MBB: Northwest Conference

[bbaddict]

No fans in the conference are more organized, no fans change the game more, and NO fans want to win, more than Logger fans. 

I call bull****

Pio20--that cheer is already overused (and taken).

P.S.  I think you have very creative & colorful fans!

[Pio20]

No fans in the conference are more organized, no fans change the game more, and NO fans want to win, more than Logger fans. 

I call bull****

Pio, you should definitely stay out of this conversation!  Sorry, but the Pio fans are by far the worst in the league! 

I disagree...by my calculations Pio fans caused 13 turnovers throughout the season. We ALL didn't shower the night of the WW game causing major distractions to WW players. Oh, and one one Pio fan told me he really wanted to win this one game more than anything ever.

[Whitworth Dad]

I am dad of one of Whitworth's players and I enjoy following this blog.  You guys are great.  I just wanted to comment on Tglassman51's post about the differences in SAT scores between the schools.  I am a prof at Stanford so there is lot's of talk about SAT scores here and what they mean and there are three things to note about the score differences between WW and UPS:
1. It takes about a 100 point difference in scores to predict a difference in how two students will perform.
2.  There probably is not a statistical difference, and absolutely no difference in predicting academic performance between the two groups of students based on the differences between those SAT scores.
3.  Whitworth is a more touchy/feely kind of place than UPS.  They like to say they look at the whole person.  In some ways you could see this in my UW medical school class.  The UPS person (note singular person who got in from UPS that year) was always attending the business of medicine type extra lectures while us Whitworth types (note plural--more than 1 in the class) were mainstays in the international medicine and inner city clinic groups.

Finally, when I was in medical school at the UW I did not notice any difference in the intelligence level between my fellow students from the different NWC schools.  However, I was amazed at the how much pharmacology the Whitman students knew before we even started classes.  

[Bearcat Press]

This board has definitely taken a turn for the better in the postseason!

I for one want to hear bbaddict's story about the Linfield student section!

[nwhoops1903]

Pio, you should definitely stay out of this conversation!  Sorry, but the Pio fans are by far the worst in the league! 

Guess you have never been to Whitman, at least LC has fans. :p

Gonna be a great game.  Key matchup is Nakamura and Williams.  Key stat is WW layups on press break.  WW actually did poorly here in last weeks loss.  Key stat is Foster blocks and Krauel flops.  They are both awesome at these two skills.  Haven't heard about Gebbers status but he sat Thu.  I am amazed at WW's ability to overcome sub par games from Riley and Sellereit the past 2 or 3 games.   Montgomery pulls 15+ boards...WW wins.  Williams has 7 or less points...WW wins.
Halftime score WW 50 UPS 40.   Final  WW 94-85.

WW is a true cinderella.  Stevens Point and St Thomas advance on Friday night, as expected.

[D O.C.]

+1 for Whitworth Dad    8)

[bbaddict]

On a totally non-basketball note, did anyone else see this on the NWC site?

March 4, 2009
Four NWC members receive President's Honor Roll Award for Service
Linfield, Whitman, Whitworth and Willamette have all been selected to receive the President's Honor Roll Award for Service in 2008.

Thought that was pretty cool for a conference the size of ours to be represented by four schools!  Part of that touchy feely thing that Whitworth Dad was talking about.

By the way, welcome to the board, Whitworth Dad.

[UPS4Life]

The talk about chants is kind of dumb, but you guys gotta realize Tom Glassman is the premier organizer of the UPS student section and takes great pride in his work so he's gonna argue this one out with you and I don't blame him, he's relentless.

[UPS4Life]

Pio, you should definitely stay out of this conversation!  Sorry, but the Pio fans are by far the worst in the league! 

Guess you have never been to Whitman, at least LC has fans. :p

Gonna be a great game.  Key matchup is Nakamura and Williams.  Key stat is WW layups on press break.  WW actually did poorly here in last weeks loss.  Key stat is Foster blocks and Krauel flops.  They are both awesome at these two skills.  Haven't heard about Gebbers status but he sat Thu.  I am amazed at WW's ability to overcome sub par games from Riley and Sellereit the past 2 or 3 games.   Montgomery pulls 15+ boards...WW wins.  Williams has 7 or less...WW wins.
Halftime score WW 50 UPS 40.   Final  WW 94-85.

