FB: Region 4 fan poll

[USee]

Just heard on the d3fb podcast that Rutter had a broken rib during the Wheaton game. I think if NCC wins the Stagg UMU should be strongly considered for #2 in the north region poll

He broke the rib when he got hit by our MLB on the first series. Wheaton beat them by 14 and Mt Union lost by 7 and you think UMU is ranked higher than Wheaton because of a broken rib? Seriously? I guess people can rationalize anything.

[WRMUalum13]

Just heard on the d3fb podcast that Rutter had a broken rib during the Wheaton game. I think if NCC wins the Stagg UMU should be strongly considered for #2 in the north region poll

He broke the rib when he got hit by our MLB on the first series. Wheaton beat them by 14 and Mt Union lost by 7 and you think UMU is ranked higher than Wheaton because of a broken rib? Seriously? I guess people can rationalize anything.

I'm a Mount Union fan of course I'm going to rationalize... however it's not crazy to think that an NCC team with a fully healthy Rutter doesn't lose to Wheaton right? Not to mention the fact That teams change from week to week they tend to get better or worse, and don't always play to the same ability. NCC has been rolling on all cylinders since the playoffs started. I don't think Wheaton would beat the week 16 version. But then again if they loseto UWW this post will sound pretty dumb

[USee]

Just heard on the d3fb podcast that Rutter had a broken rib during the Wheaton game. I think if NCC wins the Stagg UMU should be strongly considered for #2 in the north region poll

He broke the rib when he got hit by our MLB on the first series. Wheaton beat them by 14 and Mt Union lost by 7 and you think UMU is ranked higher than Wheaton because of a broken rib? Seriously? I guess people can rationalize anything.

I'm a Mount Union fan of course I'm going to rationalize... however it's not crazy to think that an NCC team with a fully healthy Rutter doesn't lose to Wheaton right? Not to mention the fact That teams change from week to week they tend to get better or worse, and don't always play to the same ability. NCC has been rolling on all cylinders since the playoffs started. I don't think Wheaton would beat the week 16 version. But then again if they loseto UWW this post will sound pretty dumb

You realize Rutter broke his rib before he threw for a single yard in the Wheaton game? He then went on (in the first half) to throw for 3 TD's and 250+ yds. He finished with somewhere near 390 and Wheaton shut them out in the second half. Wheaton manhandled their front on both sides of the ball. Thats why the Thunder won. I don't care where you rank these teams as its all for fun but to suggest Rutter was in any way limited in the Wheaton game, or that had anything to do with the outcome would be as much lunacy as me saying the only reason StJ won was because we had our db's trip and fall down on 3 of 5 TD passes for the first time all year (which is true).

[HScoach]

I'm as big a Mount homer as there is, but I can't see anyway a Mount team that surrendered 59 points at home should be ranked higher than a Wheaton team that beat NCC.  I'm fully aware that teams change over the course of a season and the better team doesn't always win, but Mount had multiple chances to put NCC away and didn't.  And had chances late to get back in it and couldn't.  Mount wasn't anywhere near the better team that day.  It wasn't a fluke win by NCC.  They owned the Mount D that day.  And the Mount O faded after halftime.  Clear NCC win.

I can see an argument for who should be #1, but not #2.  #2 is whichever of Wheaton or NCC ins't #1.  In my mind it's 1 vs 2 or 2 vs 1, but after that it's easily Mount 3rd.  Unless NCC steamrolls UWW tonight, I would still put Wheaton above NCC.  Wheaton was every bit as good as SJU which was every bit as good as UWW.  So I think they're all basically equal.  If UWW wins then NCC is clearly #2.  If NCC wins a squeaker like UWW did over SJU and SJU did over Wheaton, then it gets interesting.  If NCC wins going away, then they're #1 in my mind.   
#1 Wheaton or NCC
#2 Wheaton or NCC
#3 Mount
#4 thru #10 meh......

