MBB: Northwest Conference

TryMeTeam · January 23, 2015, 10:03:16 AM

Great points, Greg!

I think you touched on it, but I would also add that, for some schools, 5 or 10 more students would be nice additions to the student body and financial numbers. It never hurts to have more reason(s) for students to enroll in your school.

Keandre · January 23, 2015, 12:48:44 PM

Rat, you may have been partially right abou t Lunt and Bridgelands recruits leaving UPS and all that, but one thing you have to remember, Bridge has not beat Lunt in the playoffs yet. So, when you think about that, does your proclamation about Lunt really matter? Record might not be that great as of late, but when comparing Lunt and Bridge, which we will do until either leave the league, Lunt out coaches him head to head, and with two totally different styles. People would say all Lunt knows is what Bridge showed him with dribble drive and the pres, but now, Lunt has evolved and is getting gret results. Their team this year, WILL take down Whitworth!

A Buc Forever · January 23, 2015, 09:42:18 PM

Quote from: Keandre on January 23, 2015, 12:48:44 PM
Rat, you may have been partially right abou t Lunt and Bridgelands recruits leaving UPS and all that, but one thing you have to remember, Bridge has not beat Lunt in the playoffs yet. So, when you think about that, does your proclamation about Lunt really matter? Record might not be that great as of late, but when comparing Lunt and Bridge, which we will do until either leave the league, Lunt out coaches him head to head, and with two totally different styles. People would say all Lunt knows is what Bridge showed him with dribble drive and the pres, but now, Lunt has evolved and is getting gret results. Their team this year, WILL take down Whitworth!

I like Lunt and he does a great job of coaching. However, coaching is only half the battle. You have to recruit and Bridgeland brings in better talent than Lunt. Gotta give Bridgeland his due on what he's done at both places. Given that Logie out recruits AND out coaches Lunt, this will not be the decade UPS takes down WW.

With regard to JV teams. When WW had a JV team most of the JV starters eventually moved up to varsity. That said, the winning started after they got rid of the JV program.

Gregory Sager · January 23, 2015, 10:45:05 PM

Quote from: A Buc Forever on January 23, 2015, 09:42:18 PM
I like Lunt and he does a great job of coaching. However, coaching is only half the battle. You have to recruit

Recruiting isn't separate from coaching. In fact, it's the most important part of college coaching.

Pinecone_Curtain · January 24, 2015, 02:40:04 AM

Quote from: Keandre on January 23, 2015, 12:48:44 PM
Lunt has evolved and is getting gret results. Their team this year, WILL take down Whitworth!

Keandre, I love that you represent UPS on here. We definitely need a Logger voice. But sometimes it's hard to take you and Blackhawk seriously with these outlandish guarantees that never pan out! UPS is 3-3 which includes a loss to Willamette(!). They still have WM and PLU, which means UPS will likely finish the first half of the slate 4-4. Are those the results you're talking about? I don't doubt UPS could take WW at home in a single game, but to take them down to win the league? Yeah, not so much. Got to hand it to your boys tonight, they fought. That Shattuck kid is a pretty decent shooter, and Whitworth played some tough D against Holden tonight.

I'm going with WW, LC, WM & WIL tomorrow.

Keandre · January 24, 2015, 11:22:31 AM

I would not say that I throw out guarantees, just more of hopefull statements. It's great to hear ALL about the Eastern Washington teams because they are very good but at times, other NWC teams need to get some love. UPS can be very dangerous and even though we don't know which team will show up, I am always going to choose them. I have seen them play very good ball and not so good ball, but when Barber, Shattuck, and Holden are clicking, they are tough.

I got WW, LC, UPS, Wil tonight

(509)Rat · January 24, 2015, 01:25:46 PM

UPS played a nice first half, forcing almost all of Whitworth's 9 turnovers (for the game) in the first 20 minutes. It also helped that Whitworth went 1-9 from 3 in that same half...

Whitworth has the better team and played a better game, don't think it will be any different later this season in Tacoma.

UPS v Whitman should be a good one tonight. I have no earthly idea who will win...anyone who says they do is lying. Which team will show up? For either side? I mean Whitman has to be the favorite playing at home but they've been streakier than the co-eds at the Chapman undie run.

D O.C. · January 24, 2015, 08:00:09 PM

It is so windy here in SoCal that I am indoors and actually going to tune in to the LINFIELD / WU game at 6 pm and watch as long as I can take it.

D O.C. · January 24, 2015, 11:01:43 PM

Did I mention I turned to 'Goldmember' on WGN before halftime?

Sheesh, lot of work to do on our program.

(509)Rat · January 25, 2015, 09:45:21 AM

Whitman handled UPS last night. Both programs are in much different places than they were 5 years ago. One for the worse and one for better

Last night went as expected and has Willamette sitting in 4th. That's COTY stuff if they can make the conference tourney...

Pinecone_Curtain · January 25, 2015, 05:02:25 PM

Mid-NWC season awards? Here are mine:

POTY: Jurlina (best player on the best team)
COTY: Ioane

1st Team:
Howard
Holden
Luedtke
Ovchinnikov
Love

I feel like WM should maybe have a player...but who? Mounier maybe, but I don't think Clough. I could maybe field an argument for Mounier over Ovchinnikov.

blackhawks4 · January 25, 2015, 05:42:46 PM

Quote from: (509)Rat on January 25, 2015, 09:45:21 AM
Last night went as expected and has Willamette sitting in 4th. That's COTY stuff if they can make the conference tourney...

I'm sorry Rat, but this guy has been at Willamette for 6 years and a 4th place finish is worthy of COTY???

Mid-Season Awards (not a bad job, Pinceone)

POTY: Jurlina--best player on 1st place team
COTY: It goes to the coach who wins the conference

1st Team:
Holden (UPS)
Howard (GF)
Love (WW)
Martin (WMN)
Luedtke (Will)

Upset Watch: Keep your eyes on Friday night in Eastern Washington.

Pinecone_Curtain · January 26, 2015, 01:18:32 AM

Quote from: blackhawks4 on January 25, 2015, 05:42:46 PM
Upset Watch: Keep your eyes on Friday night in Eastern Washington.

You really think WIL is going to take down WM

I agree in some ways with you, Blackhawk, on COTY. If Logie takes this team to a 15-1 or better finish, he should get it. But Kip has turned his program around in the first half of this season--which is why I gave him my mid-season COTY.

A Buc Forever · January 26, 2015, 02:39:28 AM

Pinecone,
Why concede 15-1 for WW. We are still undefeated!!! I think we may be another 2010 team. 16-0 and win the conference tourney. Why? Because Logie coaches better than the other coaches.

Sager,

Coaching and recruiting are both important for your program but coaching is far more important than recruiting. The best example is Oregon State's basketball team right now. Craig Robinson recruited far superior talent than what they have right now and couldn't win with it. Wayne tinkle is third in the PAC 12 with a completely decimated roster. The guy that coaches his players up and coaches during the game well will beat a big-time recruiter who doesn't do the coaching as well every time.

blackhawks4 · January 26, 2015, 12:55:20 PM

Quote from: A Buc Forever on January 26, 2015, 02:39:28 AM
Pinecone,
Why concede 15-1 for WW. We are still undefeated!!! I think we may be another 2010 team. 16-0 and win the conference tourney. Why? Because Logie coaches better than the other coaches.

You see that, A Buc. It may be subconscious, but everyone knows its coming...

The only thing I'm willing to concede that Logie is better at is throwing a suitcoat.