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LogShow

Should have added this to my last post, but oh well...too many thoughts going through my head.

UPS/WW's quarter of the bracket is just brutal...

It includes:  #1 St. Thomas, #2 Wash U, #3 UPS, #4 Wheaton, #5 UW-Plattleville, #6 UW-Stevens Point, #7 UW-WW

Wow.

bbaddict

Quote from: LogShow on March 02, 2009, 12:06:45 PM
Should have added this to my last post, but oh well...too many thoughts going through my head.

UPS/WW's quarter of the bracket is just brutal...

It includes:  #1 St. Thomas, #2 Wash U, #3 UPS, #4 Wheaton, #5 UW-Plattleville, #6 UW-Stevens Point, #7 UW-WW

Wow.

It usually is brutal.   If you live on the left coast, you gotta be tough!

OxyBob

Quote from: bbaddict on March 02, 2009, 11:43:17 AM
OxyBob, are you surprised that CMS travels to Whitworth and not the other way around?

Claremont beat Whitworth head-to-head, but it's probably cheaper to fly CMS to play @ Whitworth and have the Stags stay over on Friday if they beat the Pirates. Saves a flight, and, as you know, cost-cutting trumps all other considerations in setting the brackets.

OxyBob

Tglassman55

I feel like Whitworth could go to the East bracket and win the whole thing.  Loving that UPS got the equivalent of a one seed.  too bad WW and UPS will have to play eachother so early. 

I wonder how the sweet 16 will go if one of the two win, probably fly Whitworth to the midwest, any chance the UPS would get to stay home you think?

nwhoops1903

#3484
Quote from: OxyBob on March 02, 2009, 12:26:10 PM
Quote from: bbaddict on March 02, 2009, 11:43:17 AM
OxyBob, are you surprised that CMS travels to Whitworth and not the other way around?

Claremont beat Whitworth head-to-head, but it's probably cheaper to fly CMS to play @ Whitworth and have the Stags stay over on Friday if they beat the Pirates. Saves a flight, and, as you know, cost-cutting trumps all other considerations in setting the brackets.

OxyBob
Tough break for Claremont and the SCIAC but very predictable choice by committee.

Should be a good game in Spokane and if the Pirates emerge with the W back to Tacoma for another WAR.  

I would have to agree that the quarter of the bracket NWC is in is VERY loaded...I am thinking that the eventual Champion will most likely come from there.  Might make a good poll.

Quote from: Tglassman55 on March 02, 2009, 12:37:00 PM
I feel like Whitworth could go to the East bracket and win the whole thing.  Loving that UPS got the equivalent of a one seed.  too bad WW and UPS will have to play eachother so early. 

I wonder how the sweet 16 will go if one of the two win, probably fly Whitworth to the midwest, any chance the UPS would get to stay home you think?
I bet WW would have paid their own airfare and hotel to go East.  But, such is life in the NW and far west and our mini pods.  Never gonna change as long as 2 NWC's get in.
NWC fan

LogShow

Quote from: nwhoops1903 on March 02, 2009, 12:40:53 PM
Quote from: OxyBob on March 02, 2009, 12:26:10 PM
Quote from: bbaddict on March 02, 2009, 11:43:17 AM
OxyBob, are you surprised that CMS travels to Whitworth and not the other way around?

Claremont beat Whitworth head-to-head, but it's probably cheaper to fly CMS to play @ Whitworth and have the Stags stay over on Friday if they beat the Pirates. Saves a flight, and, as you know, cost-cutting trumps all other considerations in setting the brackets.

OxyBob
Tough break for Claremont and the SCIAC but very predictable choice by committee.

Should be a good game in Spokane and if the Pirates emerge with the W back to Tacoma for another WAR.  

I would have to agree that the quarter of the bracket NWC is in is VERY loaded...I am thinking that the eventual Champion will most likely come from there.  Might make a good poll.

Quote from: Tglassman55 on March 02, 2009, 12:37:00 PM
I feel like Whitworth could go to the East bracket and win the whole thing.  Loving that UPS got the equivalent of a one seed.  too bad WW and UPS will have to play eachother so early. 

I wonder how the sweet 16 will go if one of the two win, probably fly Whitworth to the midwest, any chance the UPS would get to stay home you think?
I bet WW would have paid their own airfare and hotel to go East.  But, such is life in the NW and far west and our mini pods.  Never gonna change as long as 2 NWC's get in.

