MBB: Northwest Conference

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"I still think between Linfield, PLU, and Willamette PLU is the best team" -Pio 20

Why? 

Well they were the better team the first half of the season...they have really fallen apart down the stretch.

But we're not in the first half of the season anymore, they have the longest current losing streak in the conference.

I am definately agreeing with you NWCer, just trying to maybe understand Pio's reasoning.  PLU is a completely different team this half...not sure what really happened to them.

When I saw them play was when they were still winning, so perhaps my thought that they are the better team is no longer valid. Maybe I should say were the better team.

True...Its the same sort of thing, I only saw PLU play the 2 games against UPS and they looked like the one of the top 2 teams in the conference those games.  But their record speaks for itself.

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If you look at the stats from LC's game against Willamette, its quite interesting.  Tillery goes 14/19 scores 32 points.  Two of those misses are from 3-point so he only missed 3 shot inside the arch.  That is extemely efficient, usually the team that gets that type of preformance wins...yet LC loses the game.  I guess it could be because they only made 8/18 FTs. 

[NWCer]

I hear were you were coming from Pio20.  PLU was hot early on, but didn't they beat your Pios when Rivera and their transfer guard wasn't playing?  Not to harp on the PLU thing (especially since my Boxers have them this weekend at their place), but not only are they the only team to lose to Whitman, but they are the only other team other than Whitman NOT to beat one of the two top teams (Whitworth and UPS) in league at least once. 

I remember Christensen, solid player, but LC's play can't be blamed on him leaving, they still had plenty left, and were picked, once again, UNANIMOUSLY, to win it all, that means their coach voted for them as well, so they thought they were going to be champions.

[Pio20]

If you look at the stats from LC's game against Willamette, its quite interesting.  Tillery goes 14/19 scores 32 points.  Two of those misses are from 3-point so he only missed 3 shot inside the arch.  That is extemely efficient, usually the team that gets that type of preformance wins...yet LC loses the game.  I guess it could be because they only made 8/18 FTs. 

Or the 15% from three in the second half. But yeah the free throw shooting was sad. River airballed one and it was in his head the rest of the game. Went 0-4 his final four free throws. This is why I'm saying LC beat themselves against Willamette. It wasn't the Willamette  defense was amazing. The Pios just collapsed like always, on both sides of the floor. They gave up way too many offensive rebounds too.

[Pio20]

I hear were you were coming from Pio20.  PLU was hot early on, but didn't they beat your Pios when Rivera and their transfer guard wasn't playing?  Not to harp on the PLU thing (especially since my Boxers have them this weekend at their place), but not only are they the only team to lose to Whitman, but they are the only other team other than Whitman NOT to beat one of the two top teams (Whitworth and UPS) in league at least once. 

I remember Christensen, solid player, but LC's play can't be blamed on him leaving, they still had plenty left, and were picked, once again, UNANIMOUSLY, to win it all, that means their coach voted for them as well, so they thought they were going to be champions.

Yeah Rivera and Kollasch were out in that game. But they also beat us fair and square the second time. And yeah Christensen was solid but I don't think there was ever a thought that his leaving would mean LC not having success. Just didn't get it done.

[NWCer]

So since it's agreed that LC has all this talent, 4 returning all league players from a championship team, a ton of experience, along with some solid new guys.  Picked UNANIMOUSLY to come in first by the coaches, why the struggles?

When do you look at the coaches?

I could definitely see Gaillard leaving after this year. This was supposed to be "the year." Apparently he was going to stay until Jeff Christensen graduated, which would have been the end of this year, but he transferred.

I wasn't at all implying that a change should be made, the LC coach is a long time success and is a winner, and its great having someone of his background in the conference.  But that doesn't mean he's immune to simply having a "bad year", the way a player can have a bad year, coaches can too, and maybe this was just the case.

[Pio20]

So since it's agreed that LC has all this talent, 4 returning all league players from a championship team, a ton of experience, along with some solid new guys.  Picked UNANIMOUSLY to come in first by the coaches, why the struggles?

