FB: Region 4 fan poll

[wally_wabash]

I would probably vote for Chicago this weekend if they make that trip out to Oregon and beat that team.  That team that rolled up Adrian earlier this season...that's a hard common opponent result to ignore.  That, plus one of Wheaton or IWU (my current 8 and 9 teams) are going to lose.  Chicago would have a better win than the loser of that game and makes for a difficult choice. 

[USee]

Hopefully I made up for my tardiness last week by having already submitted my 10 to Wes for this week!

[ExTartanPlayer]

With Olivet's win over Adrian and Wooster taking down Denison...does Olivet have to get consideration for the coveted 10 spot?

[smedindy]

I'm throwing a nickel to Hope. I considered Olivet and Greenville, but man, it's tough to distinguish between those teams now.

[DPU3619]

Hopefully I made up for my tardiness last week by having already submitted my 10 to Wes for this week!

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

I'm probably the last one in this week... got home from Tennessee yesterday and got part of my top 25 ballot done but finishing catching up today. The top 9 are all in the top 17 on my Top 25 ballot... 10th though... there's four teams from the MIAA with 2 or fewer losses... there's Greenville who is 8-0... there's other teams with 2 losses that shouldn't even be in the discussion but with no one really wanting that 10th spot are still out there on the far fringes of the radar like Baldwin-Wallace, Mt St Joseph, Benedictine, Concordia WI, and Chicago.

I finally settled on a 10th team and my guess is the majority went with them as well.

[DPU3619]

Here's the North Region Fan Poll.  Football's over for me, so look at me being productive on a Monday! We've got a full hot tub this week. Everybody's in, so 80 possible points.


1.   Mount Union       80 pts (1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1)
2.   Franklin              69 pts (2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3)
3.   North Central      62 pts (2, 2, 2, 3, 4, 4, 4, 5)
4.   Wabash              54 pts (3, 3, 4, 4, 4, 4, 5, 7)
5.   John Carroll        46 pts (3, 3, 5, 5, 5, 6, 7, 8)
6.   Heidelberg          36 pts (4, 6, 6, 6, 6, 7, 8, 9)
T7. Illinois Wesleyan 34 pts (5, 6, 6, 7, 7, 7, 8, 8)
T7. Wittenberg         34 pts (5, 5, 6, 7, 7, 8, 8, 8)
9.   Wheaton            17 pts (8, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9)
10.  Hope                   5 pts (10, 10, 10, 10, 10, -, -, -)

ARV
Olivet                        2 pts (10, 10, -, -, -, -, -, -)
Greenville                  1 pt (10, -, -, -, -, -, -, -)

The North Region Fan Poll is voted on by Usee, smedindy, wally_wabash, NCF, Li'l Giant, Mr. Ypsi, FCGrizzliesGrad, and myself.

[wally_wabash]

Here's the North Region Fan Poll.  Football's over for me, so look at me being productive on a Monday! We've got a full hot tub this week. Everybody's in, so 80 possible points.


1.   Mount Union       80 pts (1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1)
2.   Franklin              69 pts (2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3)
3.   North Central      62 pts (2, 2, 2, 3, 4, 4, 4, 5)
4.   Wabash              54 pts (3, 3, 4, 4, 4, 4, 5, 7)
5.   John Carroll        46 pts (3, 3, 5, 5, 5, 6, 7, 8)
6.   Heidelberg          36 pts (4, 6, 6, 6, 6, 7, 8, 9)
T7. Illinois Wesleyan 34 pts (5, 6, 6, 7, 7, 7, 8, 8)
T7. Wittenberg         34 pts (5, 5, 6, 7, 7, 8, 8, 8)
9.   Wheaton            17 pts (8, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9)
10.  Hope                   5 pts (10, 10, 10, 10, 10, -, -, -)

ARV
Olivet                        2 pts (10, 10, -, -, -, -, -, -)
Greenville                  1 pt (10, -, -, -, -, -, -, -)

The North Region Fan Poll is voted on by Usee, smedindy, wally_wabash, NCF, Li'l Giant, Mr. Ypsi, FCGrizzliesGrad, and myself.

It was me!  I voted for Greenville.  Adrian lost, Denison lost, I don't like Baldwin-Wallace all that much, Chicago lost...sort of came down to Hope, Olivet, and Greenville and I've decided to reward 8-0 there.  8-0 is a strong accomplishment regardless of league.  And really as long as nobody else wants to win a big game (yes, I see you Olivet) and claim that spot, I'm giving it to Greenville. 

As for the rest...UMU and Franklin remain my top two.  I shuffled John Carroll up to third this week.  What they've done defensively for 7 games is crazy.  We wait one more week for the Streaks to see how that defense holds up against some real offensive power. 

Carroll up to third means Wabash goes back to 4th and North Central to 5th.  Kind of a ho-hummer for Wabash on Saturday (which made it a little easier to move JCU up, but I think I was going to do that anyway). 

Heidelberg and Wittenberg stick at 6 and 7 for me.  IWU and Wheaton flipped positions at 8 and 9 thanks to the h2h.  I spent some time thinking about where to put IWU after beating Wheaton and how many teams they should jump, but I really couldn't find a compellng reason to move them up and over anybody in front of them.  These were my 8 and 9 teams last week, they played a relatively close game (Wheaton inside the 5 with a chance to take the lead, they fail, IWU scores a late TD to give the 11 point margin), so I think these teams are pretty close to one another and still a shade behind the top 7. 

And then Greenville at 10. 

[Mr. Ypsi]

Haven't posted my ballot in awhile:

Here's the North Region Fan Poll.  Football's over for me, so look at me being productive on a Monday! We've got a full hot tub this week. Everybody's in, so 80 possible points.


