MBB: Northwest Conference

[nwhoops1903]

WHITWORTH!!!                          WHITWORTH!WHITWORTH!                           WHITWORTH!!!
   WHITWORTH!!!                    WHITWORTH!!!WHITWORTH!!!                      WHITWORTH!!!
   WHITWORTH!!!                    WHITWORTH!!!WHITWORTH!!!                      WHITWORTH!!!
      WHITWORTH!!!            WHITWORTH!!!          WHITWORTH!!!            WHITWORTH!!!
      WHITWORTH!!!            WHITWORTH!!!          WHITWORTH!!!            WHITWORTH!!!
         WHITWORTH!!!      WHITWORTH!!!                WHITWORTH!!!      WHITWORTH!!!
         WHITWORTH!!!      WHITWORTH!!!                WHITWORTH!!!      WHITWORTH!!!
            WHITWORTH!!!WHITWORTH!!!                      WHITWORTH!!!WHITWORTH!!!
            WHITWORTH!!!WHITWORTH!!!                      WHITWORTH!!!WHITWORTH!!!

[D O.C.]

What's that you said? WHITMAN?

[bbaddict]

C'mon JustBill -- "they get one for sure" isn't an opinion -- and you were telling me that I'm wrong.  That's fine, but you have to have something more than "you're wrong" and I guess maybe someone from the WIAC will win.

If you don't give a rip about the UPS/Whitworth game, what are you doing on the NWC board?

Pretty cool graphic nwhoops -- how long did that take you to create?

[TryMeTeam]

So, NWHoops, who are you pulling for tonight?

Is there a live feed for tonights' game.  The one on Thu from WW was outstanding!

[bbaddict]

Congrats to the Loggers -- represent the NWC well.  UW-SP sure gave the Tommies a handful tonight, so you can beat them.  Have fun in Minnesota, Logs!   Hope UPS can win all the way!  (See, I'm not a hater!)

It really sucks to be right in all the pick-ems except the one I cared about.  (WIAC really did go 0-3.) Whitworth had a great season, but they needed Jurich healthy tonight.  Also, what was with the # of free throws for UPS vs. Whitworth?   I didn't see the game, but I can't imagine that there was that big of difference in the fouls.  They're both very physical teams, but usually UPS is more physical.

Congrats to the Pirates & coaches on a well played season.

So, now our Quadrant contains #1, #2, #3, and #7, who recently was #3?  Have fun in the finals --hmmm....I mean Sectionals.

[Pugetsoundfan]

Wow, nice game all around.  Whitworth played tough, as usual. 

On the foul discrepancy, look at Foster--he took 16 foul shots.  With Jurich mostly out, Foster and Boyce (who was terrific and might have gone for 30 if not for the foul trouble) just attacked the front line, in Boyce's case a smaller player and in Foster's case typically Montgomery, a sweet player but not quick enough to guard Jason. 

For all that fine offensive play, I thought the most important player on the floor for UPS at times was #11, who was everywhere defensively. 

[Tglassman55]

I am dad of one of Whitworth's players and I enjoy following this blog.  You guys are great.  I just wanted to comment on Tglassman51's post about the differences in SAT scores between the schools.  I am a prof at Stanford so there is lot's of talk about SAT scores here and what they mean and there are three things to note about the score differences between WW and UPS:
1. It takes about a 100 point difference in scores to predict a difference in how two students will perform.
2.  There probably is not a statistical difference, and absolutely no difference in predicting academic performance between the two groups of students based on the differences between those SAT scores.
3.  Whitworth is a more touchy/feely kind of place than UPS.  They like to say they look at the whole person.  In some ways you could see this in my UW medical school class.  The UPS person (note singular person who got in from UPS that year) was always attending the business of medicine type extra lectures while us Whitworth types (note plural--more than 1 in the class) were mainstays in the international medicine and inner city clinic groups.

Finally, when I was in medical school at the UW I did not notice any difference in the intelligence level between my fellow students from the different NWC schools.  However, I was amazed at the how much pharmacology the Whitman students knew before we even started classes.  

First, why do you think it takes a hundred point swing instead of a 90 point swing like the difference between UPS and WW?   
There probably is not a statistical difference?  I could speculate about it also, but instead I just used the plain facts, people can read into how they will.  If SAT scores weren't important in telling how good a student would be in the future, than schools (like Stanford) wouldn't care about them at all.   
How can you possibly make a blanket statement about WW's touchy feeliness as compared to UPS!? 

I realize that you are in a biased position being a father of someone at Whitworth (and way to "drop in" Stanford and UW by the way) but it seems that you are REALLY going out on limb here with your opinions. 