That is the truth NWHoops,

I would bet UPS would be in the same boat (even though we are hosting)

LogShow

I am just glad the NCAA didn't institute their SCIAC exception for the NWC  ;D

nwhoops1903

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Quote from: OxyBob on March 02, 2009, 12:26:10 PM
Quote from: bbaddict on March 02, 2009, 11:43:17 AM
OxyBob, are you surprised that CMS travels to Whitworth and not the other way around?

Claremont beat Whitworth head-to-head, but it's probably cheaper to fly CMS to play @ Whitworth and have the Stags stay over on Friday if they beat the Pirates. Saves a flight, and, as you know, cost-cutting trumps all other considerations in setting the brackets.

OxyBob

Very true about the head to head victory by CMS, however, WW had a much higher strength of schedule (Massey 26th toughest WW vs 128th CMS) and a victory over UPS, a higher rated regional opponent.  I think WW hosting is more than just money saving but well deserved.  And yes that's the opinion of a Pirate fan, take it for what its worth.
NWC fan

OxyBob

Quote from: nwhoops1903 on March 02, 2009, 01:50:11 PM
Quote from: OxyBob on March 02, 2009, 12:26:10 PM
Quote from: bbaddict on March 02, 2009, 11:43:17 AM
OxyBob, are you surprised that CMS travels to Whitworth and not the other way around?
Claremont beat Whitworth head-to-head, but it's probably cheaper to fly CMS to play @ Whitworth and have the Stags stay over on Friday if they beat the Pirates. Saves a flight, and, as you know, cost-cutting trumps all other considerations in setting the brackets.
Very true about the head to head victory by CMS, however, WW had a much higher strength of schedule (Massey 26th toughest WW vs 128th CMS) and a victory over UPS, a higher rated regional opponent. 

Massey Ratings are irrelevant.

Under the NCAA primary selection criteria, Claremont (19-4) had a better regional record than Whitworth (19-5). Whitworth's OWP and OOWP (.529, .518) were better than CMS's (.478, .482). Claremont beat Whitworth head-to-head. Whitworth was 5-0 against in-region common opponents; Claremont was 4-1. CMS was 1-0 against in-region regionally ranked teams; Whitworth was 1-3.

Not much to choose from between the two teams, but factor in the all-important travel costs and Whitworth gets the nod.

Good luck to the Pirates.

OxyBob

The Wiz

I was at the game when CMS played Whitworth and it was a great game!
The Stags came out hot and kept the intensity up all game and ended up victorious.
I think it will be another close game, but Whitworth at home gives them an edge.

bbaddict

Oh, the home thing definitely give Whitworth an advantage.  First, of all, it's a fieldhouse, which a lot of teams aren't used to.   The students are usually very loud & painted, which can be distracting.  And that big white banner makes it look kind of like a Pirate Ship.   Who wouldn't be scared?

bbaddict

Quote from: LogShow on March 02, 2009, 01:28:37 PM
I am just glad the NCAA didn't institute their SCIAC exception for the NWC  ;D

And Logs, be really glad that UPS isn't in the Elmhurst or St. Thomas brackets -- at least the travel thing works in your team's favor this year!  Sucks for the NWC, but really works better for UPS or Whitworth, whichever team makes it out of the 2nd round.

LogShow

Quote from: bbaddict on March 02, 2009, 03:31:15 PM
Quote from: LogShow on March 02, 2009, 01:28:37 PM
I am just glad the NCAA didn't institute their SCIAC exception for the NWC  ;D

And Logs, be really glad that UPS isn't in the Elmhurst or St. Thomas brackets -- at least the travel thing works in your team's favor this year!  Sucks for the NWC, but really works better for UPS or Whitworth, whichever team makes it out of the 2nd round.

That's true, but just know the sweet 16 will be in wisconsin...I've heard the town of stevens point is a great place to visit in march.

larry_u

Better Dead then Red

larry_u

Quote from: LogShow on March 02, 2009, 03:50:40 PM
Quote from: bbaddict on March 02, 2009, 03:31:15 PM
Quote from: LogShow on March 02, 2009, 01:28:37 PM
I am just glad the NCAA didn't institute their SCIAC exception for the NWC  ;D

And Logs, be really glad that UPS isn't in the Elmhurst or St. Thomas brackets -- at least the travel thing works in your team's favor this year!  Sucks for the NWC, but really works better for UPS or Whitworth, whichever team makes it out of the 2nd round.

That's true, but just know the sweet 16 will be in wisconsin...I've heard the town of stevens point is a great place to visit in march.

Not if St. Thomas beats UWSP.  The Twin Cities are a much nicer place to spend a March weekend.
Better Dead then Red