MBB: Northwest Conference

blackhawks4 · February 16, 2006, 05:40:38 PM

Hard to be upset or argue about regional rankings when loggers get slaughtered by 30 in spokane. Doesn't matter...all it comes down to is this weekend. Bearcats...what should i expect from wu? you saw last game. You guys run the flex at all or slow it down and force the loggers to guard in half court for extended period of time? hope you guys make it down...dont bring too many though

nwhoops1903 · February 17, 2006, 03:11:40 AM

Shame that the best team in conference isn't playing Friday night.

Loser of the game falls to third in conference, winner gets to hope the loser upsets WW at WW.

What a country, I mean conference.

WW looks to have come together as a team and is playing with confidence.

Just to explain what i see....

9 game win streak in conference looking at 10 after Sat, a win at WU that WU knew they needed, a destruction of (no 3's no way) UPS at home. No one wants to face Pirates right now.

Good luck to the winner and loser of Fridays game in conference tourney, they will need it.

SpooH SreggoL · February 17, 2006, 10:10:10 AM

Tie-breakers? I thought we had this figured out. The Tribune seems to think that a UPS/Whitworth tie would go in favor of the Loggers . . .

http://www.thenewstribune.com/sports/colleges/ups/story/5531613p-4981877c.html

SpooH SreggoL · February 17, 2006, 10:21:36 AM

Based on the conference tie-breaking procedures, I've got to believe the TNT is wrong . . .

http://www.nwcsports.com/information/governance/bkbprocedures8-05.pdf

Grutte Dirk · February 17, 2006, 10:23:47 AM

Is there a forum that discusses Northwest Conference sports not found on D3sports.com?

bearcatsfan3 · February 17, 2006, 11:22:47 AM

WU's website also states that the loser of this game, UPS or Willamette, will fall behind WW, as they hold the 2-0 sweep of the Bearcats, and are 3-1 vs. the other two, while UPS would be just 1-3 if they fall at home tonight...

BHawks, I don't see the Bearcats running much flex...in the last game they broke the press, got a lot of easy baskets, and spread UPS out in the half court...the 2nd half was much more difficult to score, as WU got a bit conservative, and UPS was very effective in the half court with their pressure...I think WU will have to take lay-ups when they're there...Whitworth didn't seem to pull back too much in their attacking of UPS pressure, and WU should follow the blueprint...that being said, UPS is bound to shoot better at home, so I think the score will be a little higher than last time. Bearcats 84, Loggers 80.

I doubt WU or UPS are "shaking in their boots" at the thought of the Pirates Mr. 1903...respect the way their playing, of course, but I'd imagine both teams would love another crack at Coach Hayford's team...

bbaddict · February 17, 2006, 01:09:37 PM

Quote from: nwhoops1903 on February 17, 2006, 03:11:40 AM
Shame that the best team in conference isn't playing Friday night.

Strictly based on W/L for the season, the best TWO teams in NWC are playing Friday night -- each other. You can bet that Hayford (& maybe some of the team) will be there watching. Just like Bridgeland & the gang was in Portland on February 4th at the games.

I think I agree with Spooh on the tie breaker thing. Wow - that must be what's causing this Arctic freeze thing!! Whoever loses tonight will be playing in Spokane, assuming that Whitworth wins at Pacific. (Not always easy unless you bring your night goggles.) Whitworth is not impossible to beat at home -- I remember George Fox beating them in the Fieldhouse & that was when Fox lived at the bottom of the conference.

So -- it's all over but the shouting -- or the crying!

bbaddict · February 17, 2006, 01:10:15 PM

Sorry I goofed that up -- chalk it up on being a newbie!!

blackhawks4 · February 18, 2006, 01:34:25 AM

Sorry bearcatsfan...I was off by 5 on my prediction. Loggers by 25 tonight. Quite the tank job huh? I'll tell you this much, not only are we better, but as muhammed ali would say...we're prettier!!!!!! Good lord.

I'm really done being polite and chummy on the board. Curtiss embarrased Olinger tonight (they went head up all night). I almost felt bad for John. Curtiss torched him. Olinger for COTY?

Get outta here. i don't even wanna hear it.

Loggers win conference! Again...Go ahead, haters, give your COTY to James. I don't wanna hear it...Loggers 3 straight NWC championships, but bridgeland gets what 1 nwc coty? He built this program in what, 5 years? Gordie's only been there for 80 years. But he does more with less talent. Go get some talent. There's more to a season than october through march...oh wait nobody else in the nwc ever plays in march...i mean february

And give your poty to pecht... Skip we all know you don't like curtiss. i would imagine hayford through his vote away (which he should if he's lookin out for his boy). harshman hasn't done anything at plu so im sure he threw his to pecht to downplay the success of ups.

Its fine..everybody did it last year right??? George fox! Don't give curtiss or bridgeland the respect they deserve. But i guarantee you i'll be the one on the board talkin' in a week. I don't care how hot ww is.

Bandwagon boys... i don't wanna hear your guarantees or your "mark my word"...because i will, and you won't respond next saturady night, when i'm here talkin about the loggers and the tourney.

You get the loggers at home and your in trouble.

Curtiss a streaky shooter??? Don't wanna hear it. He's a scorer. Haven't seen stats, but how many 3's did he shoot tonight. SCORER, producer, leader.

Props to coach James...wow, every year seems to do a lot with what he's got.

