MBB: Northwest Conference

[Bearcat Press]

12/20  Linfield @ Seattle U  (this could be an interesting game)

Little-known, obscure, meaningless fact of the day: Last night Seattle beat Cal Poly San Luis Obispo 60-59 at SLO. It was SeattleU's first road win over a D-I team in 28 years. Before last night SeattleU's last road victory over a Division I school (as a D-I program) was against the University of San Diego in the second-to-last game of the 1979-80 season.

OxyBob

I know it's not wise to get in "fact-offs" with OxyBob, but I know for a fact that Seattle U beat D-I University of Portland on the road back in 2005.

http://www.portlandpilots.com/news/2005/11/24/53754.aspx?path=mbball

[OxyBob]

12/20  Linfield @ Seattle U  (this could be an interesting game)

Little-known, obscure, meaningless fact of the day: Last night Seattle beat Cal Poly San Luis Obispo 60-59 at SLO. It was SeattleU's first road win over a D-I team in 28 years. Before last night SeattleU's last road victory over a Division I school (as a D-I program) was against the University of San Diego in the second-to-last game of the 1979-80 season.

I know it's not wise to get in "fact-offs" with OxyBob, but I know for a fact that Seattle U beat D-I University of Portland on the road back in 2005.

Correct, except SeattleU was D-II in 2005, not D-I.

...SeattleU's last road victory over a Division I school (as a D-I program)...

11/24/2005:

The Portland Pilots did everything necessary for a win offensively Wednesday night against Division-II Seattle, but the Redhawks (3-0) pulled off their second upset of a Division I program this season with an 88-85 victory over the Pilots (1-3) Wednesday night at the Chiles Center.

OxyBob

[Bearcat Press]

12/20  Linfield @ Seattle U  (this could be an interesting game)

Little-known, obscure, meaningless fact of the day: Last night Seattle beat Cal Poly San Luis Obispo 60-59 at SLO. It was SeattleU's first road win over a D-I team in 28 years. Before last night SeattleU's last road victory over a Division I school (as a D-I program) was against the University of San Diego in the second-to-last game of the 1979-80 season.

I know it's not wise to get in "fact-offs" with OxyBob, but I know for a fact that Seattle U beat D-I University of Portland on the road back in 2005.

Correct, except SeattleU was D-II in 2005, not D-I.

...SeattleU's last road victory over a Division I school (as a D-I program)...

11/24/2005:

The Portland Pilots did everything necessary for a win offensively Wednesday night against Division-II Seattle, but the Redhawks (3-0) pulled off their second upset of a Division I program this season with an 88-85 victory over the Pilots (1-3) Wednesday night at the Chiles Center.

OxyBob

I figured that was what you meant.

[OxyBob]

I figured that was what you meant.

"I am excited for Seattle University because Division II is where the university belongs, continuing our competition with traditional rival institutions. Furthermore, Seattle University stands a better chance of achieving success as a Division II athletic program than it does as a Division III program." -- Nancy Gerou, Director of Seattle University Sports, December 11, 1998

"I welcome the decision of the Board of Trustees. I am confident this decision is in the best interest of our students. I look forward to making this a successful athletic program." -- Fr. Stephen V. Sundborg, S.J., Seattle University President, December 11, 1998

"I welcome this decision and see it, essentially, as the determination that the intercollegiate athletic aspect of Seattle University should be on a par and consistent with the quality of the rest of our university. The return to Division I is the best decision for Seattle University's future -- for our campus community, alumni and friends, and for our competitive edge as the leading independent university in the Northwest." Fr. Stephen V. Sundborg, S.J., Seattle University President, May 11, 2007

Hey, Father Sundborg, make up your mind already!

OxyBob

[pineconefan]

Watching Seattle University grope for a proper home for its athletics department over the last 25 or so years has been interesting.

Way back when I was at Whitworth, I remember watching the Bucs beat Seattle in an NAIA district playoff game soon after the Chieftains (that's what they were then) had left NCAA DI.

