MBB: Northwest Conference

[Whatagame]

Regarding hosting, the Whitman women's team hosted both the Regional and Sectional in Walla Walla in 2014, for what it's worth.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Regarding hosting, the Whitman women's team hosted both the Regional and Sectional in Walla Walla in 2014, for what it's worth.

That was an anomaly that worked in Whitman's favor thanks to Christopher Newport. That pod was destined to be at Thomas More because there was a team on the eastern side that could easily drive to Thomas More. However, CNU upset Ferrum causing all four teams to be more than 500 miles from each other. Whitman was the top regionally ranked team (and best criteria) of the entire group, so the decision to send teams there worked out.

In 2004, Puget Sound was able to host the second weekend on the men's side despite the fact there were three flights needed. Both Stevens Point's men's and women's team were in position to host, but being an "even" year that gave the priority to the women. The other two teams were Sul Ross and Lawrence, so two flights were needed anyway. The NCAA either allowed the third flight or Lawrence wasn't in position to host (I can't remember the particulars). Stevens Point came out of the weekend by beating Puget Sound in the first game and then Lawrence in the second game.

Glad you think WW is a lock, but we are the school that won the league in football and did not get a bid. 

WM deserves a home game.  However, it's a 3 hour drive from Spokane. The NCAA has not wanted p to make teams travel just to Spokane.  Now they have the Spokane flight and a 3 hour drive.

Whitman is basically a lock to not only get in the tournament, but host. They would at worst have a 2-1 head-to-head advantage over Whitworth, not to mention SOS, WL%, and other criteria. And as Greg stated, what happened in football doesn't matter... especially since when you won in football there was no AQ at the time for the league. That was a long time ago. And how tournament selections were done then is (a) not the same as now, (b) has no bearing on decisions now-a-days, and (c) is a completely different committee with a very different bracket. Not to mention, the football team's resume and basketball team's resumes aren't even the same.

Now, Greg says at least two flights and I agree with him. However, I actually think the committee may have to stare down three-flights in the first weekend. Keep this in mind, if they can get a team to a site without a flight, they will. So Whitworth will head to Whitman. If two Texas teams get in, there is a chance they both fly somewhere, but the difference there is Whitman has far better criteria. Even with one loss, Whitman is in terrific shape to host the first weekend.

And fair warning, I don't see any way they host the second weekend. That said, we shall see what the bracket(s) look like in just over a week to know that for sure.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Regarding hosting, the Whitman women's team hosted both the Regional and Sectional in Walla Walla in 2014, for what it's worth.

That was an anomaly that worked in Whitman's favor thanks to Christopher Newport. That pod was destined to be at Thomas More because there was a team on the eastern side that could easily drive to Thomas More. However, CNU upset Ferrum causing all four teams to be more than 500 miles from each other. Whitman was the top regionally ranked team (and best criteria) of the entire group, so the decision to send teams there worked out.

In 2004, Puget Sound was able to host the second weekend on the men's side despite the fact there were three flights needed. Both Stevens Point's men's and women's team were in position to host, but being an "even" year that gave the priority to the women. The other two teams were Sul Ross and Lawrence, so two flights were needed anyway. The NCAA either allowed the third flight or Lawrence wasn't in position to host (I can't remember the particulars). Stevens Point came out of the weekend by beating Puget Sound in the first game and then Lawrence in the second game.

Glad you think WW is a lock, but we are the school that won the league in football and did not get a bid. 

WM deserves a home game.  However, it's a 3 hour drive from Spokane. The NCAA has not wanted p to make teams travel just to Spokane.  Now they have the Spokane flight and a 3 hour drive.

Whitman is basically a lock to not only get in the tournament, but host. They would at worst have a 2-1 head-to-head advantage over Whitworth, not to mention SOS, WL%, and other criteria. And as Greg stated, what happened in football doesn't matter... especially since when you won in football there was no AQ at the time for the league. That was a long time ago. And how tournament selections were done then is (a) not the same as now, (b) has no bearing on decisions now-a-days, and (c) is a completely different committee with a very different bracket. Not to mention, the football team's resume and basketball team's resumes aren't even the same.

Now, Greg says at least two flights and I agree with him. However, I actually think the committee may have to stare down three-flights in the first weekend. Keep this in mind, if they can get a team to a site without a flight, they will. So Whitworth will head to Whitman. If two Texas teams get in, there is a chance they both fly somewhere, but the difference there is Whitman has far better criteria. Even with one loss, Whitman is in terrific shape to host the first weekend.

And fair warning, I don't see any way they host the second weekend. That said, we shall see what the bracket(s) look like in just over a week to know that for sure.

Lawrence's gym wasn't big enough for sectionals in 04, if I recall, hence the NWC hosting duties.

[Titan Q]

Lawrence's gym wasn't big enough for sectionals in 04, if I recall, hence the NWC hosting duties.

