MBB: Northwest Conference

[bbaddict]

Yeah, do you suppose Coach James arranged for that power outage?   I don't mind bad calls, but consistently inconsistent and one-sided -- that really bugs me!

Agreed.  Do you know offhand what the free throw disparity was?  I'm guessing L&C had somewhere around 10 more  made and attempted than the Bearcats.

Hey BCP---just found the answer to your question.   WU had 7 FT attempts & L&C had 18 FT attempts in the first half.  But you know as well as I do, that the foul calls were only a part of it!   Maybe Monday ..

[bbaddict]

Wow, crazy night at L&C.  14 fouls in one half, especially a first half when isn't going to be fouling to get possessions, is pretty unusual.

No, the crazy part of the night was when the lights went out.   Really, really dark!!

[LogShow]

Logshow!!!   

[pantherpride06]

its up again....not impressed with the loggers so far. very sloppy and giving up easy shots to a whitman team that really just isnt very good

Not sure if I've seen a positive comment our of you logshock101 about this year's version of the Loggers.  From my understanding, this is one of the better Logger clubs of recent times.  What is it that you've seen that makes you think this isn't a good team?

[TryMeTeam]

Not sure if I've seen a positive comment our of you logshock101 about this year's version of the Loggers.  From my understanding, this is one of the better Logger clubs of recent times.  What is it that you've seen that makes you think this isn't a good team?

I know Shock can speak for himself, but I just have to jump in here.  Shock has been honest about the loggers for as long as I can remember.  He is not a rah-rah guy no matter what, and will say it like it is when UPS is not playing well, and I have agreed with him most of the time.

When I said Lunt might be too young to lead a team for the final half of the season and into the playoffs, Shock is the one who stood up for him.  I know he is a UPS fan through and through, and wants his team to do well, even when they aren't playing their best.  When he says they are not playing welll, that doesn't mean he isn't rooting for them.

Enough.

[Pugetsoundfan]

I don't think it's a shot at the Logs to say that they didn't play well at Whitman.  I think he's right.  I was streaming the video while doing some other stuff, and while the game was never, ever in doubt the Loggers were a little out of sync for much of the night.  On the other hand, the defense was pretty good (though Whitman's quick point was getting to the hoop a little too easily) and, as they've done for most of the season, UPS made life miserable for opponents' big long range scorers.  Fraidley had few decent looks.  Coming off the big win at Whitworth and playing an inferior opponent on the road, the win they got was sound and worth celebrating. 

In perspective, UPS has lost two games, one to a nationally ranked DII school and the other to a nationally ranked NAIA school, both tight contests.  They haven't had a close game in conference.  Today D3hoops is touting #2 St. Thomas blowout win over Gustavus as evidence that it deserves its rating....the Logs crushed them, too.

The bottom line is that the Logs are good and they're deep, they're playing good hard defense, and they seem to have enough deep threats to hang with good long range shooting teams.  It's their year for the taking in NWC.     

[pantherpride06]

I didn't mean to start a war... I was just curious what he saw.  My bad if it come across as mad or upset.

[LogShow]

I didn't mean to start a war... I was just curious what he saw.  My bad if it come across as mad or upset.

I didn't see it like that at all.  No hard feelings from this perspective.

I think logshock was just frustrated by some of the easy baskets giving up and the fact that UPS is heads and shoulders better then Whitman, but was playing down to them a little bit (what has happened the past few years).  I think that everyone around UPS and its fans have high expectations...thats all.

It has been refreshing to see the Logs actually play some defense this year.

[LogShow]

What a great weekend for the loggers...sweeping the eastern washington trip is huge for them.  I am thinking they have a great shot at finishing the first round 8-0.  I don't think that the great UPS team that won 3 straight conference crowns even did that.  Great weekend guys!