They were NAIA throughout the 80s and early 90s, then moved up to DIII to join the NWC for a couple of years in around 1996 or 1997 (around the time the NWC was also making the transition to DIII).  It seemed like Seattle U quickly found out that it needed some financial incentive to get student-athletes to come to school.  Competing against the rest of the NWC for students was a tough task.  The other NWC schools offered better academics and better location.

So Seattle left the NWC after only two years and dropped to DII.  It might've been a more natural fit anyway, considering they have a natural in-city rival (Seattle Pacific).

But President Sundborg has always been sending signals out that he'd like to see Seattle U back in the WCC, especially as Gonzaga saw its national image rise dramatically with the rise of the basketball team.

The (now) Redhawks jumped through all the hoops to move to DI, only to have the WCC reject the bid for membership (the WCC is comfortable with eight schools and doesn't want to deal with a schedule that includes nine).  So SU went ahead with the move anyway and now will try to survive as a DI independent in the shadow of UW (literally) and Gonzaga (figuratively).

I wish them luck.

[cawcdad]

A FWIW, University of the Pacific in Stockton was also turned down by the WCC along with Seattle U. The two schools would have made the WCC a 10 school conference.

[Bearcat Press]

My grandfather was the treasurer at the University of Portland for 24 years, I grew up as a Pilots basketball fan (a painful existence), and I still help run a Pilots message board.  The general assumption around the WCC is that they want to see that Seattle is really committed to being D-I before they take them into the conference.  Additionally, with the WCC's men's basketball profile on the rise (three teams in the NCAAs last year), nobody's willing to take the strength of schedule hit.  So, since the WCC won't let SU in (yet), Pacific got rejected to avoid a nine-team conference.

But if Seattle can demonstrate a solid commitment to D-I athletics, the WCC won't turn them down.  Getting into the Seattle TV market is a no-brainer, and both Gonzaga and UP want another Pacific Northwest school to cut travel costs.  If Seattle gets in, Pacific gets in, and I have no doubt that both schools will be in the WCC by 2012 at the latest.

[nwhoops1903]

Latest poll has Whitworth moving up to 18th and getting 44 more votes.  UPS frozen at 21 with same vote tally.  Another week of silence for these 2 teams.  Which NWC teams have games this week?  Linfield @ Seattle U anybody else?

Conference just around the corner.  Can't wait.

[LogShow]

Results from 12/16

Pacific (Ore.)  92  Concordia (Ore.)  89 

Red Deer  53  Whitworth  89 

[LogShow]

NWHoops,

What do you know about Red Deer, I have never heard of them before.

[nwhoops1903]

Red Deer College, Alberta Colleges Athletic Conference - South Member

Their reg season breaks from 11/29 to 1/9 so this is a game to keep them from getting rusty I suppose.  Canadian = exhibition.  Glorified scrimmage with Refs.

About all I can figure out.

[LogShow]

Red Deer College, Alberta Colleges Athletic Conference - South Member

Their reg season breaks from 11/29 to 1/9 so this is a game to keep them from getting rusty I suppose.  Canadian = exhibition.  Glorified scrimmage with Refs.

About all I can figure out.

Thanks NWHoops

[LogShow]

A much smaller Battle in Seattle also takes place tomorrow, with Linfield squaring off against Seattle U.  Good luck to Linfield...lets get a win over a DI.

[LogShow]

A much smaller Battle in Seattle also takes place tomorrow, with Linfield squaring off against Seattle U.  Good luck to Linfield...lets get a win over a DI.

Sounds like this game got called due to the stormy weather in Seattle.  Not sure if a make up date has been set yet.

[logshock101]

A much smaller Battle in Seattle also takes place tomorrow, with Linfield squaring off against Seattle U.  Good luck to Linfield...lets get a win over a DI.

Sounds like this game got called due to the stormy weather in Seattle.  Not sure if a make up date has been set yet.

a couple of other games were played in seattle today, both gonzaga and uw had games that got played. maybe linfield had some issues coming up from oregon, heard the weather was causing problems down there too