118th Monon Bell Classic

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Breckenridgebear

Quote from: wally_wabash on October 22, 2011, 12:50:28 AM
Quote from: DPUIrish1 on October 22, 2011, 12:18:09 AM
The only comparison between DePauw and DeBash is that Robby Long is DePauw's version of former DeBash coach Greg Carlson.  Having some issues in the big games....

I'm going to suggest you take Greg Carlson's name out your mouth.  He won 112 games at Wabash, is in the Hall of Fame, and had just one single losing season (4-5 in 1990) in 18 seasons.  When Robby Long gets anywhere near those kinds of accomplishments, then you can draw comparisons. Not before.

Why? Because you want him in yours?

Fact of the matter is Long was never supposed to be a head coach. He was put into the roll after Walker departed. Walker was the ideal "lifetime" head coach. He grew up in Crawfordberg, went to Depauw, and played in some great games against Dabash. He knew the importance of the traditions and game. Due to the politics that surround the educational aspects of Universities he was forced to leave. Robby was not a long term answer, and his record continues to show that he still is not the answer.

However, this does not mean that Depauw has thrown in the towel.  This game means a lot more to the players to let it slip away because of a bad record.  Depauw will be up for the game. And if the dabash caveboyzzz are anything like the posters on this board, they will be looking past Depauw.
DePauw Never Quits

"This happens every year. It's the mere stupidity of supposedly mature college kids acting like a bunch of horse's dicks." - Officer Keller, The Crawfordsville Police Department

smedindy

QuoteI am just amazed that your subpar institution of Pool Cabana maintenance didn't think it through before it decided to send a bunch of pseudo-privileged technical institute boyzzz in pickups and trailers to head south in an effort to "WHITE OUT the dannies", who will be wearing the traditional Monon Black uni. Am I the only one that thinks this is wrong? This is 2011 Dabash, time to pull it out of the dark ages.

See bear, this is much better! You didn't pick on individuals, but the group as a whole. All you need is bring up sheep or load it with standard-issue homophobia and it'd be almost perfect Monon Bell trolling! I give it 7 out of 10.
Wabash Always Fights!

Danny Boy

Looks like we may have solved the QB carousel.  The remainder of the season could get really interesting. I can see the headline now: "wabash awaiting big dose of Seaman"
Depauw Never Quits

Danny Boy

Homophobia? What makes you think we're afraid of you homos?
Depauw Never Quits

DPUIrish1

i've also seen DPU teams get off to terrible starts (1999 - 1-5 start), but finally start clicking, overcoming injuries and peaking in time for the Bell game (21-7 DPU that year to finish 5-5)

So, there's still a few weeks of football left to get ready for the pink and white.

DPU has recruited QBs of late that seem to fit well into DeBash culture - Dick and Seaman....hmmmm, just sayin'

Breckenridgebear

Quote from: smedindy on October 22, 2011, 01:50:44 PM
QuoteI am just amazed that your subpar institution of Pool Cabana maintenance didn't think it through before it decided to send a bunch of pseudo-privileged technical institute boyzzz in pickups and trailers to head south in an effort to "WHITE OUT the dannies", who will be wearing the traditional Monon Black uni. Am I the only one that thinks this is wrong? This is 2011 Dabash, time to pull it out of the dark ages.

See bear, this is much better! You didn't pick on individuals, but the group as a whole. All you need is bring up sheep or load it with standard-issue homophobia and it'd be almost perfect Monon Bell trolling! I give it 7 out of 10.

Smedindy you need to make up your mind. At first I am supposedly saying things too personal. Then I am making it too general. Now you want me to make it about your relationships and lifestyle. You need to pick a theme and go with it.
DePauw Never Quits

"This happens every year. It's the mere stupidity of supposedly mature college kids acting like a bunch of horse's dicks." - Officer Keller, The Crawfordsville Police Department

wally_wabash

You just keep on keepin' on with your hate speech, Bear.  The more you post, the worse you look. 
"Nothing in the world is more expensive than free."- The Deacon of HBO's The Wire

BashDad

Quote from: Breckenridgebear on October 22, 2011, 12:19:18 PM
And if the dabash caveboyzzz are anything like the posters on this board, they will be looking past Depauw.

