MBB: Northwest Conference

[nwhoops1903]

The eastern Washington battle is tomorrow and hopefully Dave Riley can upstage Obama and put on a performance like he did Sat vs PLU.  People he went for 34 in the FIRST half!!  Does the conference keep those kind of records?  Oh yea, he is a sophmore.

It will be nice to climb into second place after tomorrow's game (at WW).  Looks like the standings are right in place with preseason predictions, but as It has been said earlier, you gotta play the games.  Go Pirates.

[(509)Rat]

This one was never even close...Whitworth over Whitman 101-70.  Bridgeland has a lot of work to do.

[bbaddict]

This one was never even close...Whitworth over Whitman 101-70.  Bridgeland has a lot of work to do.

But the big question, Rat, is, why did Hayford leave the starters in since it was such a blowout?  Seems like it would've been a good night to let someone like Stockton play??

Pio20-- I was referring to Tsukazaki--I thought he was pretty mean with 3's?  Maybe not.  He might have just had a great streak the night I watched him.  I do remember him being very aggressive at the defensive end.

Should be an interesting game between the Pios & the Pirates on Friday.  Think it'll be close, but L&C should win.

[Pio20]

This one was never even close...Whitworth over Whitman 101-70.  Bridgeland has a lot of work to do.

But the big question, Rat, is, why did Hayford leave the starters in since it was such a blowout?  Seems like it would've been a good night to let someone like Stockton play??

Pio20-- I was referring to Tsukazaki--I thought he was pretty mean with 3's?  Maybe not.  He might have just had a great streak the night I watched him.  I do remember him being very aggressive at the defensive end.

Should be an interesting game between the Pios & the Pirates on Friday.  Think it'll be close, but L&C should win.

Tsukazaki is shooting at a .185 clip from behind the arc. Not sure what game you saw him. But he must have been on fire that night. I hope the Pios can pull out a win Friday! If they continue to take the ball to the hoop and get to the foul line they have a good chance to win.

[nwhoops1903]

This one was never even close...Whitworth over Whitman 101-70.  Bridgeland has a lot of work to do.

But the big question, Rat, is, why did Hayford leave the starters in since it was such a blowout?  Seems like it would've been a good night to let someone like Stockton play??

Should be an interesting game between the Pios & the Pirates on Friday.  Think it'll be close, but L&C should win.

I am pretty sure I saw the lead down to 16 in the second half.  WW was in control but it wasn't a classic blowout.  I think playing the starters was the right call, plus starters only got like 5 minutes of second half action in the real blowout (45 point lead) against PLU Saturday night.  Nakamura going for all 40...fine 10 guys played for WW.

[(509)Rat]

But the big question, Rat, is, why did Hayford leave the starters in since it was such a blowout?  Seems like it would've been a good night to let someone like Stockton play??

Simple answer...you don't put your subs against that press with 5+ minutes left because they can cause enough turnovers/force enough bad shots to get right back in a 16 point game. 

Oh, and its Hayford who is the second biggest d*** in the conference behind Bridgeland.  The only reason people tolerate him is because he's a fundraising machine and he wins...a lot.  He's actually a really nice guy off the court, just a little arrogant when it comes to his program at Whitworth

*This post in no way reflects the opinion or values of Whitworth University.  They are original property of the author (509)Rat himself. 

[Bearcat Press]

My bad BearcatPress, I think my post came off rougher than intended... Thanks for the response...  I understand where you're coming from...

I agree with you that Lowery is doing a good job to keep the boat afloat without the Bartletts, I know Carson Bartlett's injury is season ending but I think Ross Bartlett is expected back soon.  Either way I think my Boxers have an absolute beast waiting for them in Tacoma Friday, hope they can put up some type of fight.  Linfield at home on Saturday, a split this weekend I'm sure they would take.

Great game tonight for your Bearcats...  We're you there?

You say you were at the Pac-Fox game Tuesday, what did you think?

That makes two of us that hopes the Boxers give UPS a fight on Friday night.  Take them to overtime or something!   I actually think the Boxers match up pretty well with the Logs, as long as they don't let themselves get into an up-tempo game.  Howe can just dominate the paint.  Of course, you can't overlook Linfield either.  They're definitely the enigma of the conference this year.

Great character game for the Bearcats against L&C on Monday night.  I wasn't able to make it, but I listened to Mike Allegre's webcast.  The Pios are very good team, but IMO they settled for way too many threes in the second half.  Given their success in getting to the foul line on Saturday, I was really surprised that they didn't attack as much on Monday.  All that being said, I'm kind of freaked out that UPS torched a team that good by 24.

The big positive for WU coming out of the L&C game is that we've proven we can win without Cam Mitchell, who fouled out after only 18 minutes of play.  Four other guys had double figures, and Scott Schoettgen and Tain Cantrell really stepped up in Cam's absence.

