FB: Region 4 fan poll

[DPU3619]

Here's Week 1 of our new North Region Fan Poll.  Here's hoping this goes for a long, long time.  I'm still looking for one or two more who are willing to participate while taking it seriously, willing to send a ballot every week, and wouldn't vote their favorite team #1 or #2 every week.  Here's the poll.


1. Mount Union       40pts    (1,1,1,1)
2. Wheaton            33pts   (2, 3, 3, 3)
2. Witt                  31pts   (2, 2, 4, 5)
4. North Central       27pts   (2, 4, 4, 7)
5. Ohio Northern      26pts   (3, 4, 5, 6)
6. Wabash              19pts   (5, 6, 7, 7)
7. Franklin              13pts   (7, 8, 8, 8)
8. Baldwin Wallace   11pts   (6, 6, 10, -)
9. Trine                 12pts  (5, 8, 9, 10)
10.Illinois Wesleyan  6pts    (9, 9, 9, -)


RV Chicago            1pt     (10, -, -, -)
RV CWRU              1pt      (10, -, -, -)


The North Region Fan Poll is voted on by ADL70, Wes Anderson, Mr. Ypsi, and wally_wabash.

[smedindy]

I'll do it!

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

I can do it too

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

Probably a bit late noticing this, but 8 and 9 are switched in the week 1 poll. Trine should be ahead of Baldwin Wallace

[DPU3619]

Week 2 North Region Fan Poll:

1. Mt Union          60 pts    (1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1)
2. Wheaton          48 pts    (2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3)
3. North Central    45 pts    (2, 3, 4, 4, 4, 6)
4. ONU                41 pts    (3, 3, 4, 4, 5, 6)
5. Wittenberg       38 pts    (3, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7)
6. Wabash           31 pts    (5, 5, 6, 6, 6, 7)
7. Trine               23 pts    (5, 5, 8, 8, 8, 9)
8. Balwin-Wallace 17 pts     (7, 7, 7, 7, 10, -)
9. Franklin           14 pts     (8, 9, 9, 9, 8, 9)
10. IWU               6 pts      (8, 9, 10, -, -, -)

RV  Adrian            4 pts      (10, 10, 10, 10, -, -)


Corrections and math-checking are appreciated.
The North Region Fan Poll is voted on by Wes Anderson, wally_wabash, Mr. Ypsi, ADL70, smedindy, & FCGrizzliesGrad.

[DPU3619]

I'll also add a comment... I'm a little surprised that our group thinks that North Central, ONU, and Witt are essentially interchangeable.  I'm not sure I'm on board with that.

[wally_wabash]

I just think we've got different opinions on how to handle North Central's result in California.  I'm a "results matter" guy, so I have them a little lower.  If they keep hanging 70-burgers on people, they'll move back up pretty quickly. 

[Li'l Giant]

Hey, Wes, is it too late to jump in on this, too?

[DPU3619]

Hey, Wes, is it too late to jump in on this, too?

Yeah, I'll go to 7 voters.  I think that's as high as I can go, though.  I have enough trouble getting the math right with 6.  Send me one on Sat night/Sunday and I'll start tabulating you next week.

As far as NCC goes, it's the old argument of whether losing to a good team makes you better or worse than teams beating bad teams.  I still like NCC.  I'm one of the voters with them at 4.  Maybe too early to tell on the Polar Bears.  Maybe too early on Witt, considering OWU played them better than 38-13.  I don't know.  I like Witt.  I think they're the 3rd best team in this region and I probably won't change my mind unless they lose in Crawfordsville.  I highly doubt they lose before then, but we still don't know much about where exactly Allegheny is.  Same goes with Huntingdon, although that may be a darn tough trip.

[smedindy]

I think NC is better than Witt. I think NC lost because of the trip and it was just 'one of those things'. Heck, Mt. Union lost once in the regular season at some point in the somewhat recent past. At least I can remember it....

[wally_wabash]

I think NCC is better than Witt too. But they lost and the rankings should reflect that. The last time Mount Union lost, Wabash earned the top seed in the region. They lost to an awesome Capital team and missed the chance to host the Raiders. That would have been fun. Anyway, the point is that if NCC is as good as we think, they'll be there when it matters...either playing at UMU or UWW for a shot in the final four or the Stagg. But as far as rankings right now, I think that result has to matter.

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

Week 2 North Region Fan Poll:

1. Mt Union          60 pts    (1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1)
2. Wheaton          48 pts    (2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3)
3. North Central    45 pts    (2, 3, 4, 4, 4, 6)
4. ONU                41 pts    (3, 3, 4, 4, 5, 6)
5. Wittenberg       38 pts    (3, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7)
6. Wabash           31 pts    (5, 5, 6, 6, 6, 7)
7. Trine               23 pts    (5, 5, 8, 8, 8, 9)
8. Balwin-Wallace 17 pts     (7, 7, 7, 7, 10, -)
9. Franklin           14 pts     (8, 9, 9, 9, 8, 9)
10. IWU               6 pts      (8, 9, 10, -, -, -)

RV  Adrian            4 pts      (10, 10, 10, 10, -, -)


Corrections and math-checking are appreciated.
The North Region Fan Poll is voted on by Wes Anderson, wally_wabash, Mr. Ypsi, ADL70, smedindy, & FCGrizzliesGrad.

The math degree in me can't help but correct your point totals
Wheaton 53
North Central 43

[smedindy]

Wally,

If it wasn't a 'first game of the year road trip to the west coast', I can see your point. But those are some mitigating factors, so I'm giving NCC a slight pass.

[DPU3619]

I am awful at math.  I can assure you that you will correct me many times in the future.

[Ralph Turner]

As an outside observer, the SCIAC is a quality conference. IMHO, its top level teams are better than the top level teams in the North Region of the other conferences with the exception of the OAC and the CCIW.