Right, idiot. They'll look past the friggin' Monon Bell game. You better wish for something else.

Danny Boy

Quote from: BashDad on October 22, 2011, 07:21:05 PM
Quote from: Breckenridgebear on October 22, 2011, 12:19:18 PM
And if the dabash caveboyzzz are anything like the posters on this board, they will be looking past Depauw.

Right, idiot. They'll look past the friggin' Monon Bell game. You better wish for something else.

Welcome to the party, GashDad.  Perhaps Alzheimer's is setting in; your wallies apparently looked past the Bell game as recently as '08.
Depauw Never Quits

wally_wabash

So when you lose the Bell Game it has to be because a team looked past it?  There can be no other reason? I don't think it works that way, DB. 
"Nothing in the world is more expensive than free."- The Deacon of HBO's The Wire

BashDad

#85
I don't look forward to the next three weeks. The conversation is going to stay a healthy distance from actual football talk--you know, because why invite further clarification on why and how much y'all suck? Instead, we're going to hear a billion little cries into the universe of "throw out the records" and "the pressure's entirely on Wabash" and "this is Depauw's championship game" and "look at 1996" or "look at 2008" or "look how gay you are" blah, blah, blah. It's all just noise; an attempt to fill the massive, gaping wound of inferiority that you're going to strut in to Blackstock with in 20 days.

Depauw is going to lose and not by 7 or 14 or a field goal at the last second. It's going to be ugly. Like We'll-Be-Here-On-Monday-Talking-About-Whether-Or-Not-The-Last-Touchdown-Was-Classless Ugly.

You don't have the horses, man. You don't have a quarterback (holy grossman, batman, how many have you PLAYED this year?), a run game, or a defense. You don't have a coach who has engendered any kind of big-game confidence, nor--more importantly-- proven he can scheme to protect his team's weaknesses (to say nothing of scoring zero points in his first bell game and giving up 47. In a GOOD year. With a PLAYOFF team).

Your program is gasping for air and your players are not good and your coach is so good that fans of the team are saying things like "he didn't ASK to be head coach, cut him some slack." You guys are in sooooooooo much effing trouble.

But, you know, keep talking.

HSCTiger74

Quote from: BashDad on October 23, 2011, 11:43:09 AM
I don't look forward to the next three weeks. The conversation is going to stay a healthy distance from actual football talk--you know, because why invite further clarification on why and how much y'all suck? Instead, we're going to hear a billion little cries into the universe of "throw out the records" and "the pressure's entirely on Wabash" and "this is Depauw's championship game" and "look at 1996" or "look at 2008" or "look how gay you are" blah, blah, blah. It's all just noise; an attempt to fill the massive, gaping wound of inferiority that you're going to strut in to Blackstock with in 20 days.

Depauw is going to lose and not by 7 or 14 or a field goal at the last second. It's going to be ugly. Like We'll-Be-Here-On-Monday-Talking-About-Whether-Or-Not-The-Last-Touchdown-Was-Classless Ugly.

You don't have the horses, man. You don't have a quarterback (holy grossman, batman, how many have you PLAYED this year?), a run game, or a defense. You don't have a coach who has engendered any kind of big-game confidence, nor--more importantly-- proven he can scheme to protect his team's weaknesses (to say nothing of scoring zero points in his first bell game and giving up 47. In a GOOD year. With a PLAYOFF team).

Your program is gasping for air and your players are not good and your coach is so good that fans of the team are saying things like "he didn't ASK to be head coach, cut him some slack." You guys are in sooooooooo much effing trouble.

But, you know, keep talking.