Lawrence hosted a sectional in 2006, so that does not sound right.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Lawrence's gym wasn't big enough for sectionals in 04, if I recall, hence the NWC hosting duties.

Lawrence hosted a sectional in 2006, so that does not sound right.

Maybe they didn't put in to host?  There was some reason it couldn't go there, but I also recall some fiddling with the "required" seating numbers around that time, too.  Didn't they lower the number they wanted from 1500 to 1000 at some point?

[D O.C.]

"WM is having the best year a NWC team has ever had.  WW 2010 went undefeated in league and won the tournament, but had a couple preseason losses."

That's DIII talk.
Naw, naw.
I go back when LINFIELD went to the NAIA  playoff in Kansas City and lost in the 1st round every time.
10 years in the 60s.

They went undefeated in conference.
Some day again.

[Pat Coleman]

Lawrence's gym wasn't big enough for sectionals in 04, if I recall, hence the NWC hosting duties.

Lawrence hosted a sectional in 2006, so that does not sound right.

No, this was correct. Between 2004 and 2006, the championships committee started deciding that clearing the gym between games was a way to let slightly smaller facilities host.

[wildcat11]

2017 All-NWC Men's Basketball announced; Howell, Vickers and Rosenberg Earn Top Honors

First Team

G / Tim Howell, Whitman
G / JJ Lacey, George Fox
G / Kenny Love, Whitworth
F / Christian Jurlina, Whitworth
W / Jase Harrison, Whitman
G / Brandon Lester, Pacific Lutheran

Second Team

G / Austin Butler, Whitman
G / Kyle Maloof, Linfield
G / Kyle Roach, Whitworth
W / Jared Christy, Pacific Lutheran
G / Kohl Meyer, Puget Sound

Honorable Mention

G / Thomas Rico, George Fox
F / J.B. Ewell, Pacific
G / Joey Hewitt, Whitman
G / Andrew Vickers, Lewis & Clark
G / Riley Bruil, Linfield

Player of the Year  - Tim Howell, Whitman
Freshman of the Year  - Andrew Vickers, Lewis & Clark
Coach of the Year – Shanan Rosenberg, Linfield

http://www.nwcsports.com/sports/mbkb/2016-17/releases/All-NWC-MBSK17

[Pinecone_Curtain]

2017 All-NWC Men's Basketball announced; Howell, Vickers and Rosenberg Earn Top Honors

First Team

G / Tim Howell, Whitman
G / JJ Lacey, George Fox
G / Kenny Love, Whitworth
F / Christian Jurlina, Whitworth
W / Jase Harrison, Whitman
G / Brandon Lester, Pacific Lutheran

Player of the Year  - Tim Howell, Whitman
Freshman of the Year  - Andrew Vickers, Lewis & Clark
Coach of the Year – Shanan Rosenberg, Linfield

http://www.nwcsports.com/sports/mbkb/2016-17/releases/All-NWC-MBSK17

Well, I was close 

I got POY & 4/5 1st teamers right (had Roach instead of Love...and though I think Roach has been better, Love led the league in assists and it's sort of a lifetime achievement, so I won't argue with that selection). I was way off on COY. As good as Rose has been at rebuilding Linfield over the last 4 years, only one team has been great this year. So as much as I can't stand to say it, Bridge deserved COY. Anybody seen Blackhawk? I would have thought he'd be all over this board telling us how Bridge is the GOAT (or maybe 2nd GOAT to Popovich).

[(509)Rat]

I'm a huge fan of guy who does the most with the least getting COY. But in a year like this where the rest of the NWC was down, it would have taken a win against the Whits for me to pick Rosenberg over Bridgeland. They climbed up the ladder and did what they needed to against everyone else but went 0-4 against the eastern WA teams, that's not enough with the year Bridgeland and Whitman had IMO.

[wildcat11]

I'm a huge fan of guy who does the most with the least getting COY. But in a year like this where the rest of the NWC was down, it would have taken a win against the Whits for me to pick Rosenberg over Bridgeland. They climbed up the ladder and did what they needed to against everyone else but went 0-4 against the eastern WA teams, that's not enough with the year Bridgeland and Whitman had IMO.

I think that's fair but I'm not going to complain what Rosenberg has done and I think they will only continue to push forward as a program.  Congrats to both Whitworth and Whitman on their season and as they move forward in the NCAA's.

[D O.C.]

Kumbaya

[(509)Rat]

Whitworth and Whitman won. No surprises.

[(509)Rat]

White tied 36 at the half. This is a totally meaningless game but Whitworth needs to not get blown out again for their own psyche's sake. They'll be back again for a first round pod and will get one last shot at Whitman if they can win their first round game.

[Pinecone_Curtain]

Whitman and Whitworth are in OT.