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[Retired Old Rat]

Congratulations to Bethel on a very fine season. Was hoping they would win it all, giving SJU an opportunity to claim #1 in the final poll. 

[Johns Knees]

I believe the hold was on the RB who was helping with the RT. He grabbed jersey of DE. Probably didn't need to as that DE was not likely to make a tackle on QB by his release.

I thought they called it on the tackle before the RB engaged. But who knows.

[BiggieSmalls]

I believe the hold was on the RB who was helping with the RT. He grabbed jersey of DE. Probably didn't need to as that DE was not likely to make a tackle on QB by his release.

I thought they called it on the tackle before the RB engaged. But who knows.

Agreed. I didn't see the RT hold, but the RB who was helping the RT did tug the jersey of DE.

https://x.com/sickoscommittee/status/1868021681295708522?s=61&t=c8LwTNLp_oVjLrgDCyIjrA

https://x.com/martydietz50/status/1868023390428123601?s=61&t=c8LwTNLp_oVjLrgDCyIjrA

[Retired Old Rat]

With the benefit of replay the holding call seems more legit.

[hazzben]

I believe the hold was on the RB who was helping with the RT. He grabbed jersey of DE. Probably didn't need to as that DE was not likely to make a tackle on QB by his release.

I thought they called it on the tackle before the RB engaged. But who knows.

Agreed. I didn't see the RT hold, but the RB who was helping the RT did tug the jersey of DE.

https://x.com/sickoscommittee/status/1868021681295708522?s=61&t=c8LwTNLp_oVjLrgDCyIjrA

First that wasn't a hold. Second they hadn't called a hold all day and there were times they could have. You establish how you're calling the game and let the players play.

More than that. They blew the neutral zone/offsides on 4th and 4 the drive before. Should have been 1st and 10 and bethel deep in Sus territory.

Having said that. Great game and more so great season Royals. Loved this senior class. So many big plays in key moments. Including a walk off TD in the quarterfinals. Love what this coaching staff has cooking. Loved our fight and physicality all year long.

Great day to be a Royal!!

[SpartanHouse4]

It was a very blatant and obviously hold. The DE's jersey was even pulled off his shoulder pads.

Tough way to end your season but kudos to the ref for making that call in that scenario.

[SpartanHouse4]

Why didn't Bethel kick the FG to tie? Was roughly a 48yarder.

[RoyalsFan]

Why didn't Bethel kick the FG to tie? Was roughly a 48yarder.

Obviously the coach didn't have enough confidence in his kicker. If the RB didn't hold on the last play they would have won (there is no way that the hold prevented him from getting to the qb in time - but a hold is a hold - just too bad it was the only one they called all game).

[RoyalsFan]

More than that. They blew the neutral zone/offsides on 4th and 4 the drive before. Should have been 1st and 10 and bethel deep in Sus territory.

I was informed (by Pat Coleman) that the college rule is different than the NFL rule. Evidently in college the offensive lineman can't move even if the defender is in the neutral zone (unless the defender makes contact with an offensive lineman). I guess the theory being the offensive lineman knows the snap count and shouldn't move before that but the defender can still get back before the ball is snapped. I don't like the rule and think it should be changed to how the NFL enforces it. Maybe the offensive lineman didn't know the rule either because he was pointing at the defender thinking he could move since the defender was in the neutral zone.

[Ice Bear]

It was a very blatant and obviously hold. The DE's jersey was even pulled off his shoulder pads.

Tough way to end your season but kudos to the ref for making that call in that scenario.

I'm still very frustrated and completely understand the fact that consistency of officiating during each individual game is a very important piece in allowing the players to dictate the outcome of the game. With that being said, at the end of the day, if it was a hold, which there was, it was a hold. If the official can't state with utter confidence he made the call because he believed it was the right one (which I'm sure he would) that's good enough for me.

[TheChucker]

After seeing the replay, the RT did hook the defender around the neck. The defender still wouldn't have made the play because of the RB help, but it was a hold. I wasn't watching earlier in the game to see if similar holding was ignored or not. Regardless, it was an asshole move by the refs to rub salt in the wound and penalize for unsportsmanlike conduct. They just ended a team's season on a subjective call then screwed up by trying to end the game early. Refs need to stop making it about themselves.

[SpartanHouse4]

After seeing the replay, the RT did hook the defender around the neck. The defender still wouldn't have made the play because of the RB help, but it was a hold. I wasn't watching earlier in the game to see if similar holding was ignored or not. Regardless, it was an asshole move by the refs to rub salt in the wound and penalize for unsportsmanlike conduct. They just ended a team's season on a subjective call then screwed up by trying to end the game early. Refs need to stop making it about themselves.

Haha what? Dude took his helmet off and then threw it to the ground while yelling in the refs face.

Taking your helmet off is a penalty in itself.

[RoyalsFan]

After seeing the replay, the RT did hook the defender around the neck. The defender still wouldn't have made the play because of the RB help, but it was a hold. I wasn't watching earlier in the game to see if similar holding was ignored or not. Regardless, it was an asshole move by the refs to rub salt in the wound and penalize for unsportsmanlike conduct. They just ended a team's season on a subjective call then screwed up by trying to end the game early. Refs need to stop making it about themselves.

Haha what? Dude took his helmet off and then threw it to the ground while yelling in the refs face.

Taking your helmet off is a penalty in itself.

Not if the refs said the game was over, which they did. It is only a penalty during the game, not after it and the refs claimed the game was over - so yeah, it was a dick move by the refs. How about the refs taking some responsibility for screwing up?

[SpartanHouse4]

After seeing the replay, the RT did hook the defender around the neck. The defender still wouldn't have made the play because of the RB help, but it was a hold. I wasn't watching earlier in the game to see if similar holding was ignored or not. Regardless, it was an asshole move by the refs to rub salt in the wound and penalize for unsportsmanlike conduct. They just ended a team's season on a subjective call then screwed up by trying to end the game early. Refs need to stop making it about themselves.

Haha what? Dude took his helmet off and then threw it to the ground while yelling in the refs face.

Taking your helmet off is a penalty in itself.

Not if the refs said the game was over, which they did. It is only a penalty during the game, not after it and the refs claimed the game was over - so yeah, it was a dick move by the refs. How about the refs taking some responsibility for screwing up?

Game wasn't ruled over at this point. Shortly after this the refs came together and ruled the game over and then changed it.

How bout Bethel just take accountability for a bad holding penalty and for a player throwing his helmet.

[RoyalsFan]

And how do you know the ref didn't say the game was over before huddling with the other refs? BU also has film of the 4th down td at the end of the game and they claim it shows the ball never broke the plane of the goal line.