118th Monon Bell Classic

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DPUIrish1


Quote from: bashbrother on October 31, 2011, 02:41:56 PM
I will admit, on face value, the numbers are closer than one would think... that is if one gives too much weight to h to h common opponent results.

I wish the Bell was Saturday, I am actually tired of talking about it.   As I mentioned in a previous post,  one can hope, but not expect another blowout,  history tells us, it just doesn't play out that way.   

that's what i've mentioned in past posts...i'm looking forward to being a member of the NCAC....i'll say it again, outside of Wittenberg, there's no one in the conference.  Probably why they didn't let DeBash in the playoffs last year.....

I'm with you.....I wish the game was on Saturday too.....but, all good things must wait.....

smedindy

Irish,

Wabash's SOS was quite impressive last year. The loss to Wash U. was the deciding factor. But if I recall, their SOS was #15 or so based on the NCAA calculations.

Go ahead and take the NCAC lightly. Just go ahead. Probably just like you took Rhodes and Sewanee lightly this year. Ooops.

What's the difference between Hiram and Austin anyway - besides mascots and the fact that Austin has a designated tailgating area?

Wabash Always Fights!

Schwami

I'm fairly certain that Wabash did not make the playoffs last year for the simple reason that they lost two games.

No need to run down your own conference.  I have no doubt that DPU will be returning home from Meadville and Wooster with many results in the "L" column in the years to come.  DPU won't find it any easier to win championships in the NCAC than it did in the SCAC.
Long shall we sing thy praises, Old Wabash

Breckenridgebear

Quote from: Schwami on October 31, 2011, 03:47:40 PM
I'm fairly certain that Wabash did not make the playoffs last year for the simple reason that they lost two games.

No need to run down your own conference.  I have no doubt that DPU will be returning home from Meadville and Wooster with many results in the "L" column in the years to come.  DPU won't find it any easier to win championships in the NCAC than it did in the SCAC.

I can't wait until Depauw gets to run up the NCAC Championships and Bell wins in the future. I am sure there will be some L's along the way, but I have a feeling there will be a lot more Ws.
DePauw Never Quits

"This happens every year. It's the mere stupidity of supposedly mature college kids acting like a bunch of horse's dicks." - Officer Keller, The Crawfordsville Police Department

DPUIrish1

Quote from: smedindy on October 31, 2011, 03:44:06 PM
Irish,


Go ahead and take the NCAC lightly. Just go ahead. Probably just like you took Rhodes and Sewanee lightly this year. Ooops.


we lost our quarterbacks in both games.  one to a blown ACL and the other due to a severe concussion.  Which is now the reason you'll get Seaman at Monon.  You'll like that better anyway for obvious reasons. 


BashDad

I can't wait until Depauw has a coach that will see players he recruited graduate.

DPUIrish1

Quote from: BashDad on October 31, 2011, 08:34:27 PM
I can't wait until Depauw has a coach that will see players he recruited graduate.

says a guy from a team with a coach in his 4th year - getting to see 'his' kids graduate for the first time.  been saving that one??

smedindy

Last four DPU coaches: Long, Walker, Rogers, Lynch

Last four Wabash coaches: Raeburn, Creighton, Carlson, Parrish.

Yes, it goes back to Stan Parrish, the man who coached Pete Metzelaars at Wabash. 
Wabash Always Fights!

bashbrother

Smeds.... years comparison?  may illustrate the point even more.
Why should you go for it on 4th down?

"To overcome the disappointment of not making it on third down." -- Washington State Coach Mike Leach

DPUIrish1

Quote from: smedindy on November 01, 2011, 12:09:54 AM
Last four DPU coaches: Long, Walker, Rogers, Lynch

Last four Wabash coaches: Raeburn, Creighton, Carlson, Parrish.

Yes, it goes back to Stan Parrish, the man who coached Pete Metzelaars at Wabash. 

Quote from: bashbrother on November 01, 2011, 12:12:56 AM
Smeds.... years comparison?  may illustrate the point even more.

put the years in there?? who cares??  the walker one really stings....the true story still hasn't manifested, though some know it.  Lynch stayed one year, won the Bell and left for IU - tough to blame him for that.  Long has led DePauw to the playoffs back to back years after we never qualified prior to that.....I'll give you Rogers......tack on Nick and that's 5 coaches - and yes, Nick is the man who coached against Metzelaars.....

bashbrother

Hopefully, Depauw finds some stability in that area........  the program needs it.   Actually, many times after schools lose a long-time leader like Coach Nick,  it takes awhile to find the next one.    Wabash got lucky with ER (Tweeters listening?) .....  Maybe Long is it.  Time will tell.
Why should you go for it on 4th down?

"To overcome the disappointment of not making it on third down." -- Washington State Coach Mike Leach

DPUIrish1

Quote from: bashbrother on November 01, 2011, 12:24:41 AM
Hopefully, Depauw finds some stability in that area........  the program needs it.   Actually, many times after schools lose a long-time leader like Coach Nick,  it takes awhile to find the next one.    Wabash got lucky with ER (Tweeters listening?) .....  Maybe Long is it.  Time will tell.


tough to disagree with you here.  I agree, once a leader has left, one that has earned a ton of respect, it's tough to be the coach coming into that shadow to build your program.  we definitely need stability.  both programs, more importantly, this rivalry is better for it.

bashbrother

A ton of pressure on new coaches of winning D3 programs to maintain program and deliver wins, under very tough non-scholarship dynamic, admission standards, cost of school, dealing with Administration etc.  Safe to say, that not every talented football coach is an automatic success at the D3 Level. 

Why should you go for it on 4th down?

"To overcome the disappointment of not making it on third down." -- Washington State Coach Mike Leach

BashDad

Quote from: DPUIrish1 on November 01, 2011, 12:16:17 AM
put the years in there?? who cares??  the walker one really stings....the true story still hasn't manifested, though some know it.  Lynch stayed one year, won the Bell and left for IU - tough to blame him for that.  Long has led DePauw to the playoffs back to back years after we never qualified prior to that.....I'll give you Rogers......tack on Nick and that's 5 coaches - and yes, Nick is the man who coached against Metzelaars.....

I don't understand your point. You're saying that, no, Depauw has no recent problem retaining coaches? Seriously?

Dudes, I'm not even being a homer when I tell you that you are absolutely losing recruits to Wabash because
you can't keep a coach. It's not even debatable. I would love to hear the argument for how Depauw has overcome not one, not two, not three, but four--FOUR!--different off-seasons in the last 7 years telling recruits that hey, sorry, if you hold the phone for a few weeks while we get our house in order, we can tell you who'll be leading things around here.

That's ridiculous. You think you just, like--oops--accidentally fell into this season's team? You didn't. You got beat recruiting. You were hiring coaches. And then firing them. Or they were suing you. Or whatever.


smedindy

Quote from: bashbrother on November 01, 2011, 12:12:56 AM
Smeds.... years comparison?  may illustrate the point even more.

Let them do the research! Heh.
Wabash Always Fights!