[WRMUalum13]

I'm as big a Mount homer as there is, but I can't see anyway a Mount team that surrendered 59 points at home should be ranked higher than a Wheaton team that beat NCC.  I'm fully aware that teams change over the course of a season and the better team doesn't always win, but Mount had multiple chances to put NCC away and didn't.  And had chances late to get back in it and couldn't.  Mount wasn't anywhere near the better team that day.  It wasn't a fluke win by NCC.  They owned the Mount D that day.  And the Mount O faded after halftime.  Clear NCC win.

I can see an argument for who should be #1, but not #2.  #2 is whichever of Wheaton or NCC ins't #1.  In my mind it's 1 vs 2 or 2 vs 1, but after that it's easily Mount 3rd.  Unless NCC steamrolls UWW tonight, I would still put Wheaton above NCC.  Wheaton was every bit as good as SJU which was every bit as good as UWW.  So I think they're all basically equal.  If UWW wins then NCC is clearly #2.  If NCC wins a squeaker like UWW did over SJU and SJU did over Wheaton, then it gets interesting.  If NCC wins going away, then they're #1 in my mind.   
#1 Wheaton or NCC
#2 Wheaton or NCC
#3 Mount
#4 thru #10 meh......

That 59 points is pretty damning, I'll certainly admit. I'm just saying when your all-American QB has broken ribs I don't think it's a fair comparison compared to when he's at full strength. Rutter only threw two tds in the first half against Wheaton and 1 in the 2nd btw. If NCC beats Wheaton 42-35 in the regular season are we still having this discussion?

I don't necessarily think UMU is #2 I just think it's worth considering

And I don't mean to disrespect Wheaton at all! They represented the north region well this year, and I really would love to have seen them play against UWW. I was rooting for a LBB game rematch after UMU lost.

[USee]

Broc Rutter's ribs had nothing to do with them losing to Wheaton. That's insane. Rutter threw for 250 yds in the first half. He also threw a 55 yd TD bomb in that game. Wheaton sacked him 7 times. Was that Rutter's fault?

Wheaton won up front on both sides and that's why they won.

[HScoach]

1.  NCC
2.  Wheaton
3.  Mount Union

[WRMUalum13]

1.  NCC
2.  Wheaton
3.  Mount Union

Cmon, Wheaton lost to the team that lost to the team that got DOMINATED in this years Stagg, we saw the real title game in Alliance.

[Li'l Giant]

I haven't put any thought yet into which teams will be 4-10 on my end of the year ballot but I'll tell you right now my 1-3 will look just like this.

1.  NCC
2.  Wheaton
3.  Mount Union

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

I will say that North Central pretty much had to win tonight to be #1 on my ballot over Wheaton. They certainly did that. I could see someone trying to stick Mount ahead of Wheaton but it won't be me. However I think they ended up closer than I expected if we were rating them rather than ranking.
My 4 and 5 are also locked in. Now to try to figure out what teams who shouldn't even sniff the rankings end up in there because someone has to.

[Mr. Ypsi]

1.  NCC
2.  Wheaton
3.  Mount Union

Cmon, Wheaton lost to the team that lost to the team that got DOMINATED in this years Stagg, we saw the real title game in Alliance.

I thought I already posted this, but apparently not.  The transitive principal (especially THIRD hand) does not outweigh the fact that Wheaton beat NCC.  The final standings are clearly NCC, Wheaton, UMU.  #4 is an issue I haven't yet addressed, but I am currently leaning to Aurora, who gave fits to SJU.

[USee]

This ones easy. What do you do with the national poll? That's crazy town.

[WRMUalum13]

This ones easy. What do you do with the national poll? That's crazy town.

Well the national poll looks crazy to me. UMU #3 and Wheaton #5. UWW #2? Did the pollsters not watch the Stagg bowl?

[Captain_Joe08]

Sent my ballot in. Pretty straightfoward in my book.

[HScoach]

This ones easy. What do you do with the national poll? That's crazy town.

Well the national poll looks crazy to me. UMU #3 and Wheaton #5. UWW #2? Did the pollsters not watch the Stagg bowl?

Putting UWW in the 2 slot is lazy.