118th Monon Bell Classic

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BashDad

Quote from: Wes Anderson on November 03, 2011, 11:26:17 AM
For every Knott, there's a Spud.

Please.

This is the absolute essence of the argument boiled down.

Wabash is going to hold on to that bell for many, many years. You'll see.

wally_wabash

Quote from: Wes Anderson on November 03, 2011, 11:26:17 AM
For every Knott, there's a Spud. 

Oh my.  I laughed way out lout at this. 

11,213 passing yards, 116 TDs, 12,054 yards of total offense.  Spud didn't even come close.  He was a really good player, but you need to pump the brakes before you start putting him in the Knott-zone. 
"Nothing in the world is more expensive than free."- The Deacon of HBO's The Wire

DPU3619

#302
I originally wrote Harbaugh but didn't want to step on his toes. Couldn't win either way there. Cant really blame me trying to be nice to the guy, can ya? I felt like I gave some back in the Marks/Morris thing. It's not a stats contest. It's a good player contest. You've had some. We've had some. We still will.

Don't act like all Wabash recruits are guys that never consider DePauw. Like I said, we're chasing a bunch of the same guys. Some years you get more, some years we get more. Some of you considered DePauw. Some of us considered Wabash. We went seperate directions.

We're the worse team this year. Maybe we'll win. Maybe we won't. We'd still have a chance if we were 9-0 or 0-9. This rivalry has, and will continue to, prove that year in and year out. Like last year. Or 2007. Or any other year.

smedindy

I may have this wrong, but the last Bell Game to feature a team that was under .500 was 1999, when DPU came in at 4-5 and Wabash was 5-4.

Not exactly 3-5 vs. 8-0...but still it's been a while. DPU finished 5-5 in 99, 01 and 03...
Wabash Always Fights!

DPUIrish1

Quote from: smedindy on November 03, 2011, 04:23:58 PM
I may have this wrong, but the last Bell Game to feature a team that was under .500 was 1999, when DPU came in at 4-5 and Wabash was 5-4.

Not exactly 3-5 vs. 8-0...but still it's been a while. DPU finished 5-5 in 99, 01 and 03...

smed - without fact checking, you're correct about '99.  I do believe that was the last time.  both programs are successful.  can't argue that....though i'm sure debashdad will come up with a top 10 list that will dispute that

wally_wabash

Mock the top 10 list if you will, but there's some solid to-the-point content that actually pertains to next Saturday as opposed to reciting SAT numbers out of a brochure.  How far down the list do you have to go before you can plug a DePauw player in?  And how much farther down before you find another?  How many of the top 20 players in this game will be wearing white next weekend?  17? 18?  That's got to be a harsh reality to try and come to grips with. 

Poo-poo the list all you want, but that list and the general idea behind it is probably the most game-relevant post we've seen in this forum all season. 
"Nothing in the world is more expensive than free."- The Deacon of HBO's The Wire

Breckenridgebear

Quote from: wally_wabash on November 03, 2011, 04:40:43 PM
Mock the top 10 list if you will, but there's some solid to-the-point content that actually pertains to next Saturday as opposed to reciting SAT numbers out of a brochure.  How far down the list do you have to go before you can plug a DePauw player in?  And how much farther down before you find another?  How many of the top 20 players in this game will be wearing white next weekend?  17? 18?  That's got to be a harsh reality to try and come to grips with. 

Poo-poo the list all you want, but that list and the general idea behind it is probably the most game-relevant post we've seen in this forum all season.

And of your 17 or 18, how will they stack up to a bunch of no talent "Dannies" if Dabash loses?
DePauw Never Quits

"This happens every year. It's the mere stupidity of supposedly mature college kids acting like a bunch of horse's dicks." - Officer Keller, The Crawfordsville Police Department

DPUIrish1

Quote from: wally_wabash on November 03, 2011, 04:40:43 PM
Mock the top 10 list if you will, but there's some solid to-the-point content that actually pertains to next Saturday as opposed to reciting SAT numbers out of a brochure.  How far down the list do you have to go before you can plug a DePauw player in?  And how much farther down before you find another?  How many of the top 20 players in this game will be wearing white next weekend?  17? 18?  That's got to be a harsh reality to try and come to grips with. 

Poo-poo the list all you want, but that list and the general idea behind it is probably the most game-relevant post we've seen in this forum all season. 

seriously?!?!?!??  get a life.  i mean, the time it takes to come up with the top 20 recruits from each side???  really??  pretty sure this is not what the rivalry is about.  and, if YOU'RE doing the list, it's going to be weighted regardless if debash has the top 20 overall recruits or not....

DPUIrish1

Quote from: wally_wabash on November 03, 2011, 04:40:43 PM
How many of the top 20 players in this game will be wearing white next weekend?  17? 18?  That's got to be a harsh reality to try and come to grips with. 

far from a harsh reality...very easy to "come to grips" with whatever list you want to produce. 

bashbrother

#309
We need to take it easy on Depauw "We're Awesome at Beer Pong" University.  We still want them to show up (at least for the first and 2nd quarters.)   

Seriously,  we need to get some Vegas action going for how long it will take the home stands to empty -  50% by half?  60% by end of 3rd?

