FB: Region 4 fan poll

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

I'm column 3 this week.

I bumped up Alma and DePauw over Trine.

[HOPEful]

I'm column 2.

If you don't already know how I feel about RR's, just head over to the Pool C board. I think the 6th and 7th spot in Region 4 are the perfect example of why RR's shouldn't exist. Why in the world would we want to elevate wins and losses against Heidelberg and DePauw as though they're crowning achievements?

[wally_wabash]

I'm either Column 1 or 8. The only change I made in my ballot was flipping Wabash in for DePauw based on how each team has looked in the past two weeks.

I'm also 1/8.  I moved Wabash in.  I'm not sure they're going to hit my 14ppg allowed goal during the Oberlin/Hiram/Kenyon stretch, but they've been improving defensively and Liam Thompson is doing historic things that we probably don't talk nearly enough about.  Last week he smashed the NCAC consecutive completions record and I'm not sure people noticed.  He's made the exceptional look routine. 

Some other adjustments I made- I moved JCU and Alma ahead of MSJ.  I didn't love MSJ trailing in the 4th quarter at Hanover- that result obscures the closeness of that game. MSJ had been 3 on my ballot for a while, but barely.  I needed to see them play again against somebody not in the bottom half of the HCAC.

[HOPEful]

I didn't love MSJ trailing in the 4th quarter at Hanover- that result obscures the closeness of that game. MSJ had been 3 on my ballot for a while, but barely.  I needed to see them play again against somebody not in the bottom half of the HCAC.

MSJ was very high in my rankings after beating Baldwin Wallace and Hope teams that are just not as good as we thought they'd be this season. They then played Manchester, Defiance, and Anderson... opponents that really tell you little to nothing about MSJ. Being down 29-23 in the fourth quarter to Hanover is problematic.

Kudos to the schedulers for giving us Alma v. Albion, MSJ v. Rose Hulman, and DePauw v. Wabash as the final games of the regular season in what all look to be de facto conference championship games!

[wally_wabash]

Calvin might get a point in this poll next week. 

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

Calvin might get a point in this poll next week.

Or Earlham... ok, maybe it's not quite that bad.

Edit: I just noticed Calvin is finally willing to play (foot)ball with the rest of the conference. Now if we can get Earlham to end their hiatus and Transylvania to join in... it probably won't make that much difference for rankings.

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

Week 9

https://imgur.com/a/pdECS3l

Voters: CollegeGolf18, Dr. Acula, FCGG, HOPEful, Kira & Jaxon's Dad, Li'l Giant, smedindy, and wally_wabash

[HOPEful]

So we're all in relative agreement that there are 6 teams worth ranking and the seventh is a game of eenie meenie miney moe? lol

And to beat a dead horse, this is exactly why I hate RRs. Why in the world would you elevate a result against Baldwin Wallace to special RR status?! I'm sure they'll lose to Mount and fall of this list, but I would say the same thing about DePauw, Wabash, Trine, or any other team...

[D3fanboy]

So we're all in relative agreement that there are 6 teams worth ranking and the seventh is a game of eenie meenie miney moe? lol

And to beat a dead horse, this is exactly why I hate RRs. Why in the world would you elevate a result against Baldwin Wallace to special RR status?! I'm sure they'll lose to Mount and fall of this list, but I would say the same thing about DePauw, Wabash, Trine, or any other team...

BW has to finish with @Berg and Mount, 6-4 and far from RR status is the most likely outcome for the Yellow Jackets

[HOPEful]

So we're all in relative agreement that there are 6 teams worth ranking and the seventh is a game of eenie meenie miney moe? lol

And to beat a dead horse, this is exactly why I hate RRs. Why in the world would you elevate a result against Baldwin Wallace to special RR status?! I'm sure they'll lose to Mount and fall of this list, but I would say the same thing about DePauw, Wabash, Trine, or any other team...

BW has to finish with @Berg and Mount, 6-4 and far from RR status is the most likely outcome for the Yellow Jackets

Agreed. But whoever moves into that spot will be equally undeserving of RR status. The point isn't really about BW, but the arbitrary line being drawn between 7 and 8....

[smedindy]

Any type of ranking or slotting system will have a team above the line and below. I think the RRs work well with the Pool C process, such as it is.

[smedindy]

I had B-W sixth and Heidelberg 7th. I think B-W can beat 'Berg, and play Mount reasonably okay.

[Dr. Acula]

I'm one of the three who had Wabash at 7 this week.  I moved them in at 7 in place of DePauw this week after debating it a lot last week.  With both Wabash and Berg I view them as 1 loss teams still since no one else in consideration has played Mount/NCC. 

BW @ Berg and JCU @ Mount this weekend should help clarify things in the OAC.

[smedindy]

BW @ Berg and JCU @ Mount this weekend should help clarify things in the OAC.

Or make a holy mess of it like the WAC

[D3fanboy]

BW @ Berg and JCU @ Mount this weekend should help clarify things in the OAC.

Or make a holy mess of it like the WAC

lol

BW looks to be 6-4 again, which is celebrated in Berea