FB: Region 4 fan poll

[Captain_Joe08]

Hey! Why are you picking on us? NPU isn't going to be the last-place team in the CCIW this year. And the Vikings didn't finish last in 2017, either.

For that matter, neither did Anderson in the HCAC. In fact, Anderson's got two HCAC wins this season.

Anderson and Defiance hopes Earlham never folds their programs

Franklin doesn't either... a third non-conference game for everyone? Franklin's SoS may never see .400 again with the conference going around 3-21 every year

How about an impromptu HCAC-NACC Challenge series next year since Earlham has suspended their program? Might be pretty competitive! 

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

Hey! Why are you picking on us? NPU isn't going to be the last-place team in the CCIW this year. And the Vikings didn't finish last in 2017, either.

For that matter, neither did Anderson in the HCAC. In fact, Anderson's got two HCAC wins this season.

Anderson and Defiance hopes Earlham never folds their programs

Franklin doesn't either... a third non-conference game for everyone? Franklin's SoS may never see .400 again with the conference going around 3-21 every year

How about an impromptu HCAC-NACC Challenge series next year since Earlham has suspended their program? Might be pretty competitive! 

That would be something... teams facing each other and both still find a way to lose?

[footballlover]

https://cciw.org/sports/2018/11/13/FB_1113180014.aspx

[smedindy]

Are we having a new poll?

[wally_wabash]

Yes!  Coming this afternoon evening.  I promise.   

[wally_wabash]

2018 Week 11 NRFP:


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And stay tuned- we'll do one more of these at the conclusion of the tournament!

The NRFP is voted on by: Captain_Joe08, CollegeGolf18, Dr. Acula, FCGrizzliesGrad, HOPEful, Li'l Giant, Mr Ypsi, NCF,  smedindy, thunderdog, USee, and wally wabash.

[HScoach]

Interesting that Denison is ahead of BW.  Will get a good measure of them this Saturday regardless of who plays QB for Mount.  The key in my mind is how Denison handles Mount's speed on defense.   BW had a good day offensively against Mount, they just couldn't stop them.

[USee]

Column #4 for me.

I don't understand IWU behind Wheaton. Also nice to see a few more have come over to the dark side on NCC at #2. 

[Mr. Ypsi]

Column #4 for me.

I don't understand IWU behind Wheaton. Also nice to see a few more have come over to the dark side on NCC at #2. 

Even as a Titan fan, I've got no real problem with Wheaton ahead of IWU, despite the h2h (they beat NCC, we didn't).  But IWU 6th, 7th, or 8th??!  That's just bizarro-land!

I'm column 2 this week.

[HOPEful]

I don't understand IWU behind Wheaton.

I'm row 9, and I think Wheaton's resume is just slightly better with 2 close loses on the road to very good opponents and the best win in the region. The 52-30 win at North Central vs. a 20-38 loss at home was the difference for me. That game trumps a very close head-to-head game in Bloomington that could have easily gone the other way had the game been played in Wheaton.

[HOPEful]

I do think it's very interesting that we unanimously agree on the top 3 teams. And yet, don't agree on the value of Wheaton's win at North Central. 

[wally_wabash]

I'm column 10.  After two weeks of having my ballot remain static, I did move North Central up to 2.  Close calls with Marietta and BW have significantly diluted the earlier near miss with Mount Union. 

I do find it interesting how in just a few weeks we've gone from having 16 teams named on ballots all the way down to just 11.  We're not far from a consensus top 10 which is remarkable. 

Interesting that Denison is ahead of BW.  Will get a good measure of them this Saturday regardless of who plays QB for Mount.  The key in my mind is how Denison handles Mount's speed on defense.   BW had a good day offensively against Mount, they just couldn't stop them.

It's going to be a significant shock to the system.  Nobody in the NCAC is playing the game even remotely close to Mount Union's level, and beyond that Denison hasn't played even a good NCAC team in five weeks.  Denison hasn't gotten sloppy- they've stayed sharp through the less challenging back half of their schedule, but OWU/Hiram/Wooster/Kenyon is not the best way to ramp up for a game against #1. 

[HScoach]

I don't understand IWU behind Wheaton.

I'm row 9, and I think Wheaton's resume is just slightly better with 2 close loses on the road to very good opponents and the best win in the region. The 52-30 win at North Central vs. a 20-38 loss at home was the difference for me. That game trumps a very close head-to-head game in Bloomington that could have easily gone the other way had the game been played in Wheaton.

I agree.  Count me as someone who uses head-to-head results to differentiate equal resumes, but in my mind it isn't the end all be all.  Upsets happen.  The better team doesn't always win. 

[smedindy]

Column #4 for me.

I don't understand IWU behind Wheaton. Also nice to see a few more have come over to the dark side on NCC at #2. 

Even as a Titan fan, I've got no real problem with Wheaton ahead of IWU, despite the h2h (they beat NCC, we didn't).  But IWU 6th, 7th, or 8th??!  That's just bizarro-land!

I'm column 2 this week.

Not for me. I can't split the NCAC trio.

[HScoach]

Interesting that Denison is ahead of BW.  Will get a good measure of them this Saturday regardless of who plays QB for Mount.  The key in my mind is how Denison handles Mount's speed on defense.   BW had a good day offensively against Mount, they just couldn't stop them.

Whelp, the answer is in.  BW is much better than Denison.