118th Monon Bell Classic

[Danny Boy]

No sister school?  Wabash - the vocational institute of brotherly love.

Still trying to figure out why someone would voluntarily waste 4 years re-enacting prison scenes when the Holy Land is 27 miles south.  A bash student has two chances for college glory: a) playing football, or b) standing on the sideline in candy stripes looking like a clown.  And upon securing the aforementioned roles, these select wallies will be idolized by 870 dudes.  You couldn't get the 18 year old me drunk enough to enroll for that sideshow.  Oh, and Jesus HATES wabash so there's that too.

On another note, that game at Austin was a good win.  QUALITY OF OPPONENT ASIDE, that game was brutal.  Austin was clearly frustrated and flags were flying (2 late hits from the same player).  I view it as a good refresher for our guys.  Rough games are always a good primer this time of year. 

[Breckenridgebear]

Let me try, as a newby to the Board, only several posts over a long period.   But I know the recent recruiting battle close up.  Trust me.  One side probably will, the other won't.  Both schools are fine academic institutions, despite the comments of some.  Reference the usual national publications.  Both have recent success athetically, and not just in football.  Walker's seniors graduated last year.  The 2010 Bell Game was a strange game.  Who would have figured? In those cases where the schools have gone head to head on a recruit Wabash has more often that not gotten the upper hand.  Not always, but often enough to make a difference.  I once heard a coach say:  "It's not the X's and the O's, it's the Jimmys and the Joes."  Right now, Wabash has more athletes.  Does that mean that the Bell Game is a lock; certainly not, with DePauw playing for redemption.  But overall the recent battle for athletes goes to Wabash, and especially in Indiana.

But DIII is more than just being an Athlete, it is about being a true Scholar Athlete. Sounds like Dabash is getting a lot more meat than brains. 

[Danny Boy]

Let me try, as a newby to the Board, only several posts over a long period.   But I know the recent recruiting battle close up.  Trust me.  One side probably will, the other won't.  Both schools are fine academic institutions, despite the comments of some.  Reference the usual national publications.  Both have recent success athetically, and not just in football.  Walker's seniors graduated last year.  The 2010 Bell Game was a strange game.  Who would have figured? In those cases where the schools have gone head to head on a recruit Wabash has more often that not gotten the upper hand.  Not always, but often enough to make a difference.  I once heard a coach say:  "It's not the X's and the O's, it's the Jimmys and the Joes."  Right now, Wabash has more athletes.  Does that mean that the Bell Game is a lock; certainly not, with DePauw playing for redemption.  But overall the recent battle for athletes goes to Wabash, and especially in Indiana.

I don't know enough about the recruits' short lists to say for sure, but I have a feeling your right.  The wallies do have some impressive young players and I'd be surprised if DPU wasn't also an option.  But what gave wally world the nod?  A few guys on this board have pointed to lack of coaching stability and I tend to agree.

[D3_DPUFan]

Let me try, as a newby to the Board, only several posts over a long period.   But I know the recent recruiting battle close up.  Trust me.  One side probably will, the other won't.

Just curious, from your "close up" perspective, When did this preference for Wabash over DePauw begin? The "more times than not" head to head recruits xchoosing Wabash?

[BashDad]

Sounds like Dabash is getting a lot more meat than brains.

Oh, does it? And what in the heavenly universe can you point to as evidence for that brilliant piece of analysis?

[BashDad]

Let me try, as a newby to the Board, only several posts over a long period.   But I know the recent recruiting battle close up.  Trust me.  One side probably will, the other won't.

Just curious, from your "close up" perspective, When did this preference for Wabash over DePauw begin? The "more times than not" head to head recruits xchoosing Wabash?

Chris. Creighton.

[Wabash Hokie]

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Let me try, as a newby to the Board, only several posts over a long period.   But I know the recent recruiting battle close up.  Trust me.  One side probably will, the other won't.
Just curious, from your "close up" perspective, When did this preference for Wabash over DePauw begin? The "more times than not" head to head recruits xchoosing Wabash?

Chris. Creighton.

Have to agree with BashDad on this one. Creighton did a great job in organizing the recruiting process and Raeburn has continued.  We have seen an uptick in the number and quality of athletes coming into the football program, which, in turn, has also improved the quality of our track and baseball programs (my assessment).

[D3_DPUFan]

Chris. Creighton.

Outstanding coach AND recruiter. No doubt. I just don't remember DePauw losing too many top recruits to Wabash in 2006, 2007, 2008. Difference makers who seriously considered both schools. Classes that just graduated. Maybe I'm wrong... 

[D3_DPUFan]

...and that's not in any way saying that Coach Creighton didn't bring in quality guys, including some who strongly considered Depauw, while he was there...have a lot of respect for the guy... 

[BashDad]

Well, I'm pretty sure you'll notice two of them in ten days:

CJ Gumm and Wes Chamblee.

[BashDad]

Also, aren't those the years that are most responsible for a 47-0 thrashing and this year's disappointment?

I don't understand. If we were ranking the best players on both teams, wouldn't we get pretty deep in the ranking before we had to write "Depauw?"

[smedindy]

I may be wrong, but I think the only player of note on the DPU side of recent vintage that Wabash lost the recruiting battle for was Spud.

And it's not like we didn't have any QBs from 2006-09.

[D3_DPUFan]

Well, I'm pretty sure you'll notice two of them in ten days:

CJ Gumm and Wes Chamblee.

Those would be two great players.

Also, aren't those the years that are most responsible for a 47-0 thrashing and this year's disappointment?

I don't understand. If we were ranking the best players on both teams, wouldn't we get pretty deep in the ranking before we had to write "Depauw?"

Just as much as they contributed to the 36-14 thrashing that Wabash took on their home field in '08...i thought the discussion was about the guy with close up knowledge backing up his statement...

[BashDad]

I'd say the only one was Koors. He's the only All-American.

Here are our All-Americans during the same time-frame:

Weston Kitley, Jonathan koop, CJ Gumm, Wes Chamblee, Evan Isaacs, Addrian Frederick

Spud doesn't count. We had an All American (Huff) under center when he was playing as a freshman. Also, I'm not sure Hudson doesn't win the head-to-head.

[BashDad]

Well, I'm pretty sure you'll notice two of them in ten days:

CJ Gumm and Wes Chamblee.

Those would be two great players.

Also, aren't those the years that are most responsible for a 47-0 thrashing and this year's disappointment?

I don't understand. If we were ranking the best players on both teams, wouldn't we get pretty deep in the ranking before we had to write "Depauw?"

Just as much as they contributed to the 36-14 thrashing that Wabash took on their home field in '08...i thought the discussion was about the guy with close up knowledge backing up his statement...

I'm not sure you want to start an argument about bell wins since Creighton began his recruiting. Do you?

In any case, the 2008 score was the recruiting class of 2004. Which isn't, actually, the date range you were talking about and--also--is the single worst season of Wabash football in the decade since Creighton was hired. Not a coincidence.