2011 Basketball Tournament TOP LEFT BRACKET discussion board

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(509)Rat

Quote from: fantastic50 on March 07, 2011, 08:10:34 PM
if Marietta upsets Whitworth on Friday evening, then they'll bring a bunch with them on Saturday.

Nobody wants that... ;D

oldchap

My report on the Chapman - Witworth game has just been posted in the West Region Independent forum:

http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=5506.105


nwhoops1903

Getting closer to games Friday.  Looking back, Wooster and Marietta both survived seriously close games to advance. 

Marietta looked vulnerable inside against Wittenburg but fought back from 9 down.  The 3 from Puch was huge.  How did that shot/play develop in 10 seconds?

Wooster survived low scoring game with Manchester in what appears to be a poor shooting game or excellent defense game that Wooster was 29 points below their season average?  16 turnovers by the Scots could lead to some real problems this weekend vs Cabrini.  Can Wooster play that way (Franks 4-16) on Friday and win?  Doubtful.
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(509)Rat

Scotsfan,

Any word on students sticking around for games this weekend? I remember you saying they were on break...looks like Marietta will bring at least a bus-load of students for the Whitworth game.

I think Wooster shakes off the rust and beats Cabrini soundly, much like several of the top ranked teams did in the second round after first round scares

Marietta just didn't look that good against Wittenberg...very comparable to Chapman. A long swingman (Halter) although Halter shoots from outside much better than J Riley, he isn't nearly as athletic. An undersized post (Knab and Kilpatrick) although Knab appears to be much more of an offensive threat than Consani from Chapman. and a guard that can create his own shots (Hammond). Again, you take away two guys and Marietta should struggle, much like Chapman did without Riley and Ramme.

I still like the way Whitworth matches up. I think Mike Taylor gives up a little size and guards Halter. Stick Riley on Humphrey and the Gebbers brothers take Owens and Hammond, and Felix will guard Knab. Again, Loofburrow can come in and relieve Felix, Riley, or one of the Gebbers and Whitworth should still match up fine.


imderekpoe


89Pirate

Quote from: imderekpoe on March 08, 2011, 01:58:51 PM
Quote from: 89Pirate on March 08, 2011, 01:56:10 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on March 07, 2011, 10:31:56 PM
Here's a link to Wooster's Sectional Tournament information page.
Will they be broadcasting/streaming the Whitworth/Marietta game as well?

I believe that the article states that there will be live video/audio of all three games.
That is good, cause I already took the afternoon off from work, would hate to have to lie about 'watching' the game.

nwhoops1903

The link to video is on the sectional page.  But here you go,

http://www.teamline.cc/sportpage?teamcode=1100&eventcode=6

Real question is Castle broadcasting?  No Audio link...
NWC fan

89Pirate

Quote from: nwhoops1903 on March 08, 2011, 02:02:15 PM
The link to video is on the sectional page.  But here you go,

http://www.teamline.cc/sportpage?teamcode=1100&eventcode=6

Real question is Castle broadcasting?  No Audio link...
Yes, Castle is going.  Audio will be available locally on KSBN 1230 as always.

ScotsFan

Quote from: nwhoops1903 on March 08, 2011, 12:34:50 PM
Getting closer to games Friday.  Looking back, Wooster and Marietta both survived seriously close games to advance. 

Marietta looked vulnerable inside against Wittenburg but fought back from 9 down.  The 3 from Puch was huge.  How did that shot/play develop in 10 seconds?

Wooster survived low scoring game with Manchester in what appears to be a poor shooting game or excellent defense game that Wooster was 29 points below their season average?  16 turnovers by the Scots could lead to some real problems this weekend vs Cabrini.  Can Wooster play that way (Franks 4-16) on Friday and win?  Doubtful.


I just think the Wooster/Manchester game was more of a case of two teams playing some excellent defense in a game where the officials were allowing things to get a bit physical which also favors the defenses.  Also, Wooster does place an emphasis on defense as evidenced by their 3rd best defensive fg% in the country.  And while Wooster may have been 29 points below their average, Manchester wasn't much better coming up 27 points short of their average.

Also, Manchester was better than I think many are giving them credit for.  They had won 12 in a row coming into that Wooster game.  Only Stevens Point has a longer win streak in D3. 

And I also think Wooster looked a little bit tight.  Knowing the opportunity that laid ahead, I think Wooster may have been playing with the added pressure of knowing that if they won, they would probably be hosting the next weekend and what a golden opportunity they would be wasting if they lost. 

As for the question regarding whether Wooster can play like they did vs. Manchester with another 4-16 performance by Ian Franks and win on Friday?  I would say, why not?  The Scots already proved they can play poorly and win vs. a good Manchester team.  Hopefully, we don't have to find out and Wooster will come out and play much better vs. Cabrini.   8-)

One thing I will agree with you on is your comment regarding turnovers.  Wooster has been plagued ALL season by committing far too many turnovers and many are of the unforced variety, i.e. lazy, errant passes and careless ballhandling.  Cabrini appears to be a team that likes to pressure the ball handler creating steals and turnovers.  One thing I will agree with you on is your comment regarding turnovers.  Wooster has been plagued ALL season by committing far too many turnovers and many are of the unforced variety, i.e. lazy, errant passes and careless ballhandling.  Cabrini appears to be a team that likes to pressure the ball handler creating steals and turnovers.  IMO, turovers will be more of a determinant as to whether or not Wooster can advance to Saturday more than anything else.  If Wooster can limit their turnovers to under 15, I like their chances.  The closer they get to 20 or more, the less I like their chances.

