FB: Region 4 fan poll

[izzy stradlin]

Week one was a long time ago, but still disappointed to see Franklin above IWU.   Dontcha think the Titans could have squashed that lineup of tomato cans as solidly as Franklin did?  Personally I did move Albion above IWU, but they do have only one loss (to a decent Trine team), while IWU has two losses (though to MUCH tougher teams).  I suspect that Albion vs. IWU would be a helluva game, and although I suspect IWU would win, I'm gonna respect 8-1 vs. 7-2.

And what the heck is with the #7 vote for RHIT??!!  Good grief, they are not even on my top 15 list for the North any more.

Franklin and IWU aren't even that close in this poll.  It must be because of the only comparative data we have from when Franklin won at IWU to start the season.  Their schedules aren't comparable even though their records are similar and IWU lost to two teams that aren't very good. 

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

Week one was a long time ago, but still disappointed to see Franklin above IWU.   Dontcha think the Titans could have squashed that lineup of tomato cans as solidly as Franklin did?  Personally I did move Albion above IWU, but they do have only one loss (to a decent Trine team), while IWU has two losses (though to MUCH tougher teams).  I suspect that Albion vs. IWU would be a helluva game, and although I suspect IWU would win, I'm gonna respect 8-1 vs. 7-2.

And what the heck is with the #7 vote for RHIT??!!  Good grief, they are not even on my top 15 list for the North any more.

While I agree that 7 is too high for Rose... I'd still have them at 13.


My order was Mount, Wabash, Wheaton, North Central, Illinois Wesleyan, Franklin, Albion, Olivet, Wittenberg, John Carroll... but after 4th it's tough

[Captain_Joe08]

Unfortunately, Franklin can't help they play in a league which isn't the strongest league out there for football. The Grizzlies have benefitted from having their losses early on and sadly IWU picked up two losses in the last two weeks (albeit against strong competition). I want to see where they end up in the next batch of regional rankings with these two losses to Wheaton and North Central.

[wally_wabash]

Week one was a long time ago, but still disappointed to see Franklin above IWU.   Dontcha think the Titans could have squashed that lineup of tomato cans as solidly as Franklin did?   Personally I did move Albion above IWU, but they do have only one loss (to a decent Trine team), while IWU has two losses (though to MUCH tougher teams).  I suspect that Albion vs. IWU would be a helluva game, and although I suspect IWU would win, I'm gonna respect 8-1 vs. 7-2.

And what the heck is with the #7 vote for RHIT??!!  Good grief, they are not even on my top 15 list for the North any more.

Yes, but that's not the sum total of the exercise.  I left IWU behind Franklin this week.  Just not the same club without the guy that might have been the CCIW's best offensive player in 2015. 

[USee]

I also left IWU behind Franklin.  Checchin is gone and that's a big deal. But Franklin is 7-1 by D3 standards and IWU is 7-2.  Teams also morph and Franklin is playing well right now.  Those things caused me to rank Franklin slightly higher despite the head to head that happened 8 weeks ago.

I don't understand how anyone has John Carroll ahead of ONU?

[wally_wabash]

I don't understand how anyone has John Carroll ahead of ONU?

It's a mystery.  JCU has slithered back up into the top 15 nationally while ONU is receiving just a smattering of votes.

[Desertraider]

I don't understand how anyone has John Carroll ahead of ONU?

It's a mystery.  JCU has slithered back up into the top 15 nationally while ONU is receiving just a smattering of votes.

I know ONU beat JCU - but that 2nd loss for ONU hurts them in the voting. It has to - only explanation I have. When JCU gets their 2nd loss (which had better be this weekend) I think the poll position will sort itself out. Not that it matters - neither is getting into the playoffs with 2 losses.

[wally_wabash]

I don't understand how anyone has John Carroll ahead of ONU?

It's a mystery.  JCU has slithered back up into the top 15 nationally while ONU is receiving just a smattering of votes.

I know ONU beat JCU - but that 2nd loss for ONU hurts them in the voting. It has to - only explanation I have. When JCU gets their 2nd loss (which had better be this weekend) I think the poll position will sort itself out. Not that it matters - neither is getting into the playoffs with 2 losses.

I'm not sure it will, actually.  John Carroll hasn't played like a top 25 team from jump street this year and yet here we are in Week 11 and they're #15.  It's 100% a result of their having been ranked in the top 10 to start with (which was erroneous) and enough voters won't let go of "John Carroll, 2014 Quarterfinalist" to adjust properly.  JCU will lose, probably by a bunch, but I doubt it costs them a top 25 position.  The poll is pretty lenient on teams that get squashed by Mount Union. 

[wally_wabash]

Hey gang, just in case there is confusion we'll do a poll this week and then one final poll once the dust settles in the tournament.   

[wally_wabash]

North Region Fan Poll through Week 11:


1- Mount Union (10-0)       80 points (1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1)
2- Wheaton (10-0)           70 points (2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3)
3- Wabash (10-0)            66 points (2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3)
4- North Central (7-3)      53 points (4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 5, 6)
5- Franklin (8-2)           47 points (4, 4, 5, 5, 5, 6, 6, 6)
6- Albion (9-1)             42 points (5, 5, 5, 5, 6, 6, 7, 7)
7- Ohio Northern (8-2)      29 points (6, 6, 7, 7, 7, 7, 9, 10)
8- Wittenberg (8-2)         17 points (7, 8, 8, 8, 9, 10, 10, x)
9- John Carroll (8-2)       14 points (8, 8, 8, 8, 9, x, x, x)
10- Olivet (9-1)            12 points (7, 8, 9, 10, 10, 10, x, x)

ORV:
DePauw (8-2)                 7 points (9, 9, 9, 10, x, x, x, x)
Lakeland (8-2)               3 points (9, 10, x, x, x, x, x, x)



The NRFP is voted on by: Captain_Joe08, Dr. Acula, FCGrizzliesGrad, Li'l Giant, Mr Ypsi, NCF, USee, and wally wabash.