Crowd was pretty good, down a little form the past. Best chant..."John needs a shower."

You know, I said all along i disliked the conference tournamnet. This year though, with ww turning it on so late...I think it's great! Let's get ww out here, and let's have a battle for the automatic bid to the big dance! Shoot, let's have the best team from the nwc go....I know the loggers already proved they were the best through a 16 game season, but you know what, the pirates are hot, and im all for a little competition...Let's see who the best in the nwc is...head to head saturday night in the fieldhouse...sorry wu you got no chaqnce out in spokane.

blackhawks4 · February 18, 2006, 01:56:53 AM

Karma keeps droppin huh?

Pat coleman is so cool.

I know its not as important with tight playoff race, but what the nwc all conference team should be...

POTY: Curtiss
COTY: Bridgeland
pecht
olinger
mcvey
born
scmick

What it will be...

POTY: pecht
COTY: James
curtiss
olinger
mcvey
born
schmick

NWhoops1903, did you really go through the whole registration thing for 1 week? Waste of time.

BBal addict:: You still got shotgun.

Oxy the best team in the region lost?

No way! To a good team too, huh...Didn't see that coming.

bearcats...hate to be a knitpicker..but you forgot one off of your all american list...

Pat Coleman · February 18, 2006, 02:04:13 AM

Quote from: blackhawks4 on February 18, 2006, 01:56:53 AM
Pat coleman is so cool.

I'm not the one smiting you, but ok, whatever.

Anyone with more than 200 posts can add to or take away from a poster's karma.

SpooH SreggoL · February 18, 2006, 02:12:03 AM

Certainly one night doesn't make a POTY, but BHawks is right that Curtis vs Olinger wasn't a contest tonight. An uninformed observer might even have had a hard time identifying Olinger as WU's best player. However, it wasn't a bad night by Olinger that determined this game. Curtis and McVey set the tone with an intensity that the Bearcats simply couldn't match. Willamette was never comfortable with the Loggers D and found a way to travel or fumble away the few easy looks they got when they broke the press. Either WW or WU will have a nearly impossible time beating UPS in Tacoma if the Loggers turn in a remotely similar effort.

nwhoops1903 · February 18, 2006, 05:00:32 AM

Nice win for UPS, but who is really surprised. Not me. UPS is always tough at home and WU sounded helpless or even worse pathetic. I guess they thought McVey couldnt' beat them...they we're wrong. McVey played big
and they paid the price for trying to man him.

Finally WU can feel good about those pioneer, missionary and boxer victories but they haven't won a game that mattered since they beat UPS. Nice season..good record...good night WU. I predict WW handles WU in Spokane despite a spirited effort that runs out of steam mid second half. WW 95 WU 81

Congrats to Loggers on a hard fought conference reg season title. 3 in a row is quite impressive EB should get COTY for winning conference..end of story.

POTY...hmm..let's see...leading scorer....most POTW awards....is this voted on after conf. tourney? IF WW wins tourney Pecht, if UPS wins I still say Pecht...haha GL LP!

If Pirates lose Sat. to Pacific I will be amazed and amazingly wrong but I will drive all the way to WU to watch them make history by beating WU 3 times in one season.

Now to respond to you regs...never even saw the forum until last week so get used to my Pirate posts.

Bearcatsfan3 quotes a ghost saying something about "shaking in boots"...I said and I quote " No one wants to face Pirates right now." And I stand by it. UPS would love to see WU come back to get McVey'd again. Great game Big Log. Check your own boots bearcat and learn when and when not to use quotation marks.

No reason to argue with bbaddict cause statistically he is right...but we all KNOW, so am I..especially after WU's egg Friday. Didn't WW lose at UPS by 1 point and had a final shot that missed to win that game? That's not what I heard at the end of tonight's game.

I raise my glass to NWC HOOPS...GL to all and may the best team win the tourney.

bbaddict · February 18, 2006, 05:27:57 AM

Who are we kidding? Did we watch the same game? The guys in stripes should've been wearing Loggers unis! UPS traveled so much they should get frequent flyer points & they hammered Olinger & Stuvland (and anyone else) anytime they got near the hoop -- and hardly ever got a foul call. Traveling got called several times on Mansfield & Erickson, however. And, what did those refs have against our Freshman Fife? He looked crosseyed at someone & got a foul. Of course UPS won by 25 -- actually it should've been 40 with the guys in white, whoops I mean stripes on their side. What can you expect in Tacoma?

I'll ride shotgun -- but only if you actually finish the job. The conference tourney determines the champion -- not the regular season win/loss. So, this week is about position & home court advantage, but next week is about winning the conference. We'll talk then!! It ain't over ....

SpooH SreggoL · February 18, 2006, 11:39:27 AM

I thought it might not be long before a WU fan cried "foul" about this game. No UPS fan has ever disputed the fact that the Loggers push, pull, and hold in any effort to turn you over or get to a loose ball. It has become a trademark of the Logger's run over the past three years. I thought the refs established early that they would not call every ticky-tack foul in the back court, but would reward teams if they forced the action and took the ball to the hoop. Certainly, this plays right into the Loggers style, but most players/coaches will tell you that all they want from refs is consistency and WU never adjusted.

As for your conspiracy theory . . .

Fouls

WU - 27
UPS - 27

FT Attempts
WU - 34
UPS - 40