1.   Mount Union       80 pts (1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1)
2.   Franklin              69 pts (2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3)
3.   North Central      62 pts (2, 2, 2, 3, 4, 4, 4, 5)
4.   Wabash              54 pts (3, 3, 4, 4, 4, 4, 5, 7)
5.   John Carroll        46 pts (3, 3, 5, 5, 5, 6, 7, 8)
6.   Heidelberg          36 pts (4, 6, 6, 6, 6, 7, 8, 9)
T7. Illinois Wesleyan 34 pts (5, 6, 6, 7, 7, 7, 8, 8)
T7. Wittenberg         34 pts (5, 5, 6, 7, 7, 8, 8, 8)
9.   Wheaton            17 pts (8, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9)
10.  Hope                   5 pts (10, 10, 10, 10, 10, -, -, -)

ARV
Olivet                        2 pts (10, 10, -, -, -, -, -, -)
Greenville                  1 pt (10, -, -, -, -, -, -, -)

The North Region Fan Poll is voted on by Usee, smedindy, wally_wabash, NCF, Li'l Giant, Mr. Ypsi, FCGrizzliesGrad, and myself.

IWU's win over Wheaton (which I predicted in both the CCIW and MIAA Pick 'ems ), shook things up a bit.  The question was how far the Titans rise?  I jumped them over JCU, Heidi, and (of course) Wheaton - none of the others has a win as impressive as IWU over Wheaton.  (JCU has been doing it in more impressive fashion, but is pulverizing a tomato can that much better than simply soundly beating them?)

#10 came down to an MIAA team by lack of appealing alternatives (once Denison lost).  Albion is the undefeated conference leader, but they were absolutely destroyed in their two OOC losses (and Central is not looking as good as expected).  It was tempting to tab Olivet, who is 6-1 and just knocked Adrian out of the spot, but Hope beat them by 33.  Hope's two losses were both quite respectable (by 7 @ IWU - my #9 Wheaton just lost by 11 @ IWU - and by 3 to Adrian), so Hope it is.

[USee]

Here's the North Region Fan Poll.  Football's over for me, so look at me being productive on a Monday! We've got a full hot tub this week. Everybody's in, so 80 possible points.


1.   Mount Union       80 pts (1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1)
2.   Franklin              69 pts (2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3)
3.   North Central      62 pts (2, 2, 2, 3, 4, 4, 4, 5)
4.   Wabash              54 pts (3, 3, 4, 4, 4, 4, 5, 7)
5.   John Carroll        46 pts (3, 3, 5, 5, 5, 6, 7, 8)
6.   Heidelberg          36 pts (4, 6, 6, 6, 6, 7, 8, 9)
T7. Illinois Wesleyan 34 pts (5, 6, 6, 7, 7, 7, 8, 8)
T7. Wittenberg         34 pts (5, 5, 6, 7, 7, 8, 8, 8)
9.   Wheaton            17 pts (8, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9)
10.  Hope                   5 pts (10, 10, 10, 10, 10, -, -, -)

ARV
Olivet                        2 pts (10, 10, -, -, -, -, -, -)
Greenville                  1 pt (10, -, -, -, -, -, -, -)

The North Region Fan Poll is voted on by Usee, smedindy, wally_wabash, NCF, Li'l Giant, Mr. Ypsi, FCGrizzliesGrad, and myself.

Here are my picks. No changes at the top for me with UMU, Franklin, JCU and NCC. #5-8 are interchangeable to me as I just don't see any evidence of one being better than the others. IWU has all the tools to beat NCC but will have to protect the ball this week. Wabash has a good defense but I am not yet convinced they can beat good teams with their offense. Heidi has been winning but no signature wins yet. Witt will get their chance in a couple weeks. I moved Wheaton to #9 and slotted Hope at #10.

[wally_wabash]

49 points per game (5th nationally) isn't enough?  Tough room...

[ADL70]

49 points per game (5th nationally) isn't enough?  Tough room...

"good teams"?  But they can only play the teams on their schedule.

[wally_wabash]

49 points per game (5th nationally) isn't enough?  Tough room...

"good teams"?  But they can only play the teams on their schedule.

Here are the best five results in the region through EIGHT weeks of the season:
Mount Union defeats Franklin 30-27
Franklin loses to Mount Union 27-30
Franklin loses to Butler 28-31
IWU defeats Wheaton 30-19
Olivet defeats Adrian 21-17

80 percent of the season is over and three of the best five results in the region involve one team, two of them are losses that are more impressive than anything anybody else has done in victory, and another result involves teams that aren't even ranked in the NRFP. 

So no, Wabash hasn't played or beaten teams that are particularly good.  Neither has anybody else. 

[smedindy]

I was going to add Adrian's game against Pacific, but it was a 10-point loss...

[USee]

49 points per game (5th nationally) isn't enough?  Tough room...

"good teams"?  But they can only play the teams on their schedule.

Here are the best five results in the region through EIGHT weeks of the season:
Mount Union defeats Franklin 30-27
Franklin loses to Mount Union 27-30
Franklin loses to Butler 28-31
IWU defeats Wheaton 30-19
Olivet defeats Adrian 21-17

80 percent of the season is over and three of the best five results in the region involve one team, two of them are losses that are more impressive than anything anybody else has done in victory, and another result involves teams that aren't even ranked in the NRFP. 

So no, Wabash hasn't played or beaten teams that are particularly good.  Neither has anybody else.

North Central beat UWSP by 20 (who lost by 1 pt to Platteville). While I wouldn't  put that result up there with some of the games listed, I feel like I have a much better feel for how good they are then I do for the teams behind them. As far as Wabash, I group them (as I said) with the teams I ranked 5-8 because none of them has done anything to distinguish themselves YET. Wheaton drops a bit because they have had too many injuries and the backups aren't playing well enough at this point.