FB: Region 4 fan poll

SaintsFAN · November 18, 2018, 12:49:38 PM

Quote from: USee on November 17, 2018, 11:34:27 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 17, 2018, 10:00:44 PM
Quote from: Dr. Acula on November 17, 2018, 09:56:59 PM
I feel much better about being the low guy on Trine after today. I feel much worse about having JCU at 3 after today. The yin and yang of playoff football.

I haven't heard from any of those Trine fans who didn't like my stating publicly that I didn't have Trine on my Top 25 ballot.

Don't worry Pat. I haven't heard from anyone who ridiculed me for having JCU lower than 2nd for the last month either.

OR your post about Moeglin? I thought of that yesterday after his third int.

USee · November 18, 2018, 04:34:48 PM

I don't think the Moeglin thing was anything intuitive. I just looked at his stats against the top three and he completed less than 50% of his passes with no TD's and a few int's w a couple fumbles. It's not rocket science to see he was not playing well. And then looking at JCU, who can run the ball well but had a QB not playing well, they became one dimensional. You can't be one dimensional against teams In the playoffs.

HOPEful · November 19, 2018, 02:59:19 PM

Are we still voting through the playoffs?

wally_wabash · November 19, 2018, 03:05:23 PM

One after the playoffs, or when we're down to the last North region team standing (the North took a Round 1 beating, so we're almost there!). Really, whenever you're all set on your final 2018 top 10, you can forward that along to me.

wally_wabash · December 17, 2018, 09:14:59 AM

Going to toss out a last call for your last 2018 NRFP ballots. I'd like to put a bow on this by Wednesday if at all possible.

Mr. Ypsi · December 17, 2018, 10:07:14 AM

Quote from: wally_wabash on December 17, 2018, 09:14:59 AM
Going to toss out a last call for your last 2018 NRFP ballots. I'd like to put a bow on this by Wednesday if at all possible.

You got mine almost a month ago?

wally_wabash · December 17, 2018, 10:09:34 AM

Yes, I do have a few. Majority still outstanding though.

USee · December 17, 2018, 11:45:37 AM

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on December 17, 2018, 10:07:14 AM
Quote from: wally_wabash on December 17, 2018, 09:14:59 AM
Going to toss out a last call for your last 2018 NRFP ballots. I'd like to put a bow on this by Wednesday if at all possible.

You got mine almost a month ago?

That seems credible.

Mine is in.

FCGrizzliesGrad · December 18, 2018, 05:16:03 AM

I'm working on mine.
Still half of the Top 25 poll isn't in either. Just sent a reminder PM to them.

Captain_Joe08 · December 18, 2018, 11:49:31 AM

Just sent mine in. Still taken aback how poorly the North Region top ten did in the postseason.

CollegeGolf18 · December 27, 2018, 07:43:14 PM

When will the poll be going up?

wally_wabash · January 05, 2019, 11:50:12 AM

Many apologies for the significant delay on this, gang. After the Stagg Bowl I got tied up with the holidays, travel, and illness. I want to thank you all for your patience and thank all of the voters again for their considerable effort and thoughtfulness put into this exercise. And now, from the better-late-than-never file, the final 2018 NRFP:

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The NRFP is voted on by: Captain_Joe08, CollegeGolf18, Dr. Acula, FCGrizzliesGrad, HOPEful, Li'l Giant, Mr Ypsi, NCF, smedindy, thunderdog, USee, and wally wabash.

Mr. Ypsi · January 05, 2019, 06:00:11 PM

Don't know if anyone is still wanting to discuss the poll, but FWIW, I'm column 6. Despite the NCAC's tie-break rule, I found the NCAC order fairly easy to decide (Wabash>Witt>Denison). And I dropped JCU behind all three non-tourney CCIW teams for their loss to a team from a sub-par conference that I don't think had won a tourney game in a decade or so (I had already dropped them behind NCC before the tourney began).

CollegeGolf18 · January 06, 2019, 02:16:59 PM

I'm curious as to the NCAC reasoning in Column 1.

wally_wabash · January 07, 2019, 09:16:36 AM

I'm in column 2 and I actually didn't touch my ballot from Week 11 to the end of the playoffs. Things that I think could have moved:
- JCU sliding below NCC (which I had already done prior to Week 11)
- Trine sliding back behind any number of CCIWs (which I had already done) and NCACs (which I ultimately didn't do)

I didn't penalize Denison for their round 1 game. I really can't say with certainty that other NCAC co-champs would have done better in that spot in a meaningful way.

I do think it's telling, and not in a good way, that half of the NRFP top 10 were not playoff participants. And after a year where only two North Region teams survived to the second round, and just one beyond that, the North RAC ought to take a long, hard look at what they're doing. The last team in the field (Muhlenberg) was a national quarterfinalist and there were North region options that would have challenged Muhlenberg's invitiation. In our pregame from the Johns Hopkins-RPI quarterfinal, Frank Rossi and I had the opportunity to interview J.J. Nekoloff from the ODAC. J.J. serves on the South RAC and he had some telling comments about the way that committee ranks teams in a way to maximize their opportunities for at-large invitations. The North RAC could and should be a little more nuanced with their rankings and be giving the best teams the best shot to get invited. [/rant]