MBB: Northwest Conference

LogShow · February 23, 2008, 01:37:27 PM

But they still have to earn their trip to the national tournament

nwhoops1903 · February 23, 2008, 01:38:16 PM

Quote from: pineconefan on February 23, 2008, 03:22:14 AM
I know folks could make solid cases for Coach James and even Coach Doty, but how does Jim Hayford not get NWC Coach of the Year this season based on the above?

And if Symes gets Player of the Year, that will be three straight Pirates (all different) getting that award - Pecht, Williams and Symes.

He has done an amazing job this year. Replacing an entire 3 man senior backcourt and POTY with a transfer and frosh, then losing his post for the second half of season. The award should be on his door step this morning.

nwhoops1903 · February 23, 2008, 01:38:40 PM

Quote from: LogShow on February 23, 2008, 01:37:27 PM
But they still have to earn their trip to the national tournament

Indeed

Chuck_Curtis · February 23, 2008, 01:42:03 PM

Congrats to Whitworth for taking home another championships, but I'm bummed the tournament is in Spokane, it's so far away. The PLU-Linfield game last night was very good. It looked like PLU was pulling away from Linfield in OT but the Wildcats kept finding ways to hang in there. PLU is 4-2 in OT games this season. Honestly I would rather be 2-4 in if the two wins were against UPS, but what are you going to do. I'm looking forward to see how the standings end up tonight. Good luck everyone

LogShow · February 23, 2008, 02:07:16 PM

PLU did push UPS to the brink both times this year. That's crazy PLU has had 6 OT games this year...I thought the 4 of UPS was a lot.

LogShow · February 23, 2008, 02:09:14 PM

Quote from: nwhoops1903 on February 23, 2008, 01:38:16 PM
Quote from: pineconefan on February 23, 2008, 03:22:14 AM
I know folks could make solid cases for Coach James and even Coach Doty, but how does Jim Hayford not get NWC Coach of the Year this season based on the above?

And if Symes gets Player of the Year, that will be three straight Pirates (all different) getting that award - Pecht, Williams and Symes.

He has done an amazing job this year. Replacing an entire 3 man senior backcourt and POTY with a transfer and frosh, then losing his post for the second half of season. The award should be on his door step this morning.

I will be much more interested in talking about awards and POY after the regualr season finishes up tonight.

NWCer · February 23, 2008, 02:43:32 PM

How could the player of the year NOT be Symes. I think its as easy a choice as Hayford for Coach of the year. Who are the other players on first team? That's the question.

bbaddict · February 23, 2008, 03:59:55 PM

5.1.1 The champion will be the winner of the NWC championship
basketball tournament. (Adopted Spring 2004)

Do you people read? I know most of you went to college or are still there! I don't care what "tradition" says -- this is from the Governance section of the NWC site. I don't write this crap -- I just find it & read it and sometimes it's confusing! Just for the record, there is usually a lot of incorrect assumptions about the whole crazy tie breaker thing this time of year as well.

"Coach Hayford should be Coach of the Year" --- agreed! It's also his first year without his co-coach, Rodney Wecker. He did an outstanding job and deserves to be honored for it.

Just on a side note. If Whitworth doesn't win the NWC Championship game -- it won't matter because they won't go to the NCAA playoffs as our automatic bid. That's what I'm talking about so don't treat me like I'm stupid.

LogShow · February 23, 2008, 04:28:06 PM

Quote from: NWCer on February 23, 2008, 02:43:32 PM
How could the player of the year NOT be Symes. I think its as easy a choice as Hayford for Coach of the year. Who are the other players on first team? That's the question.

Agreed about Symes. But I do think Coach James deserves some consideration. He has gotten the most out of the least. Dont they only suit up like 9 players? They have really turned it around in conference play. He has squeezed every drop of potential out of his kids. Hayford has done great job, but he had loads more talent to work with (Symes, Williamson, and a really solid/polished JC kid in Nakamura)

LogShow · February 23, 2008, 04:34:52 PM

Quote from: bbaddict on February 23, 2008, 03:59:55 PM
5.1.1 The champion will be the winner of the NWC championship
basketball tournament. (Adopted Spring 2004)

Do you people read? I know most of you went to college or are still there! I don't care what "tradition" says -- this is from the Governance section of the NWC site. I don't write this crap -- I just find it & read it and sometimes it's confusing! Just for the record, there is usually a lot of incorrect assumptions about the whole crazy tie breaker thing this time of year as well.

"Coach Hayford should be Coach of the Year" --- agreed! It's also his first year without his co-coach, Rodney Wecker. He did an outstanding job and deserves to be honored for it.

Just on a side note. If Whitworth doesn't win the NWC Championship game -- it won't matter because they won't go to the NCAA playoffs as our automatic bid. That's what I'm talking about so don't treat me like I'm stupid.

Hey addict ,

I got some new stuff for you to try...its called a chill pill.

Take a deep breath and relax! You are getting all worked up and defensive but nobody has even criticized you yet.

nwhoops1903 · February 23, 2008, 04:41:20 PM

bbaddict please explain why the NWC conference would call LC and WW co-champs this year in preseason if those changes were adopted in 2004?

Please accept the informed opinion that the regular season DOES matter.

And by no means did anyone call you stupid. You are just being to black and white with your 5.1 governance rule. Did you read the rest of my post?

nwhoops1903 · February 23, 2008, 04:43:50 PM

Quote from: LogShow on February 23, 2008, 04:28:06 PM
Agreed about Symes. But I do think Coach James deserves some consideration. He has gotten the most out of the least. Dont they only suit up like 9 players? They have really turned it around in conference play. He has squeezed every drop of potential out of his kids. Hayford has done great job, but he had loads more talent to work with (Symes, Williamson, and a really solid/polished JC kid in Nakamura)

You took the bait. What happened to waiting til after tonight? Did you dink my Karma Log after you said you wouldn't? lol

LogShow · February 23, 2008, 04:45:09 PM

I know...hook line and sinker!!!

bbaddict · February 23, 2008, 04:45:34 PM

Hey Logshow -- it's against the rules to deal drugs on this site.

On another note, I agree with you about Coach James, but for different reasons. He has a way of coaching all players to step up and play as a team, he's not just managing super stars. For everyone who thinks WU is a no talent team, I'd say look at their stats!

Isn't it usual for the COTY to go to the coach with the team who has the best W/L record? If that's the case, then it should be Hayford for sure!

NWhoops -- I can't explain why anything is written the way it is on the NWC site -- that's why I was confused in the first place! I'm just going with what's written.

Ask the Patriots how muich the regular season MATTERS!! It's all about the big game or the big dance!

LogShow · February 23, 2008, 04:46:00 PM

And no I didn't dink your Karma. Scouts honor, I am a man of my word