As for the tip-off game Friday night, I'm very intrigued by this matchup.  Even though Marietta is within close proximity to Wooster, I know virtually nothing about them except for the fact that they have been winning a TON of close games.  Not once, not twice, but FOUR times Marietta has eeked out a win with a basket in the closing seconds of games this season including the OAC Championship game and last Saturday's tournament win vs. Witt.  Just one word of advice.  If your Pirates are in a tight one and Marietta has the last possession with a chance to win, you'd better hope that the ball doesn't end up in either Trevor Halter's or Tyler Hammond's hands...  ;)

BTW, are you making the trek east to Wooster this weekend?  How many WW fans can we expect?  I saw on Marietta's website they already have at least one charter bus lined up so I'm expecting them to bring a pretty big crowd.  Not sure on how many Cabrini will bring.  Manchester had a pretty large contingent last weekend as well.


Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)


Cabrini didn't even fill their own gym for the Friday game (I didn't attend Saturday, but with students on break, its doubtful).  You probably won't see too many Cabrini faithful there.

Cabrini plays smart.  Their lack of mistakes and unreal discipline is what gives me a little fear about them playing Wooster.  Woo tends to keep games close (due to the tight defense) and Cabrini's had a knack for really kicking it up a notch at the end of games.

Lazy passes will turn into points against Cabrini.  One of the things that really impressed me about Cabrini was how they turned up the intensity (and the ball pressure) at the end of the game, when the other team was tired and riding on adrenaline.  Lots of late turnovers forced.

I'm hoping to watch this matchup Friday.  I'm probably more excited about this one than any of the others.
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ScotsFan

Quote from: 89Pirate on March 08, 2011, 01:56:10 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on March 07, 2011, 10:31:56 PM
Here's a link to Wooster's Sectional Tournament information page.
Will they be broadcasting/streaming the Whitworth/Marietta game as well?

As long as there are no technical difficulties?!   :P   ;D

Wooster got an earful from fans because they had technical difficultes arise that weren't a quick fix and thus had no online video available for the NCAC semis and finals at Wooster. 

But, they were able to get everything up and running again prior to last weekend's games and they did provide online video of all 3 games (I was able to cacth the 1st half of the Manchester/Bethany game online before I headed up to the hill to catch the remainder of that game in person as well as the Wooster nightcap.  So, I would assume the same should be expected this weekend barring any mishaps.

nwhoops1903

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Quote from: ScotsFan on March 08, 2011, 02:28:13 PM
Quote from: nwhoops1903 on March 08, 2011, 12:34:50 PM
Getting closer to games Friday.  Looking back, Wooster and Marietta both survived seriously close games to advance.  

Marietta looked vulnerable inside against Wittenburg but fought back from 9 down.  The 3 from Puch was huge.  How did that shot/play develop in 10 seconds?

Wooster survived low scoring game with Manchester in what appears to be a poor shooting game or excellent defense game that Wooster was 29 points below their season average?  16 turnovers by the Scots could lead to some real problems this weekend vs Cabrini.  Can Wooster play that way (Franks 4-16) on Friday and win?  Doubtful.

As for the tip-off game Friday night, I'm very intrigued by this matchup.  Even though Marietta is within close proximity to Wooster, I know virtually nothing about them except for the fact that they have been winning a TON of close games.  Not once, not twice, but FOUR times Marietta has eeked out a win with a basket in the closing seconds of games this season including the OAC Championship game and last Saturday's tournament win vs. Witt.  Just one word of advice.  If your Pirates are in a tight one and Marietta has the last possession with a chance to win, you'd better hope that the ball doesn't end up in either Trevor Halter's or Tyler Hammond's hands...  ;)


Pirates haven't played a tight one all season.  We even lost a game that wasn't actually close ;) but not because WE were getting blown out.  We have responded to that loss (5 minutes) pretty well.  I hope Friday isn't close for obvious reason but mainly so we have 100 percent for Sat.  NWC plays Fri Sat games so we know how to prepare but Sat games can be affected by an intense Friday game.
NWC fan

ScotsFan

Quote from: (509)Rat on March 08, 2011, 01:54:49 PM
Scotsfan,

Any word on students sticking around for games this weekend? I remember you saying they were on break...looks like Marietta will bring at least a bus-load of students for the Whitworth game.

I think Wooster shakes off the rust and beats Cabrini soundly, much like several of the top ranked teams did in the second round after first round scares

Haven'theard difinitively one way or the other on the student situation.  Their break starts Friday I believe.

And I hope you're right about Wooster shaking off the rust and winning soundly!   8-)