FB: Region 4 fan poll

[DPU3619]

Here's this week's North Region Fan Poll.  Sorry for the delay, folks.  It's usually Thursday before I can catch my breath long enough to get this done.  Getting more tightly bunched at the top, but certainly no closer to agreeing on who is the #2 team.

1. Mount Union           80 pts (1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1)
2. North Central          66 pts (2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 5)
3. Heidelberg              61 pts (2, 2, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4, 5)
4. Illinois Wesleyan      60 pts (2, 2, 3, 3, 4, 4, 5, 5)
5. Wasbash                53 pts (3, 4, 4, 4, 5, 5, 5, 5)
6. Elmhurst                30 pts (6, 7, 7, 7, 7, 7, 8, 9)
7. Wittenberg             29 pts (6, 6, 6, 6, 7, 8, 9, -)
8. Franklin                  23 pts (6, 6, 7, 8, 9, 9, 10, 10)
9. Otterbein               16 pts  (6, 7, 8, 9, 9, -, -, -)
10. Concordia (Ill)         9 pts (8, 8, 10, 10, 10, -, -, -)

ARV
Wheaton                      6 pts (8, 9, 10, -, -, -, -, -)
Ohio Wesleyan              5 pts (8, 10, 10, -, -, -, -, -)
Baldwin-Wallace            2 pts (9, -, -, -, -, -, -,- -)

The North Region Fan Poll is voted on by Wes Anderson, wally_wabash, smedindy, ADL70, Mr. Ypsi, FCGrizzlesGrad, newcardfan, and short.

[wally_wabash]

Time for the weekly journey through my thought process...

Mount Union remains, by a LONG ways, at the top of my list.  I know their schedule stinks so far, but seriously.  7 points all season long.  Good grief. 

One week after launching Otterbein all the way up to #2, they go and get bageled by Heidelberg so...so much for that.  With Otterbein losing, I've moved IWU up one spot to #2 and Heidelberg up one to #3.  You could probably push Heidelberg in front of IWU if you wanted because Heidelberg has a good win so far, IWU is just getting into the meaty part of their schedule.  I'm giving IWU the nod for the moment...to be confirmed or proven outright wrong this weekend. 

Now we get to teams that have lost.  Wabash goes up one spot to #4 for me, North Central up one to #5, and finally Otterbein slides in at #6.  Wabash and North Central are an interesting case.  They both lost games, at home, to heavy underdogs.  It's a wash there for me (is UW-L "better" than Allegheny?  Maybe, I don't know.  I don't think either is particularly "good", so we'd just be arguing degrees of mediocre).  Wabash, however, has a road win at Witt which is better than anything North Central has done so far (Elmhurst helped the Cardinals out last week though).  Otterbein grades out better than the next team in my line, #7 Wittenberg. 

Next up I have Concordia-Chicago at #8.  They grade out well on schedule strength, and Lake Forest just keeps on helping the Cougs out.  My #9 is Elmhurst, who I feel like I'm undervaluing a bit here, but this is where I put them.  My #10 is Franklin.  Apologies to OWU this week, who got leaped by Elmhurst who just had a solid result that was far superior to any win on OWU's schedule.  Beat CMU this weekend, and OWU will get in and Franklin will be gone.  Also lingering just outside the 10 for me (in order) are B-W, Adrian, and Wheaton. 

[smedindy]

LAX is rated a lot higher on Massey than Allegheny. Part of that is the WIAC and the other part is the close game they played with Oshkosh along with their North Central win. But still it's meh vs. meh.

[DPU3619]

This week's North Region Fan Poll.

1. Mount Union           80 pts (1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1)
2. North Central          68 pts (2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4)
3. Heidelberg              65 pts (2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 4)
4. Wabash                 58 pts (3, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4, 4, 5)
5. Elmhurst                39 pts (4, 5, 5, 5, 7, 7, 8, 8)
6. Illinois Wesleyan      34 pts (5, 6, 6, 6, 7, 8, 8, 8)
7. Wittenberg             29 pts (5, 6, 6, 6, 7, 9, 9, -)
8. Franklin                  22 pts (5, 6, 7, 8, 10, 10, 10 ,10)
9. Wheaton                19 pts (5, 6, 7, 8, 9, -, -, -,)
10. Ohio Wesleyan       15 pts (7, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 10, -)

ARV:
Concordia (Ill.)            10 pts (7, 8, 10, 10, 10, -, -, -)

The North Region Fan Poll is voted on by Wes Anderson, wally_wabash, smedindy, ADL70, Mr. Ypsi, FCGrizzlesGrad, newcardfan, and short.

