FB: Region 4 fan poll

[NCF]

Not a ton of change on my ballot this week. 

No, me either.  Although, this is first week in a few that nothing ridiculous happened.  That helps.

We still have two weeks to go-let's hope it stays that way

spoke too soon

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

Can we just put Mount Union for all the slots? I wonder if I could get away with putting Anderson, Hiram, Olivet and Marietta on my ballot. They have about the same chance of losing as anyone else we'll put on

[NCF]

Not a ton of change on my ballot this week. 

No, me either.  Although, this is first week in a few that nothing ridiculous happened.  That helps.

We still have two weeks to go-let's hope it stays that way

Way to jinx your own team, newcardfan!  NCC dominated (at home) by Wheaton; meanwhile, Wabash is dominated (at home) by Oberlin (Oberlin!) - what a mess to vote on this week!

How to sort the CCIW cluster?  Wheaton dominated NCC, NCC destroyed Elmhurst, Elmhurst barely beat Wheaton, but is the only one with only one loss!

And what about the NCAC?  Wabash beat both OWU and Witt on the road, but OWU beat both Allegheny and Oberlin, while Witt beat Allegheny and will probably beat Oberlin next week (and OWU and Witt don't meet this year)!

Right now I'm leaning towards the OAC duo on top, then the CCIW triplets (in whatever order), followed by the NCAC trio (in whatever order), with Franklin and CUC (perhaps even Adrian) sprinkled in somewhere, but a lot of head-scratching before I submit my ballot (which has usually been in by now).

I didn't jinx them, they just played like $&*# today. And who would have thought Wabash would lose?

[wally_wabash]

Not a ton of change on my ballot this week. 

No, me either.  Although, this is first week in a few that nothing ridiculous happened.  That helps.

We still have two weeks to go-let's hope it stays that way

Way to jinx your own team, newcardfan!  NCC dominated (at home) by Wheaton; meanwhile, Wabash is dominated (at home) by Oberlin (Oberlin!) - what a mess to vote on this week!

How to sort the CCIW cluster?  Wheaton dominated NCC, NCC destroyed Elmhurst, Elmhurst barely beat Wheaton, but is the only one with only one loss!

And what about the NCAC?  Wabash beat both OWU and Witt on the road, but OWU beat both Allegheny and Oberlin, while Witt beat Allegheny and will probably beat Oberlin next week (and OWU and Witt don't meet this year)!

Right now I'm leaning towards the OAC duo on top, then the CCIW triplets (in whatever order), followed by the NCAC trio (in whatever order), with Franklin and CUC (perhaps even Adrian) sprinkled in somewhere, but a lot of head-scratching before I submit my ballot (which has usually been in by now).

I didn't jinx them, they just played like $&*# today. And who would have thought Wabash would lose?

Oberlin's coaches and players sure did.  They played and executed a great game.  All the credit in the world goes to Oberlin for that win on Saturday. 

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

I've finally put together my ballot... was it too much to ask for 2 straight calm weeks? Only Mount Union stayed the same and just 1 other moved only 1 spot, plus two new teams also made my ballot.
I wonder how much consensus we'll see this week.

[DPU3619]

Here it is in all it's glory - the North Region Fan Poll.  We'll do one more next week after the playoff draw and then we'll do one after the Stagg.

1. Mount Union          80 pts (1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1)
2. Heidelberg             69 pts (2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 5)
3. Elmhurst               61 pts (2, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 5, 5)
4. North Central         53 pts (3, 3, 4, 4, 4, 5, 5, 7)
5. Wheaton               48 pts (4, 4, 4, 5, 5, 5, 6, 7)
6. Wittenberg            34 pts (3, 6, 6, 7, 8, 8, 8, 8)
7. Franklin                 30 pts (4, 6, 6, 6, 8, 9, 10, 10)
8. Wabash                 25 pts (6, 6, 7, 7, 7, 8, -, -)
9. Concordia (Ill.)        23 pts (4, 7, 8, 8, 9, 9, 10, 10)
10. Ohio Wesleyan      13 pts (7, 9, 9, 9, 10, 10, 10, -)