I don't have a dog in the fight over the game, so I'm not taking sides, but this is one of the most well-written posts I have seen on the boards in a long time. If anyone ever started a new topic called "How to Write a Good Post" this would be the prime example.  +k
TANSTAAFL

sigma one

Here's what I think I know based on watching a lot of Bell games.  Anything can happen.  Last year, DPU comes in undefeated and headed to the playoffs.  Wabash takes them apart.  Several years ago, turn that around.  What happens in those games when one team looks clearly superior and the other wins, sometimes easily?  I've thought for a long time that there's some weird psychological goings on deep down with the playoff team.  No matter how much the rivalry matters, no matter where the game is played, one team knows it's going to play next week--deep down.  Something happens.  Last year, DPU was totally outclassed by a Wabash team that the week before at Witt was just awful (or at least semi=awful), even given that Witt was very good defensively in particular.  The name calling and comparing seasons doesn't matter.  It is possible that this year, if Wabash gets through the next two weeks, at Allegheny where any weather is possible (even their turf doesn't totally protect against late-October weather in Meadville), and v. Wittenberg and the develping, or already developed, rivalry there, and with Witt having a bye week before coming toC'ville, that a playoff bound Bash takes on a DPU having nothing remaining but a Bell win. For me, it's scary.  Yes, Wabash should win, even if they lose a game between now and then.  In fact, losing might make the win more probable-though I don't wish for that.  I also don't discount a chopped up Blackstop field, if the grass there takes a beating from practice and the home game the previous week, what with Wabash playing on turf almost all year.  Bear, what's with the vitriol:  some Wabash guy steal your girlfriend, take a job away?  Jeez. Maybe talking football for a change would be good therapy.

bashbrother

#88
sigma one -

Totally agree.....  The Bell Game has proven itself to be as much, if not more, a mental game as it has been a physical one.   The whole playoff element has only added another dynamic.   Next year,  the perfect storm of Bell, Playoff & Conference Championship may/will all be on the line in some form for each team.

There is so much made of this game, and we have to remember we are still dealing with young, emotional student athletes.   Anything can truly happen.   I don't care about what anyone says,   this IS the best rivalry in College Football.  The historical record is unmatched and is what helps prove this point.

I believe Wabash will win,  but don't believe it will be the "monkey stomp" it was last year,  history just doesn't support that it will go down that way.


Why should you go for it on 4th down?

"To overcome the disappointment of not making it on third down." -- Washington State Coach Mike Leach

Danny Boy

Quote from: BashDad on October 23, 2011, 11:43:09 AM
I don't look forward to the next three weeks. The conversation is going to stay a healthy distance from actual football talk--you know, because why invite further clarification on why and how much y'all suck? Instead, we're going to hear a billion little cries into the universe of "throw out the records" and "the pressure's entirely on Wabash" and "this is Depauw's championship game" and "look at 1996" or "look at 2008" or "look how gay you are" blah, blah, blah. It's all just noise; an attempt to fill the massive, gaping wound of inferiority that you're going to strut in to Blackstock with in 20 days.

Depauw is going to lose and not by 7 or 14 or a field goal at the last second. It's going to be ugly. Like We'll-Be-Here-On-Monday-Talking-About-Whether-Or-Not-The-Last-Touchdown-Was-Classless Ugly.

You don't have the horses, man. You don't have a quarterback (holy grossman, batman, how many have you PLAYED this year?), a run game, or a defense. You don't have a coach who has engendered any kind of big-game confidence, nor--more importantly-- proven he can scheme to protect his team's weaknesses (to say nothing of scoring zero points in his first bell game and giving up 47. In a GOOD year. With a PLAYOFF team).

Your program is gasping for air and your players are not good and your coach is so good that fans of the team are saying things like "he didn't ASK to be head coach, cut him some slack." You guys are in sooooooooo much effing trouble.

But, you know, keep talking.

If you don't believe in upsets, then you must not understand the history of this rivalry.  Your team has some talented players and next season looks promising as well, but I've personally witnessed some talented wally teams blow this game.

It may be a tough season to be a Tigers fan but I'm optimistic considering our win over OWU.  Quality of opponent aside, Seaman looks to be an upgrade over Kirtley and he could develop chemistry with Steward.  Additionally, Coburn only had 2 catches but both went for TDs.  As a big TE, he could prove to be a nice safety valve for our freshman QB.  The offense may not be explosive this year, but I think these guys can find rythym and move the chains so our D doesn't spend most of the game trying to contain Belton.  The wallies will certainly be heavy favorites as they look better on paper, but I'm only concerned with how they look on Nov 12.  Hopefully like garbage.

So yeah, it's gonna be a long three weeks.  Fortunately, participation on this board is entirely voluntary.
Depauw Never Quits