FB: Region 4 fan poll

[Mr. Ypsi]

My ballot wrote itself thru the top 6 - after that it got really hard.

[wally_wabash]

Sneak preview of the bottom half of my ballot:
\_(ツ)_/¯

[wally_wabash]

And here is your North Region Fan Poll through Week 8:


1- Mount Union (7-0)        80 points (1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1)
2- Wheaton (7-0)            69 points (2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3)
3- Wabash (7-0)             67 points (2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3)
4- Illinois Wesleyan (7-0)  56 points (4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4)
5- Olivet (7-0)             45 points (5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 6, 6, 6)
6- Franklin (6-2)           37 points (5, 6, 6, 6, 7, 7, 7, 7)
7- North Central (4-3)      29 points (5, 5, 6, 6, 7, 9, 10, x)
8- Wittenberg (5-2)         13 points (8, 8, 9, 9, 9, 10, x, x)
9- DePauw (6-1)             12 points (8, 8, 9, 9, 9, x, x, x)
10- Rose Hulman (6-1)       10 points (7, 8, 10, 10, 10, x, x, x)

ORV:
Ohio Northern (5-2)          9 points (7, 8, 9, x, x, x, x, x)
John Carroll (6-1)           8 points (7, 8, 10, x, x, x, x, x)
Albion (6-1)                 4 points (8, 10, x, x, x, x, x, x)
Baldwin-Wallace (5-2)        1 point  (10, x, x, x, x, x, x, x)



The NRFP is voted on by: Captain_Joe08, Dr. Acula, FCGrizzliesGrad, Li'l Giant, Mr Ypsi, NCF, USee, and wally wabash.

[USee]

Looks like a pretty common solution to the bottom half of the poll mess was to 1-insert Franklin and 2-avoid the OAC.

[Li'l Giant]

I am not the voter who had North Central unranked this time. I had them at 10.

[Dr. Acula]

Looks like a pretty common solution to the bottom half of the poll mess was to 1-insert Franklin and 2-avoid the OAC.

I had ONU and JCU both in my top 10 now.  I earned my OAC representative salary this week.

[USee]

My poll

1. UMU
2. Wabash
3. Wheaton
4. IWU
5. Olivet
6. North Central
7. Franklin
8. Wittenberg
9. Ohio Northern
10. Rose Hulman

I almost switched Wheaton and Wabash but Wheaton is missing some guys on offense that kept me from that just yet.  Franklin has one real loss to IWU who is moving up and Rose hung tough w Franklin.  Olivet feels high but we will sort that out soon enough.  For the OAC I assumed all three teams will lose to Mt Union so no one got credit for not having played them yet. In that case ONU had the best resume of the three IMO.  I can't justify Depauw with the atrocious loss to OWU.

[USee]

I would be interested to know from the 2 voters who voted for Albion, where did you have North Central? Also, for those who had the OAC in their top ten, how did you sort out who to rank where? Am I the only one who thinks Olivet has benefitted from attrition? I am the one who blew their horn from day one but this feels aggressive.

[Li'l Giant]

I would be interested to know from the 2 voters who voted for Albion, where did you have North Central? Also, for those who had the OAC in their top ten, how did you sort out who to rank where? Am I the only one who thinks Olivet has benefitted from attrition? I am the one who blew their horn from day one but this feels aggressive.

I did not vote for Albion but I did have Ohio Northern on my ballot. I had them ahead of JCU because of the H2H result coupled with the the belief that even though JCU has only 1 loss, it's only because they haven't lost to UMU yet. However, if my ballot went to 11 I would have put JCU there.

[Dr. Acula]

I had ONU at 7 and JCU at 10 (barely).  It was based on H2H plus the fact that I think Utica is still a better win than any of JCU's wins to date. 

And I agree about Olivet, USee.  They've moved up my ballot based partly on just not losing.

[wally_wabash]

I had ONU at 7 and JCU at 10 (barely).  It was based on H2H plus the fact that I think Utica is still a better win than any of JCU's wins to date. 

