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nwhoops1903

Quote from: LogShow on March 09, 2008, 03:49:56 PM
WW is heading to Holland, MI.  Should be an interesting trip...Nice that they, have a neutral first game, and don't have to play the home team.  But Wheaton isn't too far away, I suppose they will travel well.  Will WW?
I hope WW gets some travelers.  What a great weekend for Pirate hoops coming up.  I think we are playing with tremendous confidence and should have a great shot against Wheaton.  The neutral court will help erase last years game vs Washngton at their court that we lost by a bucket.  On a neutral court, I think we would have won that game. 
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LogShow

Quote from: Pio20 on March 09, 2008, 09:50:29 PM
This is clearly overshadowed by the NCAA tournament at hand, but nonetheless interesting to know. Word on the street is Gaillard will be back. That makes me think Berrgren, Kollasch, and Papenfuss will be back as well.  Also word is there are two JUCO transfers on the way. Big men. Also, possibly a really good freshman guard from Oakland.

That's interesting, thanks Pio!  I was inder the impression that if Gaillard was back then those 3 were out...guess I was wrong, especially because of Berrgren's lack of playing time at the end of the season.

LC's getting two more big men?  Are they finally getting away from the 3-frenzy approach?

LogShow

Yeah sounds like WW is really playing tough.

NWhoops, now its time to dig up the dirt on Wheaton...let me know what you get.

(I wouldn't mind doing it myself, but I assume you would enjoy it much more being that your team is the one playing...didn't want to steal your thunder) :)

Pio20

Quote from: LogShow on March 09, 2008, 10:41:57 PM
Quote from: Pio20 on March 09, 2008, 09:50:29 PM
This is clearly overshadowed by the NCAA tournament at hand, but nonetheless interesting to know. Word on the street is Gaillard will be back. That makes me think Berrgren, Kollasch, and Papenfuss will be back as well.  Also word is there are two JUCO transfers on the way. Big men. Also, possibly a really good freshman guard from Oakland.

That's interesting, thanks Pio!  I was inder the impression that if Gaillard was back then those 3 were out...guess I was wrong, especially because of Berrgren's lack of playing time at the end of the season.

LC's getting two more big men?  Are they finally getting away from the 3-frenzy approach?

I wouldn't get too excited..haha. Berrgren and Allen love the threes. And obviously none of the recruits are for sure yet, but that's what I have heard so far. I worry about a repeat of this year though, with too much talent translating into inconsistent minutes.

nwhoops1903

Quote from: LogShow on March 09, 2008, 10:46:28 PM
Yeah sounds like WW is really playing tough.

NWhoops, now its time to dig up the dirt on Wheaton...let me know what you get.

(I wouldn't mind doing it myself, but I assume you would enjoy it much more being that your team is the one playing...didn't want to steal your thunder) :)
Wheaton has a legitimate 1st team All American in Raymond.  That's a tough assignment regardless of the other 4 on the court.  When we played Ruths from Washington last year, we did a half decent job but he still hung a nice game on us.  I think we are better this year on the interior.  If Jurichs can play against Raymond the way he did against Foster, we can win easily.  That being said, our post finally played last night without favoring an ankle and played with confidence and could be a huge boost for us next weekend.  We beat Wheaton last year at Wheaton.  We were happy and surprised about that result and it boosted our rankings but preseason games are so overrated.  WW is playing very good.  Wheaton slid in the tourney and have proven they belong, hats off.  They are on tourney roll and won't be considered an underdog against the Pirates.  That could change things.
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Quote from: LogShow on March 09, 2008, 10:41:57 PM
Quote from: Pio20 on March 09, 2008, 09:50:29 PM
This is clearly overshadowed by the NCAA tournament at hand, but nonetheless interesting to know. Word on the street is Gaillard will be back. That makes me think Berrgren, Kollasch, and Papenfuss will be back as well.  Also word is there are two JUCO transfers on the way. Big men. Also, possibly a really good freshman guard from Oakland.

That's interesting, thanks Pio!  I was inder the impression that if Gaillard was back then those 3 were out...guess I was wrong, especially because of Berrgren's lack of playing time at the end of the season.

LC's getting two more big men?  Are they finally getting away from the 3-frenzy approach?

I think Papenfuss has to stay at LC, because he's married and his wife goes to school there.  I heard that he actually was quite impressed with UPS and what they had to offer, but got married and went to LC instead!

They're losing a lot of people to graduation, but I think their coach will re-build.  I thought some of those players were going to leave if Gaillard didn't return, because they didn't like the heir apparent?   Maybe I misunderstood.

nwhoops1903

Quote from: Old School.... (Tom Doebler) on March 09, 2008, 11:46:02 PM
Weile lit up Lawrence in the first game...but didn't shoot much vs. Loras.  I think Weile still had double-digit rebounds.
Thanks.  Appreciate it.  Looks like the other guard shoots the 3 pretty well.
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Mr. Ypsi

Wheaton has Raymond, but they are not a one-man team.  Andy Wiele was the main force against Lawrence (28 pts, 11 rbs) with Ben Panner also contributing 22 pts.  They hung in despite Raymond having a horrible night the first 35 minutes (though he OWNED the last 5 of regulation and the OT - going from 6 to 23 points over that span).  Their only other threat is a freshman, Jahns, who is capable of 2 or 18, depending on the night.

Bottom line: one superstar, two excellent players, a streaky freshman, and not much else.  If Wiele gets in foul trouble (and he sometimes does), their inside game is kaput.

nwhoops1903

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on March 10, 2008, 12:28:43 AM
Wheaton has Raymond, but they are not a one-man team.  Andy Wiele was the main force against Lawrence (28 pts, 11 rbs) with Ben Panner also contributing 22 pts.  They hung in despite Raymond having a horrible night the first 35 minutes (though he OWNED the last 5 of regulation and the OT - going from 6 to 23 points over that span).  Their only other threat is a freshman, Jahns, who is capable of 2 or 18, depending on the night.