WW is a true cinderella.  Stevens Point and St Thomas advance on Friday night, as expected.

Robert a flopper?  Really? 

[nwhoops1903]

Gonna be a great game.  Key matchup is Nakamura and Williams.  Key stat is WW layups on press break.  WW actually did poorly here in last weeks loss.  Key stat is Foster blocks and Krauel flops.  They are both awesome at these two skills.  Haven't heard about Gebbers status but he sat Thu.  I am amazed at WW's ability to overcome sub par games from Riley and Sellereit the past 2 or 3 games.   Montgomery pulls 15+ boards...WW wins.  Williams has 7 or less points...WW wins.
Halftime score WW 50 UPS 40.   Final  WW 94-85.

Robert a flopper?  Really? 

It's not a criticism.  I really like his game.  He is excellent at drawing fouls and getting opponents off balance...then he falls down Oscar style. 

Stats prediction for tonight:

The NWC keeps and list's 19 team statistics on its site.  The team that ranks first in a category gets 9 points, 2nd 8, 3rd 7...etc.

WW  143 points
UPS  138 points

WW top of category in 8, UPS 7

Who is the better team? Statistically? WHITWORTH

[P4L]

The talk about chants is kind of dumb, but you guys gotta realize Tom Glassman is the premier organizer of the UPS student section and takes great pride in his work so he's gonna argue this one out with you and I don't blame him, he's relentless.

AS a former player I have to say that the two places toughest to play are WW and UPS.  Obviously being good helps.  I don't think if WW goes 2-23 this year they have quite the fan support.  Also, these are the two schools that actually put some thought into their yelling.  It's much easier to ignore an "F*** YOU!" or profanity in general than someone talking about your parents, teachers, or myspace page.  If you make the player laugh you have gotten into their head.  A monkey can say F-YOU.

Quick story from ESPN the MAG on heckling:  There was a hockey player in the NHL years back with a larger than normal head.  His name was Rob Skrlac.  As he came into the arena he was greeted with a sign that said "What would you rather have: A Million Dollars or Skrlac's helmet full of nickles?"

[LogShow]

I actually thought last saturday that WW did a good job getting lay-ups and easy buckets off of the UPS press.  The game had a much different feel then the one a few weeks before that when UPS clinched the conference.  Nothing was easy for WW that night...and Foster had 9 blocks.

All this talk about stats and what not has been great...but all the really matters is how the teams come out tonight and preform.  I am glad it's almost gametime. 

It is going to be a great atmosphere and game tonight!

[LogShow]

P4L,

You played for WW?

[Pio20]

A few years ago when I made the six hour trip up to Whitworth to see the NWC final between WW and LC me and the group I was with chanted "pickleball" every time Bryan Williams went to the free throw line. This after I did a little research and discovered he loved to play pickleball. This apparently caused him so much distraction that his mom came over and asked us to leave him alone. I like to think that was a pretty good chant. Not mentioning there were only six of us chanting it compared to the 500 some Whitworth fans across the court.

[bbaddict]

So, these are the games tonight in the "Bracket of Death" that we  (NWC) are in:


#21 Whitworth @ #7 Puget Sound (UPS)
#4 UWSP @ #1 UST
#5 UW-P-ville @ #3 Wheaton at Elmhurst
#8 UW-Whitewater @ #2 ranked Washington

By gametime for UPS/Whitworth, the other 3 will probably have been decided (or pretty close) since they start at 8 p.m. EST.    The winner of the Whitworth/UPS game will play #1 or #4 somewhere in the midwest.  But, it also means in that bracket, 3 of the top 8 teams (as ranked by D3hoops) will be eliminated tonight.

So, how do you all see this playing out?  These are 2nd round games??

I'm guessing P4L didn't play for Whitworth since he found that a tough place to play.  Or maybe he meant for others?

That's a great story Pio20--then did your group switch to "Your Mom" chants?