[logshock101]

its up again....not impressed with the loggers so far. very sloppy and giving up easy shots to a whitman team that really just isnt very good

Not sure if I've seen a positive comment our of you logshock101 about this year's version of the Loggers.  From my understanding, this is one of the better Logger clubs of recent times.  What is it that you've seen that makes you think this isn't a good team?

don't get me wrong, i am one of the biggest ups fans that you'll ever meet, i lived and died by logger hoops when i was in school and still do the same now that im not there. in my opinion i'd my opinion, in terms of talent id say this is the 4th best team since the 03-04 season. the best was the 04-05 squad, then the 03-04 squad, then last years underachieving squad (i think if lunts adjustments to the defense and defensive style for the 08-09 team were applied to last years team, they woulda gone real far especially with an all round stud like wood and a pure shooter like marsh, something this years team lacks) and then the 08-09 team. all that being said i think that this ups team is VERY good, but i am skeptical after the last 2 seasons. it was never the 1st half of NWC play that was the problem, the last 2 years the loggers started out 7-1 and then dropped off the 2nd half of conference. i would give anything to not have that happen again this year, and it frustrates me when we play down to the level of a lesser team, because all that does is give them a chance to hang around and maybe pull off the upset. its the little slip ups that decide who will be conference champs.

I didn't take this as any sort of a personal attack, as my good friend mtnman might have  but a huge win over whitworth on friday and some bad play against whitman on the next night is something i still have nightmares about

[logshock101]

logggers are in a great spot to start conference 8-0 with the next 2 games at home. gotta hold at home!

[logshock101]

any of u LC or bearcat fans got predictions for the final 20 minutes of action? My guess is that Gordie will have watched 1st half game film and made some adjustments that are gonna make Willamette pretty tough tonight

[Pio20]

any of u LC or bearcat fans got predictions for the final 20 minutes of action? My guess is that Gordie will have watched 1st half game film and made some adjustments that are gonna make Willamette pretty tough tonight

Yeah this one is kind of scary. I think it will stay close to the end with LC winning 74-69. Look for Kollasch to do the majority of the scoring in the second half for LC.

[Bearcat Press]

any of u LC or bearcat fans got predictions for the final 20 minutes of action? My guess is that Gordie will have watched 1st half game film and made some adjustments that are gonna make Willamette pretty tough tonight

I agree - but the fouls are going to be a major factor.  Mitchell has three, and I think Kunke has three too.  If Mitchell picks up a fourth early on in the second half, our ability to work in the paint takes a major hit.  Tain Cantrell just doesn't have the same finishing skills as Mitchell.

I'm still trying to get over 14 team fouls against L&C's 5 in the first half.  Anyone know who those officials were/are?

[TryMeTeam]

any of u LC or bearcat fans got predictions for the final 20 minutes of action? My guess is that Gordie will have watched 1st half game film and made some adjustments that are gonna make Willamette pretty tough tonight

I agree - but the fouls are going to be a major factor.  Mitchell has three, and I think Kunke has three too.  If Mitchell picks up a fourth early on in the second half, our ability to work in the paint takes a major hit.  Tain Cantrell just doesn't have the same finishing skills as Mitchell.

I'm still trying to get over 14 team fouls against L&C's 5 in the first half.  Anyone know who those officials were/are?

BCP, you have to get over blaming it on the officials.  I didn't see the game, but my biddy who was there explained it to me.

Wil didn't go inside very much and when they did, they had the physical ability to pull up for the jumper or finish inside.  LC's big men are not that physical and tend to get out of the way.

LC on the other hand was driving to the basket time and again, and Wil was trying to block every shot or reaching. 

That was his take, and I know that is hersay, but it makes sense.  The fouls would probably have been nearly the same with a different set of officials. 

And usually, the same officials are given the same game when it is played from a certain point on, like this one.  So expect the same officials.

He also found a set of halftime stats (I think he swiped them in the dark), and said Mitchlell has three, and Kunke, Babich, Constantino and Erickson have two.

He sent me the names of the officials, but lets not go there.