And I agree about Olivet, USee.  They've moved up my ballot based partly on just not losing.

That's not a bad thing.  Anybody who manages to just not lose 15 times wins a championship.  Olivet is halfway there.   

[Mr. Ypsi]

I had ONU at 7 and JCU at 10 (barely).  It was based on H2H plus the fact that I think Utica is still a better win than any of JCU's wins to date. 

And I agree about Olivet, USee.  They've moved up my ballot based partly on just not losing.

That's not a bad thing.  Anybody who manages to just not lose 15 times wins a championship.  Olivet is halfway there.   

Reminds me of the woman the Seattle Mariners honored on her 108th birthday by making her the oldest person to ever throw out the first pitch.  Asked the inevitable "To what to attribute your longevity?", she didn't give any of that palaver about eating right or exercising or whatever.  She said "It's simple; don't stop having birthdays."  Gotta love a woman like that!

[wally_wabash]

North Region Fan Poll through Week 9:


1- Mount Union (8-0)        80 points (1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1)
2- Wheaton (8-0)            70 points (2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3)
3- Wabash (8-0)             66 points (2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3)
4- North Central (5-3)      52 points (4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 5, 5, 6)
5- Franklin (6-2)           45 points (4, 4, 4, 6, 6, 6, 6, 7)
6- Illinois Wesleyan (7-1)  38 points (5, 5, 5, 5, 6, 7, 7, 10)
7- Wittenberg (6-2)         24 points (6, 7, 8, 8, 8, 9, 9, 9)
8- Albion (7-1)             22 points (5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 10, x)
9- DePauw (7-1)             17 points (7, 7, 8, 8, 8, x, x, x)
10- Rose Hulman (7-1)       11 points (5, 9, 10, 10, 10, x, x, x)

ORV:
Ohio Northern (6-2)          8 points (7, 8, 10, x, x, x, x, x)
John Carroll (7-1)           4 points (9, 9, x, x, x, x, x, x)
Olivet (7-1)                 3 points (9, 10, x, x, x, x, x, x)



The NRFP is voted on by: Captain_Joe08, Dr. Acula, FCGrizzliesGrad, Li'l Giant, Mr Ypsi, NCF, USee, and wally wabash.

[ExTartanPlayer]

IWU all the way down at #10 on one ballot seems harsh.  Especially since the lowest ranking for Franklin is #7, that means someone is ranking the Titans several spots behind a team that they beat by 10 on the road...and it's not like much has happened since then to suggest that was a fluke.  Don't even get me started on the absurdity of Rose-Hulman, who is 7-1 (the same record as IWU) with an unfavorable common opponent, somehow ranked ahead of IWU on that ballot.  Or DePauw, proud carriers of a loss to Ohio Freaking Wesleyan, and Wittenberg, also both (probably) ranked ahead of IWU on that ballot.

Actually, wait a minute, now that I look closer I'm even more puzzled; it looks like Franklin is ahead of IWU on almost every ballot, if not every ballot.  Guys!  IWU beat Franklin to open the season, by 10 points, at Franklin!  Since then, Franklin has done its usual job running over most of the HCAC, but IWU has held the fort just fine in the CCIW.  What's changed the tune on IWU > Franklin?  It's not like IWU is carrying a bad loss; while North Central doesn't deserve any special Pool C sympathy, they're deservedly ranked between 4 and 6 on every ballot here.  Unless IWU beats Wheaton this week (favoring IWU) or IWU goes on to lose to somebody worse, don't you pretty much have to stick to Wheaton > North Central > IWU > Franklin when rating those teams vs. one another?

[Mr. Ypsi]

Aw, XTartan, you're so cute when you're logical!

I assure you that Franklin was not ahead of IWU on EVERY ballot! I had IWU 5th, Albion 6th, and Franklin 7th.  (RHIT, 1-TD victors over mighty Manchester, was NOT on my ballot - yeah, that #5 vote stuck out like a sore thumb on this week's tally. )