ARV:
Baldwin-Wallace            2 pts (9, -, -, -, -, -, -, -)
Otterbein                     2 pts (9, -, -, -, -, -, -, -)
Adrian                          1 pt (10, -, -, -, -, -, -, -)

The North Region Fan Poll is voted on by Wes Anderson, wally_wabash, smedindy, ADL70, Mr. Ypsi, FCGrizzlesGrad, newcardfan, and short.

EDIT: I made a mistake in regards to Concordia & OWU.  I have now fixed that.

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

It seems like there's a lot of agreement this week... and then there's my ballot with outliers left and right.
1 Mount, 2 Elmhurst, 3 Witt, 4 Concordia, 5 Heidelberg, 6 Wheaton, 7 N Central, 8 Franklin, 9 Otterbein, 10 Adrian

[Dr. Acula]

The end results look good to me so maybe your "outlier" ways are the straw that stirs the drink!

[GRIZ_BACKER]

It seems like there's a lot of agreement this week... and then there's my ballot with outliers left and right.
1 Mount, 2 Elmhurst, 3 Witt, 4 Concordia, 5 Heidelberg, 6 Wheaton, 7 N Central, 8 Franklin, 9 Otterbein, 10 Adrian

is sandbag one word or should it be hypenated FC Grad?

[smedindy]

One word.

[GRIZ_BACKER]

One word.

[DPU3619]

I guess the question I'd ask, GrizzliesGrad, is why you did what you did with Heidelberg.  They are a one loss team in a good conference with the only loss being to Mount. Heidi played them better than anybody else has all year.

Witt feels high, but I guess I can understand that.  That's a big drop for NCC, who did beat Elmhurst soundly.  I'm still higher than you on Franklin.  They've done everything that could be reasonably be asked of them.  They weren't going to beat Mount and they weren't going to beat Butler.  The schedule is the schedule, but they've done what a lot of other teams in this poll couldn't.  They beat who they were supposed to beat. 

[smedindy]

Heidelberg, in my eyes, has only had one hiccup this year when they faced Muskingum in the ultimate trap (after Otterbein and before Mt. Union) and ONLY won 28-14. Otherwise, they've performed like a team that is only behind Mt. Union in the region.

The NCAC and CCIW messes may obscure how good some of those teams really are.

[Dr. Acula]

Heidelberg, in my eyes, has only had one hiccup this year when they faced Muskingum in the ultimate trap (after Otterbein and before Mt. Union) and ONLY won 28-14. Otherwise, they've performed like a team that is only behind Mt. Union in the region.

The NCAC and CCIW messes may obscure how good some of those teams really are.

I don't think that Musky win is quite as bad as it looks for the reason you mentioned and also because I think Musky's better than their record.  If you dig into Musky's schedule they're obviously 2-7 which stinks, but they also played BW, Otterbein, ONU and Waynesburg tough.  Lost to BW in OT.  Lost by 1 to ONU on a last second TD.  They're definitely not good, but they're good enough to hang with some pretty good teams.  Now if Berg had only beaten Wilm 28-14 I'd be concerned. 

[GRIZ_BACKER]

Heidelberg, in my eyes, has only had one hiccup this year when they faced Muskingum in the ultimate trap (after Otterbein and before Mt. Union) and ONLY won 28-14. Otherwise, they've performed like a team that is only behind Mt. Union in the region.

The NCAC and CCIW messes may obscure how good some of those teams really are.

I agree.  If seeding is done based on body of work Heidelberg is a 2 or a 3 at worst. IMO. SOS is partially a math exercise that feeds on itself. Mount is Mount and Berg played them tougher than anyone else (FC saw what Mount was all about).  They also beat every team (so far) they should beat.  BW may throw a curve this SAT though.