[nwhoops1903]

Oh, and its Hayford who is the second biggest d*** in the conference behind Bridgeland.  The only reason people tolerate him is because he's a fundraising machine and he wins...a lot.  He's actually a really nice guy off the court, just a little arrogant when it comes to his program at Whitworth

-1....and you can STFU.   Hayford and Bridgeland show pride, passion and commitment to their jobs and if you have a problem with competitiveness there's a board for hairpies like yourself somewhere out there.

[LogShow]

My bad BearcatPress, I think my post came off rougher than intended... Thanks for the response...  I understand where you're coming from...

I agree with you that Lowery is doing a good job to keep the boat afloat without the Bartletts, I know Carson Bartlett's injury is season ending but I think Ross Bartlett is expected back soon.  Either way I think my Boxers have an absolute beast waiting for them in Tacoma Friday, hope they can put up some type of fight.  Linfield at home on Saturday, a split this weekend I'm sure they would take.

Great game tonight for your Bearcats...  We're you there?

You say you were at the Pac-Fox game Tuesday, what did you think?

That makes two of us that hopes the Boxers give UPS a fight on Friday night.  Take them to overtime or something!   I actually think the Boxers match up pretty well with the Logs, as long as they don't let themselves get into an up-tempo game.  Howe can just dominate the paint.  Of course, you can't overlook Linfield either.  They're definitely the enigma of the conference this year.

Great character game for the Bearcats against L&C on Monday night.  I wasn't able to make it, but I listened to Mike Allegre's webcast.  The Pios are very good team, but IMO they settled for way too many threes in the second half.  Given their success in getting to the foul line on Saturday, I was really surprised that they didn't attack as much on Monday.  All that being said, I'm kind of freaked out that UPS torched a team that good by 24.

The big positive for WU coming out of the L&C game is that we've proven we can win without Cam Mitchell, who fouled out after only 18 minutes of play.  Four other guys had double figures, and Scott Schoettgen and Tain Cantrell really stepped up in Cam's absence.

yeah I am going to have to disagree with the bolded statement.  Howe has never faired well against the Loggers.  Personally, I don't think he likes the physical in your face defense of UPS.  All the games I have seen him in against UPS he was a none factor.  That said, I don't know if it that Pac matches up well...but they have done a good job of really slowing UPS down.  They do a good job of shortening the game and limiting possesions, but if they don't shoot a high percentage, they are going to struggle to stay in the game.

[NWCer]

Logshow,

Are you going to the game?  I'm tempted to but that Friday drive heading up there sucks!

I was at the Pac-Willamette game, GREAT performance by my Boxers, going to take another GREAT performance to keep up with the Loggers up there.  Pacific needs to get healthy.

[(509)Rat]

NWhoops:
Are you related to Jim?  Maybe an analogy will make sense to you...Hayford and Bridgeland would be the Bill Belichick's of NWC hoops.  They have an amazing eye for talent and systems that best utilize that talent.  They have both built incredibly strong programs based on their abilities as recruiters and coaches.  However, when it comes to on the court (or on the field in the case of belichik) they are jerks.  Check out what the Pats did to the jets after mangini pissed off belichick.  At that point sportsmanship didn't matter and it was personal.  I will point out though that the none of these guys show anything but respect for their own players, its the opposing team that gets the brunt of it all (and I think thats fine).  Its a proven coaching method, and I have no qualms with it...in many cases it works (for the Patriots, Pirates, and Loggers it worked wonders).  On the flip side you have the Tony Dungy approach as I like to call it.  He is much more reserved both on and off the field and treats everyone with respect.  For the Colts it worked, the Buccaneers had to bring in Gruden to fire people up before they won a Super Bowl...to each his own.

Somebody asked why Whit had their starters in when up by over 20 points...i apologize for giving an honest (unbiased) answer.  I never played basketball at Whitworth so I have no hidden agenda.  In fact, I've never had an encounter with Hayford that made me not like the guy.  Just being real...sorry that NWhoops couldn't handle it.  STFU?  Seriously?  Are we in high school?

[LogShow]

NWCer, I am going to try to make it to the game, as long as traffic lets me...it should be a great atmosphere with the students back.  I recommend you make the treck up the Greater Puget Sound Area 

[LogShow]

There are some huge games this weekend!

Either WW or LC is going to have 3 losses and will really put them behind in the conference title race...especially if UPS holds at home (which I fully expect) 

That would put UPS at 8-0, with LC and WW at 6-2 or 5-3, and Willamette at 5-3

[logshock101]

certainly are some big games this weekend. i hope to see separation between ups and the rest of the league.

good call on howe being ineffective against ups, he is yet to have a big game against us. (knock on wood)

[Pugetsoundfan]

Pacific was he only conference team the Loggers blew out a home last year.  I have a good feeling about the Pacific game, but I have a very, very bad feeling about Willamette.  They've stood up to the pressure very well the past few years...