[NCF]

This week's North Region Fan Poll.

1. Mount Union           80 pts (1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1)
2. North Central          68 pts (2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4)
3. Heidelberg              65 pts (2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 4)
4. Wabash                 58 pts (3, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4, 4, 5)
5. Elmhurst                39 pts (4, 5, 5, 5, 7, 7, 8, 8)
6. Illinois Wesleyan      34 pts (5, 6, 6, 6, 7, 8, 8, 8)
7. Wittenberg             29 pts (5, 6, 6, 6, 7, 9, 9, -)
8. Franklin                  22 pts (5, 6, 7, 8, 10, 10, 10 ,10)
9. Wheaton                19 pts (5, 6, 7, 8, 9, -, -, -,)
10. Ohio Wesleyan       15 pts (7, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 10, -)

ARV:
Concordia (Ill.)            10 pts (7, 8, 10, 10, 10, -, -, -)

The North Region Fan Poll is voted on by Wes Anderson, wally_wabash, smedindy, ADL70, Mr. Ypsi, FCGrizzlesGrad, newcardfan, and short.

Looks like we are finally starting to see some consensus.

[wally_wabash]

Just a couple of major moves for me this week...

- Otterbein out, OWU in.  Is it fair to penalize Otterbein for losing to Mount Union?  Probably not, but I think this is less a punishment for Otterbein as it is a recognition of Ohio Wesleyan. The Bishops won a good road game and showed some real grit coming from behind (twice) to do it.  It's time for these guys to be on this list. 

- I felt like I had undervalued Elmhurst last week, and the IWU/Wheaton result made it really easy and logical to adjust that.  I bumped Elmhurst up to 5, IWU down to 7, which makes sense given results against common opponents.

Other than that, everybody just below IWU last week shimmied up one spot.  Relatively calm week on my ballot this time around. 

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

Looks like we are finally starting to see some consensus.

Consensus? I must disagree with you on that We can't be having consensus around here... am I going to have to throw Hanover on my ballot next week to shake things up?

My ballot went similar to Wally's... IWU fell from 4th to 8th which moved Heidelberg up 1, Elmhurst up 2 because they leaped Witt, and Concordia up 1. Then Otterbein fell out from 9th but Wheaton leaped both OWU and Franklin to replace them leaving Franklin and OWU in 10th and 11th just like last week.

[NCF]

Looks like we are finally starting to see some consensus.

Consensus? I must disagree with you on that We can't be having consensus around here... am I going to have to throw Hanover on my ballot next week to shake things up?

My ballot went similar to Wally's... IWU fell from 4th to 8th which moved Heidelberg up 1, Elmhurst up 2 because they leaped Witt, and Concordia up 1. Then Otterbein fell out from 9th but Wheaton leaped both OWU and Franklin to replace them leaving Franklin and OWU in 10th and 11th just like last week.

This almost sounds like the scarecrow telling the Tin Man what the winged monkeys did , "They tore my legs off and threw them over there. Then they took my chest out and threw it over there"...... that's the poll, all over the place, and a different place every week

[DPU3619]

I'm just glad to see it relatively similar from one week to the next. IWU's loss hurt them, but that's just about the only major change. 

Tough week to be the guy who votes IWU #2 every week...

[DPU3619]

Here's the North Region Fan Poll:

1. Mount Union          80 pts (1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1)
2. North Central         70 pts (2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3)
3. Wabash                60 pts (2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4, 5)
4 Heidelberg              59 pts (2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4, 6)
5. Elmhurst               47 pts (4, 4, 5, 5, 5, 6, 6, 6)
6. Wittenberg            36 pts (5, 5, 6, 7, 7, 7, 7, 8)
7. Franklin                 29 pts (5, 6, 6, 7, 8, 9, 9, 10)
8. Concordia (Ill.)       23 pts (7, 7, 8, 8, 8, 8, 9, 10)
9. Wheaton               22 pts (5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 10, )
10. Ohio Wesleyan      12 pts (8, 9, 9, 9, 9, 10, -, -)

ARV:
Baldwin-Wallace          3 pts (10, 10, 10, -, -, -, -, -)


The North Region Fan Poll is voted on by Wes Anderson, wally_wabash, smedindy, ADL70, Mr. Ypsi, FCGrizzlesGrad, newcardfan, and short.

