FB: Region 4 fan poll

[izzy stradlin]

The new poll is out - they have the "CCIW Jumble" as 10. NCC  12. IWU  23. Wheaton  (24 points) Millikin, (zero points) Carthage.  I have the same order on my ballot, but disagree with Carthage receiving zero votes: I actually raised them one slot on my NRFP ballot for the 10-13 loss AT IWU.  Their defense is MUCH tougher than I had realized!  Only TWO teams have held the Titans to 13 points this season: NCC and Carthage.

The IWU offense is averaging 19 ppg in the CCIW so far this year so holding them to 13 was amazing.     

They really only allowed 1 TD though as one score came via a punt block.

[Mr. Ypsi]

The new poll is out - they have the "CCIW Jumble" as 10. NCC  12. IWU  23. Wheaton  (24 points) Millikin, (zero points) Carthage.  I have the same order on my ballot, but disagree with Carthage receiving zero votes: I actually raised them one slot on my NRFP ballot for the 10-13 loss AT IWU.  Their defense is MUCH tougher than I had realized!  Only TWO teams have held the Titans to 13 points this season: NCC and Carthage.

The IWU offense is averaging 19 ppg in the CCIW so far this year so holding them to 13 was amazing.     

Hardly amazing (we ARE somewhat offensively impaired this season), but it WAS better than Wheaton, UWW, or anyone else could do.  We are living off what I contend is a top 5 in the nation defense, regardless of what the stats say.

Saw your addition just before hitting 'post'.  Yes, the IWU defense/special teams are running close to neck-and-neck with the offense!  So another plaudit for the Carthage DEFENSE.

[USee]

Never mind they actually only scored one TD against Carthage as their other score was special teams. And there was another CCIW game the Titans scored only 14, 7 of which was in the last 6 seconds.

Yea, IWU's offense is not what's making a name for the Titans this season.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Never mind they actually only scored one TD against Carthage as their other score was special teams. And there was another CCIW game the Titans scored only 14, 7 of which was in the last 6 seconds.

Yea, IWU's offense is not what's making a name for the Titans this season.

Fortunately that 7-points in the last six seconds (which only occurred because someone from Wheaton called a time-out before IWU DIDN'T score) led to a 14-10 win!

Titans D just might deserve a Stagg spot; Titans O not so much.

Unless they lay an egg against Elmhurst or Millikin, the Titans should make the playoffs.  They won't go far unless the O can come anywhere close to matching the D.

[USee]

Ypsi the timeout had no impact on the outcome. The whistle blew when the Wheaton coaches called timeout and the Titan Oline stopped and that's why Bauer was sacked.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Ypsi the timeout had no impact on the outcome. The whistle blew when the Wheaton coaches called timeout and the Titan Oline stopped and that's why Bauer was sacked.

OK, but do you have any evidence that the winning play was the play they called before the time-out?!

[Pat Coleman]

Points in the last six seconds still count, certainly in a one-score game, so attempting to discount them because they were in the last six seconds is pretty specious at best. It wasn't garbage time!

[USee]

Ypsi the timeout had no impact on the outcome. The whistle blew when the Wheaton coaches called timeout and the Titan Oline stopped and that's why Bauer was sacked.

OK, but do you have any evidence that the winning play was the play they called before the time-out?!

Other than the fact it was a completely different formation, no.

Pat you obviously completely missed the point.

[Pat Coleman]

Pat you obviously completely missed the point.

I expect that's your default assumption for me these days but I'm not sure what the point was, then.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Ypsi the timeout had no impact on the outcome. The whistle blew when the Wheaton coaches called timeout and the Titan Oline stopped and that's why Bauer was sacked.

OK, but do you have any evidence that the winning play was the play they called before the time-out?!

Other than the fact it was a completely different formation, no.

Pat you obviously completely missed the point.

I have no clue what 'point' Pat missed.  For that matter I have no clue what point you are trying to make.

Wheaton called a time-out on what I thought was a blown IWU play - PERHAPS as you say, only because they quit when the refs blew a whistle (NOT what I saw, but whatever; the announcers also thought IWU had lost).

On the do-over, IWU scored the game-winning TD.

So, your point was  ... what?

[USee]

Ypsi the timeout had no impact on the outcome. The whistle blew when the Wheaton coaches called timeout and the Titan Oline stopped and that's why Bauer was sacked.

OK, but do you have any evidence that the winning play was the play they called before the time-out?!

Other than the fact it was a completely different formation, no.

Pat you obviously completely missed the point.

I have no clue what 'point' Pat missed.  For that matter I have no clue what point you are trying to make.

Wheaton called a time-out on what I thought was a blown IWU play - PERHAPS as you say, only because they quit when the refs blew a whistle (NOT what I saw, but whatever; the announcers also thought IWU had lost).

On the do-over, IWU scored the game-winning TD.

So, your point was  ... what?

It doesn't matter what you saw or what you or I think, Coach Swider is on record that the "Timeout sack" was a non play and had no relevance in the outcome. So one of my points was to refute your continued use of that play as some kind of mistake by Wheaton, it wasn't.

My bigger point was to refute your arbitrary claim that NCC and Carthage were the only teams to hold IWU's offense to 13 points. I simply pointed out that another team held them to 14 pts and Carthage actually held them to 7. You were somehow surprised about Carthage's defense when there is ample evidence they are one of the top defenses in the country and I would have been surprised if IWU scored more than 2 TD's Saturday. IWU's defense is the reason they are 9-1. My concern for Carthage going into the game Saturday was their ability to score. It didn't help that Carthage lost the best WR in the conference in the first quarter Saturday (Cobbs was on crutches on the sideline the rest of the game).

And if IWU gets beat by Elmhurst, they laid an egg, if they lose to Millikin, it's because the Big Blue are better and it would be no fluke. I don't expect either to happen but Millkin is good enough to beat IWU.

[smedindy]

 

[Ryan Stoppable]

With Trine eviscerating Hope, your chances of even sneaking on to the bottom of ballots may be gone.  Though you might try lobbying smeds - he is desperate for a #10 team!

I almost put "THIS SPACE FOR RENT" at team #10

Then the path ahead is simple, smedindy. Search your feelings. You know it to be true.

[Mr. Ypsi]

wally, any chance of a poll tonite, or still waiting on ballots?

[wally_wabash]

wally, any chance of a poll tonite, or still waiting on ballots?

One out that I think probably won't come until tomorrow.  I'll put it out tomorrow evening either way.  Unless I get the last ballot tonight, in which case I'll get it out tonight.