships.  What's the point of having a big set of bleachers when they are never more than 25% full?

Logshow, the UPS community really got behind the Loggers when Bridgland got that program going.  But I remember seeing games when that Field House was dead back in the late 90s.

[UPSoundLogs]

I can only speak for the last 5 years or so, but in that time span its no contest to who has the toughest home court...UPS obviously .  Biggest crowds, best teams, best record.  Done and done.  (once again this is only for the last 5 years)

The race for the first loser looks a little something like this...

2)WW They've always had large crowds when I've been there.  Some of the fans get pretty creative too.  I've always enjoyed the WW atmosphere and they always have very good teams.

3)WU Very tough place to play.  The crowds aren't that big but the drawbridge baskets and rims dont make it easy, plus they almost always have one of the top teams in the NWC.

4)Probably LC, they have kind of a wierd gym with weird lighting.  Not many fans, but almost always tough teams.  Not a fun place to play.

5)NO gym is easy to play in, the road trips are tough in the NWC.  No other gym really stands out as next toughest so I will just say that the rest are all tough places to play.  (It would be Whitman, but their teams are always in the basement)

LC fans-
Dont get too down on your boys, they are a tough team and deserve a chance to get accustomed to playing with that target on their backs.  Let me tell you, it aint easy. 

Last but not least, UPS seems to be happy with just winning right now.  Although they have a nice record and are playing pretty well they are capable of much more.  Dont get me wrong, I'm excited that they are once again a dominant team, but I believe they can throw it in another gear.  If and when that happens...WATCH OUT NWC 8)!!!

[UPSoundLogs]

Also, when are we gonna get some PLU backers on this board.  If they dont get a couple posters in the next few weeks I'm going to have to start speaking for them I guess....on second thought probably not.  But still, PLU is SICK this year(and this is coming from a UPS guy) where are the fans at

[LogShow]

I too am suprised there haven't been any PLU posters poking their head out yet...especially since they have started conference so strong.

[Pio20]

Wow, that's really, really funny.  L&C fans calling ANY Whitworth crowd weak.  If you are referring to last season's conference championship game, the only section of bleachers that was not full was the visitors section right behind the Pioneer bench.

Now, I admire you for making the trip all the way to Spokane to see your team lose, and I remember your group trying hard.  But as much noise as the rest of the Whitworth crowd?  Must be a creative arts major...

And having been to Pamplin four times over the last 15 years, L&C has ALWAYS had the worst fan turnout for the quality of program.  Saturday's Whitworth crowd was really weak by normal standards (400-500), but still more than I've ever seen at Pamplin, including a couple of games that decided NWC championships.  What's the point of having a big set of bleachers when they are never more than 25% full?

All I can seem to remember is the great Bryan Williams missing quite a few free throws as we yelled "pickleball" at him. Maybe the 6 of us didn't quite equal the level of noise that the 500 + WW fans did, but we were definitely more into it. After all, we drove six hours to see the game. All WW fans had to do was tell their fiancees they would be back in two hours and then walk ten minutes to the gym.

As for the LC crowd being weak, these pictures sure seem like more than 25% of the bleachers are full. Of course I'm no math expert, just a Studio Art major   
http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y153/hhfranks/?action=view&current=bball.jpg
http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y153/hhfranks/?action=view&current=bball-1.jpg

[nwhoops1903]

I would have to go with Pinecone on the toughest places to play chart..wouldn't say it any differently, especially the GF homecoming..bravo.

Also, I agree that this weekend will be very key in determining WW's chances in conf. this year.  I am not counting on a genie or any other wishes and kisses, just a solid effort by WW, especially Symes who did not play well last year at UPS.  I do wish however, we had UPS Friday.  If we lose to PLU (which we won't) on Friday, winning on Sat would be 2x more difficult.  WW will come prepared and expecting to win both.  And I will see you all there both nights.

[LCPios07]

Wow...didn't mean to get the WW folks all riled up. I am an '07 grad, so can't speak for the 90's, and readily admit my first 3 years we had mediocre teams and the gym was nearly empty. But last season I thought we had strong student support, especially toward the end of the year. LC will never get community support like other teams in the NWC, because there are a lot of things to do in Portland and LC athletics is not high up on most people's list, but as far as students go there was definitely more than 25% attendance last season. Hopefully that will last, but to be honest, it is probably dependent on having winning teams.

[nwhoops1903]

Pio I wouldn't advertise that ridiculously small gym on this site..A recruit might see it and end up at UPS or WW.  At least UPS's small house has some style, PLU has the giganto drape, GF is hardwood city, every gym has its own character its the fans that make the difference (and clock operator).

[Pio20]

Pio I wouldn't advertise that ridiculously small gym on this site..A recruit might see it and end up at UPS or WW.  At least UPS's small house has some style, PLU has the giganto drape, GF is hardwood city, every gym has its own character its the fans that make the difference (and clock operator).

Or a recruit might read your comments and think there are only stuck-up assholes at Whitworth and choose any school but that. You are correct that our gym isn't anything special. It is the "fans that make the difference." That was the point of my last post, but you were too busy thinking of a way to take a shot at any non-WW fan to realize that.

[UPSoundLogs]

"Pio I wouldn't advertise that ridiculously small gym on this site..A recruit might see it and end up at UPS or WW."
-nwhoops1903

NWC arena capacities as shown on D3 hoops website(yes, I realize the numbers may be off)

UPS- 4000
PLU-3200
GFox- 2750
WU-2600
Pac- 2500
LC-2300
Lin-1900
WW-1620
Whitman-(not shown)

If recruits do indeed choose what school they attend by the number of people that can fit in the gym...WW is in trouble.

...I'm just saying

And just for the record, those pics that Pio20 posted looked pretty impressive to me....that gym looked packed!!!  Were those from when UPS played there last season?

[wildcat11]

Winning also drums up support which leads to tougher crowds.  When Linfield had a good run early in the decade, I don't think many visitors like playing at Linfield's Wilson Gym.  Those crowds were rowdy/wild. 

GFU can draw large crowds but their fans are about as intimidating as a 4-year old on a set of big wheels. 

[LogShow]

Pio20, I wouldn't let Hoops1903 get you riled up, often his posts seem to attempt to ruffle feathers

[Pio20]

And just for the record, those pics that Pio20 posted looked pretty impressive to me....that gym looked packed!!!  Were those from when UPS played there last season?

Yeah it was from the conference playoff game when UPS came into Pamplin to decide who would travel to Whitworth for the title. It was packed and definitely the biggest crowd of the season. I'm not saying we pull those numbers every single game, but I think the "empty gym" days are over, at least while LC is winning and admissions keeps bringing in more "preppy" students who will, in general, care more about sports than your average LC hippie.

[Pio20]

Pio20, I wouldn't let Hoops1903 get you riled up, often his posts seem to attempt to ruffle feathers

haha..well I guess he ruffled mine. I'm all for a hearty well-thought out argument, but his posts seem to have different motives. At least the board is lively just like conference play!