Bottom line: one superstar, two excellent players, a streaky freshman, and not much else.  If Wiele gets in foul trouble (and he sometimes does), their inside game is kaput.
Thanks for the insight.  Looking forward to Holland..isn't that veird! ;) :P :D
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Pio20

Quote from: bbaddict on March 10, 2008, 12:20:54 AM
Quote from: LogShow on March 09, 2008, 10:41:57 PM
Quote from: Pio20 on March 09, 2008, 09:50:29 PM
This is clearly overshadowed by the NCAA tournament at hand, but nonetheless interesting to know. Word on the street is Gaillard will be back. That makes me think Berrgren, Kollasch, and Papenfuss will be back as well.  Also word is there are two JUCO transfers on the way. Big men. Also, possibly a really good freshman guard from Oakland.

That's interesting, thanks Pio!  I was inder the impression that if Gaillard was back then those 3 were out...guess I was wrong, especially because of Berrgren's lack of playing time at the end of the season.

LC's getting two more big men?  Are they finally getting away from the 3-frenzy approach?

I think Papenfuss has to stay at LC, because he's married and his wife goes to school there.  I heard that he actually was quite impressed with UPS and what they had to offer, but got married and went to LC instead!

They're losing a lot of people to graduation, but I think their coach will re-build.  I thought some of those players were going to leave if Gaillard didn't return, because they didn't like the heir apparent?   Maybe I misunderstood.

Yeah I though they might leave because they don't like Dinari, but since he is staying I think they will. I didn't know Papenfuss' wife goes here too. There will definitely be some transfers coming in. That is for sure.

LogShow

Quote from: nwhoops1903 on March 09, 2008, 11:43:19 PM
Quote from: LogShow on March 09, 2008, 10:46:28 PM
Yeah sounds like WW is really playing tough.

NWhoops, now its time to dig up the dirt on Wheaton...let me know what you get.

(I wouldn't mind doing it myself, but I assume you would enjoy it much more being that your team is the one playing...didn't want to steal your thunder) :)
Wheaton has a legitimate 1st team All American in Raymond.  That's a tough assignment regardless of the other 4 on the court.  When we played Ruths from Washington last year, we did a half decent job but he still hung a nice game on us.  I think we are better this year on the interior.  If Jurichs can play against Raymond the way he did against Foster, we can win easily.  That being said, our post finally played last night without favoring an ankle and played with confidence and could be a huge boost for us next weekend.  We beat Wheaton last year at Wheaton.  We were happy and surprised about that result and it boosted our rankings but preseason games are so overrated.  WW is playing very good.  Wheaton slid in the tourney and have proven they belong, hats off.  They are on tourney roll and won't be considered an underdog against the Pirates.  That could change things.

Jurich did do a great job defending Foster in Tacoma, and made him work for the points he got.  I don't know but I would guess that Raymond is probably more a a true post/down low player then Foster is.  Foster is much more finesse and doesn't embrace the contact down low.  That will be a huge help if Montgomery could put in some quality mins.

Gregory Sager

Quote from: nwhoops1903 on March 09, 2008, 11:43:19 PMWe beat Wheaton last year at Wheaton.  We were happy and surprised about that result and it boosted our rankings but preseason games are so overrated.

It wasn't a preseason game. It was a regular-season game. It counted.
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LogShow

Quote from: bbaddict on March 10, 2008, 12:20:54 AM
Quote from: LogShow on March 09, 2008, 10:41:57 PM
Quote from: Pio20 on March 09, 2008, 09:50:29 PM
This is clearly overshadowed by the NCAA tournament at hand, but nonetheless interesting to know. Word on the street is Gaillard will be back. That makes me think Berrgren, Kollasch, and Papenfuss will be back as well.  Also word is there are two JUCO transfers on the way. Big men. Also, possibly a really good freshman guard from Oakland.

That's interesting, thanks Pio!  I was inder the impression that if Gaillard was back then those 3 were out...guess I was wrong, especially because of Berrgren's lack of playing time at the end of the season.

LC's getting two more big men?  Are they finally getting away from the 3-frenzy approach?

I think Papenfuss has to stay at LC, because he's married and his wife goes to school there.  I heard that he actually was quite impressed with UPS and what they had to offer, but got married and went to LC instead!

They're losing a lot of people to graduation, but I think their coach will re-build.  I thought some of those players were going to leave if Gaillard didn't return, because they didn't like the heir apparent?   Maybe I misunderstood.

That would have been great if UPS could have landed Papenfuss.  He didn't get a ton of mins against UPS, but looking at the  box scores he put up some pretty good numbers.  Oh well :)

LogShow

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on March 10, 2008, 12:28:43 AM
Wheaton has Raymond, but they are not a one-man team.  Andy Wiele was the main force against Lawrence (28 pts, 11 rbs) with Ben Panner also contributing 22 pts.  They hung in despite Raymond having a horrible night the first 35 minutes (though he OWNED the last 5 of regulation and the OT - going from 6 to 23 points over that span).  Their only other threat is a freshman, Jahns, who is capable of 2 or 18, depending on the night.

Bottom line: one superstar, two excellent players, a streaky freshman, and not much else.  If Wiele gets in foul trouble (and he sometimes does), their inside game is kaput.

Is he talking about WW?  ;) :D

Sounds like the teams are pretty similar in that sense...WW never really seemed to get in foul trouble though...