As I said earlier, average freshman SAT scores for UPS are about 90 points on average higher than Whitworth's.  This means that some (obviously not all) the students who currently attend Whitworth would not have gotten into UPS.  Whitworth DOES however have a higher incoming freshman GPA (3.63 to 3.54) and the ACT scores are about even. 

The reason we chanted it was because we believed it would get into the players heads (and apparently fans and parents of fans?) and interestingly, out of all the things we said, this one stuck. 

[nwhoops1903]

I just wrote this huge post about tonight and this season...then accidentally clicked a bad link and came back and it was gone...Oh well.

Talk to you next year and I will be pulling for UPS next week.

[Tglassman55]

great game tonight!  It was awesome to see so many Whitworth fans make the trip.  It really made the environment great!  You guys had a great season and were definitely screwed in the rankings this season.  I have to say that it's tough as a NWC basketball fan that it's hard to see a class-act like Ross Nakamura graduate.

Good Game Whitworth, sure sets up some fun for next year's league games.   Off to the sweet 16!

[nwhoops1903]

great game tonight!  It was awesome to see so many Whitworth fans make the trip.  It really made the environment great!  You guys had a great season and were definitely screwed in the rankings this season.  I have to say that it's tough as a NWC basketball fan that it's hard to see a class-act like Ross Nakamura graduate.

Good Game Whitworth, sure sets up some fun for next year's league games.   Off to the sweet 16!

This was not a great game tonight.  It was a very frustrating game.  Decided by Foster, Free Throws and injuries.  Jurich attemping to go with a torn MCL from Thu was just gritty and gutsy.  You're an all time Buc Cal.  Full strength and one ref not making #$%& up and calling it 13 to 2 UPS would have been a better way to lose to a great player like Foster.  

[UPS4Life]

great game tonight!  It was awesome to see so many Whitworth fans make the trip.  It really made the environment great!  You guys had a great season and were definitely screwed in the rankings this season.  I have to say that it's tough as a NWC basketball fan that it's hard to see a class-act like Ross Nakamura graduate.

Good Game Whitworth, sure sets up some fun for next year's league games.   Off to the sweet 16!

This was not a great game tonight.  It was a very frustrating game.  Decided by Foster, Free Throws and injuries.  Jurich attemping to go with a torn MCL from Thu was just gritty and gutsy.  You're an all time Buc Cal.  Full strength and one ref not making #$%& up and calling it 13 to 2 UPS would have been a better way to lose to a great player like Foster.  

Sorry to burst everyone's bubble, but there's a reason why Jason Foster was the NWC Player of the Year, he showed it tonight.  The word abused comes to mind when I think about what he did to WW tonight.  I realize Jurich was injured, but it doesn't change the fact that every WW fan on here has been tooting Montgomery's horn lately and he got dominated tonight.  The only reason this didn't happen last week was because Jason was in foul trouble.

UPS played a great game, I loved that they took few three point shots, great adjustment by Lunt, they aren't necessary, scoring is what's necessary.  Nakamura was way off most of the game till the last quarter when it was too late, Austin Boyce played great at key moments, and the crowd was INCREDIBLE.  Best crowd I've ever seen in my life.

Whoever mentioned #11, awesome recognition, Colin Koach played a great game, I felt that his diving save out of bounds sparked UPS to the double digit lead, I was standing by and cheering with his father all night and couldn't have enjoyed the game more with anyone else.  If the Loggers can get past St. Thomas, as they say, "Like Kevin Garnett, anything is possible."

[Just Bill]

If you don't give a rip about the UPS/Whitworth game, what are you doing on the NWC board?

Wow. Your reading comprehension skills are horrible.  I said I didn't know.  I didn't say I didn't care.  I was on the board to learn more about the matchup.  Why don't you spend a little less time playing "message board cop."

[Greek Tragedy]

Rumor around the campfire is that you might be headed to Illinois, not Minnesota.

[LogShow]

Great great great game by the Loggers last night!  They looked really tough...Foster and Boyce had huge games, Kraul played well too (except for a few trips to the FT line).  WW hung tough...Riley can really shoot it.

It will be interesting to see how we match up against the big mid-west teams!  Good work Logs!  8) 

[LogShow]

Rumor around the campfire is that you might be headed to Illinois, not Minnesota.

I don't know where you get your info Old School...but your right.  Wheaton is hosting the sectional...wow.  St. Thomas can't catch a break...

So it's Wheaton & Wash U, St. Thomas & Puget Sound...sounds like a pretty good final four to me.