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Kira & Jaxon's Dad

Quote from: HOPEful on October 04, 2023, 10:35:37 AM
Quote from: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on October 04, 2023, 08:09:51 AM
If you are Column 4 then I am Column 1...

Marietta plays John Carroll and Mount Union plays Heidelberg this week, so that should (hopefully) clear some of the OAC stuff up.

As an OAC guy, you think Heidelberg is better/more deserving of being ranked than Marietta?

Based on History, YES.  This weekends results may force me to make a change in the order.
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wally_wabash

I'm in the 8 spot.  Love it when my rankings match the poll almost exactly. 

I leaped off of the Hanover bandwagon just as quickly as I hopped on.  If Wabash can consistently play defense the way they did at Selby, they're absolutely one of the best 7 in the region.  And HOPEful 100% talked me into flipping Albion and DePauw- totally right about DePauw's schedule (softer than room temp butter) and Albion has a decidedly better result vs. the common opponent.
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HOPEful

Quote from: wally_wabash on October 04, 2023, 12:32:03 PM
And HOPEful 100% talked me into flipping Albion and DePauw- totally right about DePauw's schedule (softer than room temp butter) and Albion has a decidedly better result vs. the common opponent.
I'm hoping you flip back on that one too after Albion's game this weekend :)
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Quote from: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on October 04, 2023, 10:38:10 AM
Quote from: HOPEful on October 04, 2023, 10:35:37 AM
Quote from: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on October 04, 2023, 08:09:51 AM
If you are Column 4 then I am Column 1...

Marietta plays John Carroll and Mount Union plays Heidelberg this week, so that should (hopefully) clear some of the OAC stuff up.

As an OAC guy, you think Heidelberg is better/more deserving of being ranked than Marietta?

Based on History, YES.  This weekends results may force me to make a change in the order.
Agreed based on history, although looking objectively, I would say Marietta has been a little more impressive so far (looking at non-conference opponent strength and Marietta knocking of BW). I feel like this weekend is going to reveal a lot about the relative strength of the teams at the top of the OAC
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wally_wabash

Quote from: HOPEful on October 04, 2023, 12:41:36 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on October 04, 2023, 12:32:03 PM
And HOPEful 100% talked me into flipping Albion and DePauw- totally right about DePauw's schedule (softer than room temp butter) and Albion has a decidedly better result vs. the common opponent.
I'm hoping you flip back on that one too after Albion's game this weekend :)


This game is going to be so good.  Have to find a way to keep PJP from going bonkers on the specials, but if Hope does that, they've got a great chance. 
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Quote from: wally_wabash on October 04, 2023, 04:17:21 PM
This game is going to be so good.  Have to find a way to keep PJP from going bonkers on the specials, but if Hope does that, they've got a great chance.

Hope needs to figure out how to start better. They went down 14-0 against Loras and MSJ and down both 7-0 and 14-7 to Adrian. Even the Aurora game, take away the 3-17 start and the final is a much more competitive 21-14. They came back and won against the other three obviously, but they can't afford to spot Albion 14 points and expect to come back.
Let's go Dutchmen!

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CollegeGolf18

Quote from: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on October 04, 2023, 08:09:51 AM
I am Column 1 or 5.

My top 7 didn't change this week, but my 8-16 (not on ballot) had some shuffling.

Marietta plays John Carroll and Mount Union plays Heidelberg this week, so that should (hopefully) clear some of the OAC stuff up.

I am the same as you. My top 7 didn't change...just flipped H-Berg / Wabash because of what I saw defensively from Wabash this past weekend (and honestly against Butler too). OWU score was 31-13 but it so very easily could have been 56-0 if the backups didn't play the entire 4th Q and had Liam attempted more than 5 passes in the 2H (after leading 31-0 at half).
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Kira & Jaxon's Dad

Marietta jumps Heidelberg in my rankings.
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1 Mount Union wins at ORV Heidelberg 41-3
2 John Carroll wins at ORV Marietta 31-28
3 Alma Off
4 DePauw beats Denison 17-3
6 Hope beats 5 Albion 14-6
7 Wabash beats Wooster 45-35
ORV Wittenberg beats Hiram 21-7
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Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on October 07, 2023, 04:26:19 PM
1 Mount Union wins at ORV Heidelberg 27-3
2 John Carroll wins at ORV Marietta 31-28
3 Alma Off
4 DePauw beats Denison 17-3
6 Hope beats 5 Albion 14-6
7 Wabash leads Wooster 38-28 in the 4th
ORV Wittenberg beats Hiram 21-7

Mount won 41-3 (D3Football.com score is incorrect)
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smedindy

I had to roll a d8 to get my team #7.
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HOPEful

Quote from: smedindy on October 09, 2023, 01:06:39 AM
I had to roll a d8 to get my team #7.
I had the opposite... I actually thought the teams that lost "proved" they belonged.

For example, hard to bump Albion out of the rankings for losing a close one @ Hope. Hope now has beaten MSJ and Albion, btw. And Marietta's 28-31 loss to John Carroll may just be the single most impressive performance of any Region 4 team this season outside of Mount and JCU.

Personally, I had a much harder time figuring out how to order 2 through 7. How much do you punish a team for losing a game where both teams lived up to their billing? How much do you reward a team for being undefeated even if they haven't really impressed a ton in those games? (I'm not sure I'm going to be willing to give the same love as everyone else to DePauw until after the Wittenberg game)
Let's go Dutchmen!

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Kira & Jaxon's Dad

Quote from: HOPEful on October 09, 2023, 10:22:01 AM
Quote from: smedindy on October 09, 2023, 01:06:39 AM
I had to roll a d8 to get my team #7.
I had the opposite... I actually thought the teams that lost "proved" they belonged.

For example, hard to bump Albion out of the rankings for losing a close one @ Hope. Hope now has beaten MSJ and Albion, btw. And Marietta's 28-31 loss to John Carroll may just be the single most impressive performance of any Region 4 team this season outside of Mount and JCU.

Personally, I had a much harder time figuring out how to order 2 through 7. How much do you punish a team for losing a game where both teams lived up to their billing? How much do you reward a team for being undefeated even if they haven't really impressed a ton in those games? (I'm not sure I'm going to be willing to give the same love as everyone else to DePauw until after the Wittenberg game)

I've still got DePauw at #4.  My top four stayed the same.  Five-Seven have one new team and some reshuffling.
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HOPEful

I started a post explaining my rationale this week... but I'll wait till the rankings come out before defending myself lol
Let's go Dutchmen!

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CollegeGolf18

I feel like we are some of the most mellow poll groups. In other spots they bicker back and forth all week  ;D
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