FB: Region 4 fan poll

[HOPEful]

I feel like we are some of the most mellow poll groups. In other spots they bicker back and forth all week 

Byproduct of a couple decades of being dominated by a single school and knowing that unless you win your conference, your school wont be playing in the post season.  The debate over who is better, DePauw or Hope is fun, but ultimately moot.

[CollegeGolf18]

Just submitted my poll...with two new teams...AND dropped a team that won.

1-3 are pretty solid IMO but 4-7 (4-10 for that matter)...are a true cluster.

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

Week 6

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Voters: CollegeGolf18, Dr. Acula, FCGG, HOPEful, Kira & Jaxon's Dad, Li'l Giant, smedindy, and wally_wabash

[HOPEful]

I'm column 1.

I hinted towards it earlier this week, but I put Hope ahead of DePauw. With wins against MSJ and Albion, I just think their resume is much better than DePauw's and makes up for the loss @ now #16 Aurora.

I put Marietta at 6 because that game against JCU proved to me that they're legit.
And I finished with Albion at 7 because I didn't think they should be punished too harshly for a very close game on the road to another ranked team.

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

I'm voter 3 this week.

I've got Marietta 8th in my rankings.  Didn't want to drop Albion too much for losing a close game to Hope. I'm still favoring Wabash with their only loss to Butler (FCS).  If one  Hope, Albion or Wabash begin to falter and Marietta gets back to winning, I will probably move the Pioneers up in the future.

[HOPEful]

For what they're worth...
 
Massey's rankings...
1. Mount Union (2)
2. John Carroll (12)
3. Marietta (38)
4. Alma (40)
5. DePauw (42)
6. Hope (43)
7. Heidelberg (45)
8. Albion (47)

Versus Sports Simulator Rankings...
1. Mount Union (5)
2, John Carroll (11)
3. Hope (20)
4. Alma (25)
5. DePauw (34)
6. Albion (43)
7. Marietta (49)
8. Wabash (51)
9. Mount St Joseph (52)

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

For what they're worth...

Massey's rankings...
1. Mount Union (2)
2. John Carroll (12)
3. Marietta (38)
4. Alma (40)
5. DePauw (42)
6. Hope (43)
7. Heidelberg (45)
8. Albion (47)

Versus Sports Simulator Rankings...
1. Mount Union (5)
2, John Carroll (11)
3. