FB: Region 4 fan poll

[smedindy]

The H2H result I am questioning is Redlands vs. North Central - given their body of work as a whole after week one. Kean vs. Wesley rather much sorted itself out and I think Redlands vs. North Central did as well after week one.

[wally_wabash]

I happen to think that UWW is better than Mount Union in 2011, and not by a little bit.  I don't think that's a minority opinion.  If Mount Union wins on Friday, by whatever score or circumstance, everybody is going to vote Mount Union as #1, even if they think UWW would win more than they lose if they played 10 games against each other or whatever.  That h2h result will trump whatever else it is that anybody believes about the relative strength of those two teams.  So why is it different in the North Central/Wabash case? 

[Mr. Ypsi]

wally, one blatantly obvious difference is neutral field vs. home field.

[Mr. Ypsi]

bashbro, my use of the word 'fluke' was in no way intended to diminish anything Wabash did in the game.  I apologize if the word carried those connotations for you.

And I do totally agree that the NCC coaching staff blew it in the second half.  Never blitzing was a fatal brain-fart by the coaches.

[emma17]

Ypsi -  hey I agree it was a lucky break.  Show me a big time college football that doesn't have a lucky break in it.   Show me a Super bowl, show me any game at a high level, that doesn't have one.  Go back and look at the entire game.   Was it a fluke that NCC's offense could only score 7 pts in the 2nd half,  was it a fluke that North Central's coaching staff could not find their way to blitzing even ONCE in the game, even though they were getting shredded in the final two quarters?  If their offense would have been able to get into FG range one time.....  then they would have gone to Alliance.

The last point I will ever make on this matter and really the only thing I have ever had an issue with in your posts on this topic, has been the use of the word "Fluke".   The use of that word directly devalues the 100+ Wabash players that fought like hell for that very tough victory, maybe the biggest victory in School History.  (Which simply by saying that is giving a tremendous amount of credit to a great North Central squad)   

Good Day.

I've thought about that "lucky" play quite a bit.  As much as it may be reasonable to say the play was lucky, consider this.  The intended receiver was Wide Open in the end zone- that wasn't luck.  NCC was lucky the wide open reciever didn't catch the ball.

For the record, I counted three NCC blitzes in the (now I can't remember if it was the entire second half or just the 4th quarter). Not enough pressure regardless.

Both teams are excellent as far as I'm concerned.   
     

[DPU3619]

It's back for the first time!  Here's the Week 1 North Region Fan Poll:

1. Mount Union                       60 pts (1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1)
2. Wabash                             51 pts (2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 4)
3. North Central                      50 pts (2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 3)
4. Wheaton                            37 pts (3, 4, 5, 5, 6, 6)
5. Franklin                             36 pts (4, 4, 5, 5, 6, 6)
6. Baldwin-Wallace                  29 pts (4, 4, 7, 7, 7, 8)
7. Illinois Wesleyan                  28 pts (5, 6, 6, 7, 7, 7)
8. Wittenberg                         15 pts (5, 8, 8, 9, 10, -)
9. Heidelberg                          7 pts   (8, 9, 10, 10, -, -)
T10. Adrian                            5 pts   (8, 9, - ,- ,- ,-)
T10. Case Western Reserve      5 pts   (8, 9, -, -, -, -)

Also Receiving Votes:

Ohio Northern                         3 pts (10, 10, 10, -, -, -)
Capital                                  2 pts (9, -, -, -, -, -)
Albion                                   2 pts (9, -, -, -, -, -)


The North Region Fan Poll is voted on by Wes Anderson, wally_wabash, smedindy, ADL70, Mr. Ypsi, and FCGrizzlesGrad.

[Mr. Ypsi]

At the risk of re-igniting the debate from December (NOT my intention!), I 'confess' to being one of those with NCC 2 and Wabash 3.  I also had IWU 6 and Bald Wally 7 (I MAY have a touch of 'homer' in me ).  I was also the NV for Witt (I'm agnostic for the first couple of games), though they would have been 11th or 12th (undecided between them and Albion).  In slight variation from the consensus, I had Adrian 8, Case 9, and Heidi 10.

(Had it gone that far, I also was torn between Cap and ONU for 13 and 14 - we seem to have a pretty clear top tier so far.)

[wally_wabash]

No worries, Ypsi.  It's a new season so your guess is as good as anybody's at this point.   

[NCF]

Only six people in the fan poll?

[Mr. Ypsi]

Only six people in the fan poll?

YOU could make it 7!

[NCF]

I didn't know it was open, but it would seem like more people would want to be in a regional poll.And maybe I'll join next week!

[ExTartanPlayer]

Nah, cardfan, it's a lot more fun to NOT be in the poll and then yell/scream about the idiots who ARE in the poll.

[NCF]

Nah, cardfan, it's a lot more fun to NOT be in the poll and then yell/scream about the idiots who ARE in the poll.

Hmmmmm:)

[Mr. Ypsi]

Nah, cardfan, it's a lot more fun to NOT be in the poll and then yell/scream about the idiots who ARE in the poll.

Hmmmmm:)

Of course, you can be a voter and still yell/scream about the OTHER idiots in the poll!

(Alas, my ballot fit in quite nicely with the total results.  Maybe next week! )

[NCF]

Nah, cardfan, it's a lot more fun to NOT be in the poll and then yell/scream about the idiots who ARE in the poll.

Hmmmmm:)

Of course, you can be a voter and still yell/scream about the OTHER idiots in the poll!

(Alas, my ballot fit in quite nicely with the total results.  Maybe next week! )

Decisions, decisions