MBB: Northwest Conference

[nwhoops1903]

Pio are you gonna hang around now that your team is done?  It has been nice to get your thoughts, even if they are about how LC finished 15-9.  No one saw that record coming.  Tough season to endure as a fan.

[LogShow]

Pio are you gonna hang around now that your team is done?  It has been nice to get your thoughts, even if they are about how LC finished 15-9.  No one saw that record coming.  Tough season to endure as a fan.

I agree, Pio20 I hope you stick around the board.  I have enjoyed your thoughts and insight.  LC had a tough season...a roller coaster ride for sure.

[Pio20]

Pio are you gonna hang around now that your team is done?  It has been nice to get your thoughts, even if they are about how LC finished 15-9.  No one saw that record coming.  Tough season to endure as a fan.

I agree, Pio20 I hope you stick around the board.  I have enjoyed your thoughts and insight.  LC had a tough season...a roller coaster ride for sure.

Oh yeah I'll be here. It was definitely a tough season to endure and it's obviously more fun to contribute to the boards when your team is playing better but I still enjoy NWC basketball as a whole and the Pios will be back next year and they should be decent if Kollasch, Berggren, and Papenfuss stay.

[NWCer]

Just interested Pio20 on why you say "if" in regards to those LC guys returning?  Is their return in question?  And what about Allen?

[LogShow]

Just thought I would throw up the final conference standings:

WW 12-4
UPS 11-5
LC 9-7
Wil 9-7
Lin 9-7
Pac 9-7
PLU 7-9
Fox 5-11
Whit 1-15

[Pio20]

Just interested Pio20 on why you say "if" in regards to those LC guys returning?  Is their return in question?  And what about Allen?

Yeah I know Berrgren and Kollasch are considering transferring. Papenfuss I think will stay. Allen was definitely unhappy with his PT this year but I think he will get a lot more next year since Robinowitz and Toboni will be gone. I think if one stays they all do. Also, if Gaillard leaves it could cause some exodus. Not many of the guys like Dinari. I just hope Papenfuss stays because without we will definitely turn back into a 7-9 team that does literally nothing but shoot threes.

[nwhoops1903]

Just interested Pio20 on why you say "if" in regards to those LC guys returning?  Is their return in question?  And what about Allen?

Yeah I know Berrgren and Kollasch are considering transferring. Papenfuss I think will stay. Allen was definitely unhappy with his PT this year but I think he will get a lot more next year since Robinowitz and Toboni will be gone. I think if one stays they all do. Also, if Gaillard leaves it could cause some exodus. Not many of the guys like Dinari. I just hope Papenfuss stays because without we will definitely turn back into a 7-9 team that does literally nothing but shoot threes.

Sounds like LC will be a team to keep an eye on during the off season.
On other notes:  Bridgeland will not take over at Pepperdine.  http://www.pepperdinesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=90183&SPID=10851&DB_OEM_ID=18500&ATCLID=1392807

[NWCer]

Thanks Pio20, that's some juicy inside info, why is it that they dont like bigfella and what are the players reasons for considering transfering?

[LogShow]

Just interested Pio20 on why you say "if" in regards to those LC guys returning?  Is their return in question?  And what about Allen?

Yeah I know Berrgren and Kollasch are considering transferring. Papenfuss I think will stay. Allen was definitely unhappy with his PT this year but I think he will get a lot more next year since Robinowitz and Toboni will be gone. I think if one stays they all do. Also, if Gaillard leaves it could cause some exodus. Not many of the guys like Dinari. I just hope Papenfuss stays because without we will definitely turn back into a 7-9 team that does literally nothing but shoot threes.

That's interesting that they are considering transfer.  Aren't all of them Jrs?  That would only give them one year of eligibility...that doesn't seem worth it.

Living and Dying by the 3 = Great Risk & Great Reward

[nwhoops1903]

I am afraid PIO could probably fill 3 pages with LC hoop drama from 2008.  So ABOUT the games this weekend, the win 3x hurdle is for WIL vs UPS as well as if UPS gets tp play WW on Sat.

UPS swept WIL (barely).  I think WIL wanted to avenge that home loss badly just as they did by winning at WW.  Hosting the Thu game could have been huge, but more so UPS would have been way back on their heels after losing 3 straight.  I doubt UPS will show up Thu. feeling over confident.

I think the key to the game is 3 pt shooting and specifically Marsh, the catch and shoot kid.  Has he ever shot off the dribble?  He had a real good first half Sat.  Had he not started off well, more pressure shifts to A. Williams.  Williams is a second half performer and if POTY was based only on second half stats he might be unanimous.  Foster is streaky from 3 but then Wood, Boyce and even Krauel can connect when needed.  UPS hit 54% from 3 Sat.  That's 20% better than they had been shooting in Conf. entering Sats game.  So back to Marsh, he hits early, his teammates will not feel pressure to pick him up and UPS most likely gets their tempo game as well.   

[LogShow]

Hoops were you at the game yesterday?  Also, your karma gets bumped and you question me...now it gets rasied and I get no thanks?

I think the last thing UPS is feeling is overconfident

[Pio20]

Kollasch is a sophomore. Berrgren is a junior. You have to keep in mind we are graduating 7 seniors, all of whom were pretty tight-knit off the court. Take them away and you leave Kollasch and Bergrren with a program that has little else to build off of. In the rarefied liberal air of LC its not easy to be a basketball player. You stick out and you stay together, so when you start to lose people you maybe start to question if you want to be here. In addition, this was supposed to be "the year." It didn't happen and everyone is disappointed. Some of the players don't like Dinari because he is very two-faced. As a recruiter he seems extremely inviting and enthusiastic but then once you get here you see that he is anything but. He has many facades, and players need to know what their coach actually stands for instead of always questioning him. He is by no means a bad guy, but he can come across as wonderful one minute and hate you the next. 

[LogShow]

I would say that can be common for some coaches.  They will act like your best friend and do anything to get you to come to their school...but once you step on campus all bets are off

[nwhoops1903]

Hoops were you at the game yesterday?  Also, your karma gets bumped and you question me...now it gets rasied and I get no thanks?

I think the last thing UPS is feeling is overconfident

No I decided to pass.  I am expecting to be there this week at both games.  I think not being overconfident should help UPS play more urgently.  That whole big bad UPS routine doesn't work like it once did.  Being ranked this year probably hurt them.  Now that they know they aren't THAT good, they might just play like they know they need to earn it.  Tough game Thu.  I am picking UPS to lose to a very disciplined and methodical Wilamette offense and 1 shot defense but not by much.  Wil might be up 12-15 with 4 minutes and UPS will somehow have a shot to win or tie...but miss.

[LogShow]

Yeah I am not really sure what UPS's deal was this year, maybe it was some overconfidence and expecting to just show up and the other team will let them win.  I think UPS will be ready to go and play much better then they did this past weekend.  The game on Saturday could have been a 20 point win for the Logs.  I thought UPS had the game in the bag...but then they let Willamette back in instead of slamming the door shut.  I do think it will be a tough competitive game though, but it will be too much for Willamette and UPS will come out on top, earning the right to play in Spokane.