2005   http://youtu.be/oMG-7Q3-Mi0

One of my favorite Monon Individual Memories, They actually thought that (Russ, #3, Bashdad) was going to keep it on the option....  ;)  Classic.... nice scouting.
Why should you go for it on 4th down?

"To overcome the disappointment of not making it on third down." -- Washington State Coach Mike Leach

sigma one

Thanks, everyone.  Appreciate your comments.  The better team on that day will win.  All the rest is, as they say, window dressing.

wally_wabash

Quote from: DPUIrish1 on November 03, 2011, 04:49:46 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on November 03, 2011, 04:40:43 PM
Mock the top 10 list if you will, but there's some solid to-the-point content that actually pertains to next Saturday as opposed to reciting SAT numbers out of a brochure.  How far down the list do you have to go before you can plug a DePauw player in?  And how much farther down before you find another?  How many of the top 20 players in this game will be wearing white next weekend?  17? 18?  That's got to be a harsh reality to try and come to grips with. 

Poo-poo the list all you want, but that list and the general idea behind it is probably the most game-relevant post we've seen in this forum all season. 

seriously?!?!?!??  get a life.  i mean, the time it takes to come up with the top 20 recruits from each side???  really??  pretty sure this is not what the rivalry is about.  and, if YOU'RE doing the list, it's going to be weighted regardless if debash has the top 20 overall recruits or not....

I'm not talking about recruits.  I'm talking about players on the field next Saturday.  If you break it down, and are completely honest with yourself about it, there is a nasty truth that starts to emerge...the better players right now are not wearing black and gold.  They just aren't.  All the name-calling in the world doesn't change that, fellas.  You can distract yourself with stories from 2000 and the ol' tired and true "records don't matter in this game!" stuff....but the fact remains that right now Wabash has better players.  And it doesn't stop there.  Wabash has a superior coaching staff as well.  This is not disputable...it sure as hell wasn't Erik Raeburn standing on the sideline with his jaw on the floor hopelessly looking around for answers. 

By all means...do whatever you need to do to distract yourself from the realities that surround the 118th.  Whatever is going to allow you to get amped up and get out to Blackstock and have a good time all the way up until 1:07 p.m. next Saturday, do it.  Just be prepared to get snapped back into the real world over those next three hours.  It might be pretty harsh. 
"Nothing in the world is more expensive than free."- The Deacon of HBO's The Wire

BashDad

Quote from: Wes Anderson on November 03, 2011, 01:56:28 PM
Don't act like all Wabash recruits are guys that never consider DePauw.

To the contrary, the opposite has been the point all along. We're recruiting the same players. The best of those players aren't going to Depauw.

Quote from: sigma one on November 03, 2011, 07:57:55 AM
To be fair, I know of DePauw players that Wabash would love to have; I would not produce a list like the one here.

Quote from: DPUIrish1 on November 03, 2011, 10:16:59 AM
that was a bit much, debashdad....seriously, unless you're the recruiting coordinator, you might want to spend more time in your job or whatever it is you do with your life.

Quote from: D3_DPUFan on November 03, 2011, 11:17:13 AM
Thanks for explaining and the legitimate reasoning behind your earlier post...and for your common sense regarding "the list."

I find the indignation at the player ranking to be curious. I know none of the players personally, unlike Sigma, and can see nothing offensive about singling out the best of our players and contributing actual content to the board.  If you think I'm ashamed to have spent 20 minutes on a post or it's somehow indicative of a life more lamentable than yours: Guess what, dude. You don't know me very well.

That would have been a fun back-and-forth, but if y'all don't want to play along... fine. I'm not sure what the eye-roll is all about.




wally_wabash

Quote from: BashDad on November 03, 2011, 06:15:30 PM
That would have been a fun back-and-forth, but if y'all don't want to play along... fine. I'm not sure what the eye-roll is all about.

I wonder if a lot of these guys can even name 10 current DPU players.  Lot of turnover from last year. 
"Nothing in the world is more expensive than free."- The Deacon of HBO's The Wire

DPUIrish1

Quote from: wally_wabash on November 03, 2011, 06:20:58 PM
Quote from: BashDad on November 03, 2011, 06:15:30 PM
That would have been a fun back-and-forth, but if y'all don't want to play along... fine. I'm not sure what the eye-roll is all about.

I wonder if a lot of these guys can even name 10 current DPU players.  Lot of turnover from last year. 

in fairness, i'd love to run down the roster to you in person - however, it's impossible for you to believe me now with the ability to have the roster accessible with the click of a mouse.  the moment i spew a list of names here, you'll refute it, and that's fine.

no need to get the panties in a bunch here.....the pure core of the argument right here is that debash has better players right now, than depauw does.  8-0 caveboyzz, 3-4 tigers - and sure bring up 47-0 again....not hard to dispute that right now things lean in your favor.  again - debash is having a run right now...just as depauw has done and debash has done and depauw has done again.  probably why 55-53-9 means something here.

and this b.s. about leaving early - spare me.  i've been to Bell games where DePauw has blown you out and it's much of the same.....'08....and several references after that too.