[Captain_Joe08]

North Park took care of one of the main sticking points of last week  (left IWU on the sent ballot before finding out the result of the game). Top 5 were the easiest to pick (again). Still spots 6-10 were tough.

[Li'l Giant]

I sent in my final ballot. Thanks to Wally for herding the cats this season.

[wally_wabash]

Final 2015 North Region Fan Poll:


1- Mount Union (15-0)       80 points (1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1)
2- Wabash (12-1)            69 points (2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3)
3- Wheaton (11-1)           67 points (2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3)
4- Ohio Northern (9-3)      47 points (4, 4, 4, 4, 5, 5, 7, 8)
5- Albion (9-2)             41 points (5, 5, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 7)
6- Franklin (8-3)           39 points (5, 5, 5, 6, 7, 7, 7, 7)
7- North Central (7-3)      38 points (4, 4, 4, 4, 6, 6, x, x)
8- John Carroll (8-2)       24 points (5, 7, 8, 8, 8, 8, 9, x)
9- Olivet (9-1)             13 points (7, 8, 9, 10, 10, 10, 10, x)
10- Wittenberg (8-2)         9 points (9, 9, 9, 9, 10, x, x, x)
10- DePauw (8-2)             9 points (8, 8, 9, 10, x, x, x, x)

ORV:
Lakeland (8-3)               4 points (9, 10, 10, x, x, x, x, x)



The NRFP is voted on by: Captain_Joe08, Dr. Acula, FCGrizzliesGrad, Li'l Giant, Mr Ypsi, NCF, USee, and wally wabash.

[New Tradition]

Final 2015 North Region Fan Poll:


1- Mount Union (15-0)       80 points (1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1)
2- Wabash (12-1)            69 points (2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3)
3- Wheaton (11-1)           67 points (2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3)
4- Ohio Northern (9-3)      47 points (4, 4, 4, 4, 5, 5, 7, 8)
5- Albion (9-2)             41 points (5, 5, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 7)
6- Franklin (8-3)           39 points (5, 5, 5, 6, 7, 7, 7, 7)
7- North Central (7-3)      38 points (4, 4, 4, 4, 6, 6, x, x)
8- John Carroll (8-2)       24 points (5, 7, 8, 8, 8, 8, 9, x)
9- Olivet (9-1)             13 points (7, 8, 9, 10, 10, 10, 10, x)
10- Wittenberg (8-2)         9 points (9, 9, 9, 9, 10, x, x, x)
10- DePauw (8-2)             9 points (8, 8, 9, 10, x, x, x, x)

ORV:
Lakeland (8-3)               4 points (9, 10, 10, x, x, x, x, x)



The NRFP is voted on by: Captain_Joe08, Dr. Acula, FCGrizzliesGrad, Li'l Giant, Mr Ypsi, NCF, USee, and wally wabash.

Interesting.  Curious why people moved Ohio Northern, Albion, and Franklin ahead of NCC vs. the Week 11 poll.  NCC didn't make the playoffs, but only one of those teams made it past the first round only to get smeared by Oshkosh in the second.  Especially curious about the rationale of those voters who had them 5th and 6th at worst after Week 11 but dropped them out of the rankings completely for the final.

[USee]

Final 2015 North Region Fan Poll:


1- Mount Union (15-0)       80 points (1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1)
2- Wabash (12-1)            69 points (2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3)
3- Wheaton (11-1)           67 points (2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3)
4- Ohio Northern (9-3)      47 points (4, 4, 4, 4, 5, 5, 7, 8)
5- Albion (9-2)             41 points (5, 5, 6, 6, 6, 6, 6, 7)
6- Franklin (8-3)           39 points (5, 5, 5, 6, 7, 7, 7, 7)
7- North Central (7-3)      38 points (4, 4, 4, 4, 6, 6, x, x)
8- John Carroll (8-2)       24 points (5, 7, 8, 8, 8, 8, 9, x)
9- Olivet (9-1)             13 points (7, 8, 9, 10, 10, 10, 10, x)
10- Wittenberg (8-2)         9 points (9, 9, 9, 9, 10, x, x, x)
10- DePauw (8-2)             9 points (8, 8, 9, 10, x, x, x, x)

ORV:
Lakeland (8-3)               4 points (9, 10, 10, x, x, x, x, x)



The NRFP is voted on by: Captain_Joe08, Dr. Acula, FCGrizzliesGrad, Li'l Giant, Mr Ypsi, NCF, USee, and wally wabash.

Interesting.  Curious why people moved Ohio Northern, Albion, and Franklin ahead of NCC vs. the Week 11 poll.  NCC didn't make the playoffs, but only one of those teams made it past the first round only to get smeared by Oshkosh in the second.  Especially curious about the rationale of those voters who had them 5th and 6th at worst after Week 11 but dropped them out of the rankings completely for the final.

NT,

Lakeland was pretty impressive!