MBB: Northwest Conference

[logshock101]

Two teams in the tournament would be great, but history is working against us and they would probably be matched up against each other.  That would be a shame, because the NWC is a very good conference, and has been for the last several years.  But as sages would say, you have to earn respect.

You would think having a NWC team make it to the sweet 16 the past 5 years (especially while having only one team in the tourney) might earn some respect. i know everybodys argument against this is that we've had a 1st round bye every year, but only sometimes it was because of location, the other times it was earned. and 5-0 in round number 2 against "better teams" is pretty good

[logshock101]

new top 25 is up

ups #12
Whitworth #24

huge weekend coming up, a logger win will not only knock WW out of the rankings, but open up a 2 game lead over the defending champs. but who knows anything can, happen especially in spokane

[Gregory Sager]

And, while money has always been the deciding factor come West coast tourney entries, this season has shown a lot of love for the NWC in the d3 poll.

Two teams in the tournament would be great, but history is working against us and they would probably be matched up against each other.  That would be a shame, because the NWC is a very good conference, and has been for the last several years.  But as sages would say, you have to earn respect.

You would think having a NWC team make it to the sweet 16 the past 5 years (especially while having only one team in the tourney) might earn some respect. i know everybodys argument against this is that we've had a 1st round bye every year, but only sometimes it was because of location, the other times it was earned. and 5-0 in round number 2 against "better teams" is pretty good

Guys, remember that none of these things -- history, respect, money, or the d3hoops.com poll -- dictate who gets into the tournament and who doesn't. The D3 selection committee operates according to a well-defined formula in terms of picking Pool C (at-large) teams.

[logshock101]

And, while money has always been the deciding factor come West coast tourney entries, this season has shown a lot of love for the NWC in the d3 poll.

Two teams in the tournament would be great, but history is working against us and they would probably be matched up against each other.  That would be a shame, because the NWC is a very good conference, and has been for the last several years.  But as sages would say, you have to earn respect.

You would think having a NWC team make it to the sweet 16 the past 5 years (especially while having only one team in the tourney) might earn some respect. i know everybodys argument against this is that we've had a 1st round bye every year, but only sometimes it was because of location, the other times it was earned. and 5-0 in round number 2 against "better teams" is pretty good

Guys, remember that none of these things -- history, respect, money, or the d3hoops.com poll -- dictate who gets into the tournament and who doesn't. The D3 selection committee operates according to a well-defined formula in terms of picking Pool C (at-large) teams.

we know, but sometimes a little complaing can make you feel a lot better 

[Gregory Sager]

we know, but sometimes a little complaing can make you feel a lot better 

I can identify with that.

[LogShow]

Way to go Logs #12...thats great!  Huge weekend for them...

[LogShow]

Two games on the docket tonight, only one being a conference game.

Pacific plays at GFU

and Linfield will finally get their make-up game in against Seattle U.


This is the battle of the beatens...I think even though GFU has home court, Pacific will finally get a tally in the win column.  Pac by 7      67-60.

Linfield will probably have a real difficult time with Seattle U.  I think I will set the over under at 23.5.  Any takers 

[Bearcat Press]

Two games on the docket tonight, only one being a conference game.

Pacific plays at GFU

and Linfield will finally get their make-up game in against Seattle U.


This is the battle of the beatens...I think even though GFU has home court, Pacific will finally get a tally in the win column.  Pac by 7      67-60.

Linfield will probably have a real difficult time with Seattle U.  I think I will set the over under at 23.5.  Any takers 

Having personally seen Seattle U lose 71-67 to a pretty good University of Portland team (that beat Linfield by 58 ), I'll take the over.

[LogShow]

Linfield took a whooping tonight...40-85. yikes!

[LogShow]

Two games on the docket tonight, only one being a conference game.

Pacific plays at GFU

and Linfield will finally get their make-up game in against Seattle U.


This is the battle of the beatens...I think even though GFU has home court, Pacific will finally get a tally in the win column.  Pac by 7      67-60.

Linfield will probably have a real difficult time with Seattle U.  I think I will set the over under at 23.5.  Any takers 

Having personally seen Seattle U lose 71-67 to a pretty good University of Portland team (that beat Linfield by 58 ), I'll take the over.

so the line was a little low...lol.  But I guess I gotta pay up.  +1 karma for you.

[Pio20]

Guys, remember that none of these things -- history, respect, money, or the d3hoops.com poll -- dictate who gets into the tournament and who doesn't. The D3 selection committee operates according to a well-defined formula in terms of picking Pool C (at-large) teams.

I think rather than just one thing dictating who gets in the tournament, they all do..history, respect, money, and a well-defined formula.

[Pio20]

Is UPS really the 12th best team in the country?

[Gregory Sager]

Guys, remember that none of these things -- history, respect, money, or the d3hoops.com poll -- dictate who gets into the tournament and who doesn't. The D3 selection committee operates according to a well-defined formula in terms of picking Pool C (at-large) teams.

I think rather than just one thing dictating who gets in the tournament, they all do..history, respect, money, and a well-defined formula.

No, they really don't. The criteria are all very clearly laid out in the NCAA D3 men's basketball championship handbook, which can be downloaded from the NCAA site. History, respect, and money don't enter into it at all. The five primary criteria used by the selection committee to choose Pool C teams are: 1) won-lost percentage in regional games; 2) head-to-head record between Pool C candidates; 3) record vs. common opponents among Pool C candidates; 4) won-lost percentage in regional games against regionally-ranked opponents; and 5) strength of schedule in regional games (which is a combination of opponents' regional winning percentage and opponents' opponents' regional winning percentage).

Where money (or the lack of it) enters into the process is in seeding, not selection. Because the D3 tourney is run on the cheap, the committee tries to save airfare costs wherever possible -- and that means that the NWC and SCIAC teams are inevitably paired up in the first two rounds, with little or no chance of hosting a sectional (the Puget Sound sectional of '04 being the conspicuous exception -- and even that was caused by scheduling conflicts in Wisconsin).

[LogShow]

Is UPS really the 12th best team in the country?

I think they are...they are playing some real defense this year.  Only giving up 19 points in the 2nd half to PLU, that's not like any UPS team I have seen in quite some time.  Their only two losses have come against Saint Martins and Warner Pac.

Why do you think they don't deserve it?

[Pio20]

Is UPS really the 12th best team in the country?

I think they are...they are playing some real defense this year.  Only giving up 19 points in the 2nd half to PLU, that's not like any UPS team I have seen in quite some time.  Their only two losses have come against Saint Martins and Warner Pac.

Why do you think they don't deserve it?

No I'm not saying they don't deserve it all. I have not seen them in person yet this year so I was just wondering what others thought. I guess what got me thinking is how Whitworth lost one conference game and dropped all the way to the bottom of the poll.