[NCF]

Here's the North Region Fan Poll:

1. Mount Union          80 pts (1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1)
2. North Central         70 pts (2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3)
3. Wabash                60 pts (2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4, 5)
4 Heidelberg              59 pts (2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4, 6)
5. Elmhurst               47 pts (4, 4, 5, 5, 5, 6, 6, 6)
6. Wittenberg            36 pts (5, 5, 6, 7, 7, 7, 7, 8)
7. Franklin                 29 pts (5, 6, 6, 7, 8, 9, 9, 10)
8. Concordia (Ill.)       23 pts (7, 7, 8, 8, 8, 8, 9, 10)
9. Wheaton               22 pts (5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 10, )
10. Ohio Wesleyan      12 pts (8, 9, 9, 9, 9, 10, -, -)

ARV:
Baldwin-Wallace          3 pts (10, 10, 10, -, -, -, -, -)


The North Region Fan Poll is voted on by Wes Anderson, wally_wabash, smedindy, ADL70, Mr. Ypsi, FCGrizzlesGrad, newcardfan, and short.

Definitely starting to shape up.

[wally_wabash]

Not a ton of change on my ballot this week. 

- I didn't crush Heidelberg for the Mount Union loss.  Moved them down to #4 which slides Wabash and North Central up to 2 and 3, respectively.  I had to move Heidelberg below those two because they just don't have any quality wins there. 

- Elmhurst and Wittenberg remained locked in at 5 and 6 for me.

- Last week's #7, IWU, has fallen out.  Feel bad for the Titans, but the last five quarters of football have been just brutal for them.  Sliding up to take their spot in 7th is CUC for me.  Hey, they are undefeated and they have a win over another probable league champion...which nobody else on this list can say (Wabash may wind up with two such wins). 

- Franklin is up to 8.  I actually moved OWU up one spot to 9 this week.  Don't let the final score from the Wabash game fool you...OWU is a very good team.  I'll echo a sentiment from the NCAC forum that I think they could beat Wittenberg right now.  But on the poll here, the common result vs. Wabash (both at home, both were homecomings) compels me to keep OWU behind Witt. 

- And then I've placed Wheaton back in at #10.  Maybe temporarily...so Adrian and B-W, you're on deck. 

[DPU3619]

Not a ton of change on my ballot this week. 

No, me either.  Although, this is first week in a few that nothing ridiculous happened.  That helps.

[NCF]

Not a ton of change on my ballot this week. 

No, me either.  Although, this is first week in a few that nothing ridiculous happened.  That helps.

We still have two weeks to go-let's hope it stays that way

[Mr. Ypsi]

Not a ton of change on my ballot this week. 

No, me either.  Although, this is first week in a few that nothing ridiculous happened.  That helps.

We still have two weeks to go-let's hope it stays that way

Way to jinx your own team, newcardfan!  NCC dominated (at home) by Wheaton; meanwhile, Wabash is dominated (at home) by Oberlin (Oberlin!) - what a mess to vote on this week!

How to sort the CCIW cluster?  Wheaton dominated NCC, NCC destroyed Elmhurst, Elmhurst barely beat Wheaton, but is the only one with only one loss!

And what about the NCAC?  Wabash beat both OWU and Witt on the road, but OWU beat both Allegheny and Oberlin, while Witt beat Allegheny and will probably beat Oberlin next week (and OWU and Witt don't meet this year)!

Right now I'm leaning towards the OAC duo on top, then the CCIW triplets (in whatever order), followed by the NCAC trio (in whatever order), with Franklin and CUC (perhaps even Adrian) sprinkled in somewhere, but a lot of head-scratching before I submit my ballot (which has usually been in by now).