When do you look at the coaches?

I could definitely see Gaillard leaving after this year. This was supposed to be "the year." Apparently he was going to stay until Jeff Christensen graduated, which would have been the end of this year, but he transferred.

I wasn't at all implying that a change should be made, the LC coach is a long time success and is a winner, and its great having someone of his background in the conference.  But that doesn't mean he's immune to simply having a "bad year", the way a player can have a bad year, coaches can too, and maybe this was just the case.

There has been talk of him leaving previous to this year though. So I wouldn't be suprised. I don't think he needs to go at all though. I think he has done a great job.

[NWCer]

So since it's agreed that LC has all this talent, 4 returning all league players from a championship team, a ton of experience, along with some solid new guys.  Picked UNANIMOUSLY to come in first by the coaches, why the struggles?

When do you look at the coaches?

I could definitely see Gaillard leaving after this year. This was supposed to be "the year." Apparently he was going to stay until Jeff Christensen graduated, which would have been the end of this year, but he transferred.

I wasn't at all implying that a change should be made, the LC coach is a long time success and is a winner, and its great having someone of his background in the conference.  But that doesn't mean he's immune to simply having a "bad year", the way a player can have a bad year, coaches can too, and maybe this was just the case.

There has been talk of him leaving previous to this year though. So I wouldn't be suprised. I don't think he needs to go at all though. I think he has done a great job.

Yeah I think you want to hold on to him.  From what I hear it's tough to be a winner at LC and he has done that.  If he goes does Bigfella get the job?

[Pio20]

I would say 99% chance he gets it.

[NWCer]

Great odds for him.  It sounds like you're close to the situation there, how do you think he'll do?

[Pio20]

It's hard to say. He is a great recruiter but a lot of the players don't care for him. I think right now as an assistant his main role is to motivate, which sometimes means him just yelling at the players. But I think if he stepped up he would have more strategy to take care of and hopefully there would be more teaching on the sidelines as supposed to yelling. He is also very intense, which I like. I don't think I've ever seen Gaillard get fired up.

[bbaddict]

So ... who's the hater who's dinkin with my Karma?  Just because I'm the only one on this board rooting for the Bearcats --- what's the story?

[Pio20]

So ... who's the hater who's dinkin with my Karma?  Just because I'm the only one on this board rooting for the Bearcats --- what's the story?

How do you control karma?

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I hear were you were coming from Pio20.  PLU was hot early on, but didn't they beat your Pios when Rivera and their transfer guard wasn't playing?  Not to harp on the PLU thing (especially since my Boxers have them this weekend at their place), but not only are they the only team to lose to Whitman, but they are the only other team other than Whitman NOT to beat one of the two top teams (Whitworth and UPS) in league at least once. 

I remember Christensen, solid player, but LC's play can't be blamed on him leaving, they still had plenty left, and were picked, once again, UNANIMOUSLY, to win it all, that means their coach voted for them as well, so they thought they were going to be champions.

Yeah Rivera and Kollasch were out in that game. But they also beat us fair and square the second time. And yeah Christensen was solid but I don't think there was ever a thought that his leaving would mean LC not having success. Just didn't get it done.

True, but you see it all the time on sports teams.  One guy leaves and the team just isn't the same.  Or a team brings in one player...maybe not a great player, but one that turns the team around because of his presence in the locker room.  These guys are oten overlooked, but just have a way of bringing guys together and keeping everyone happy and on the same page.

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It's hard to say. He is a great recruiter but a lot of the players don't care for him. I think right now as an assistant his main role is to motivate, which sometimes means him just yelling at the players. But I think if he stepped up he would have more strategy to take care of and hopefully there would be more teaching on the sidelines as supposed to yelling. He is also very intense, which I like. I don't think I've ever seen Gaillard get fired up.

I would have thought that Gaillard was a really firey guy.  I thought he seemed pretty intense on the sideline.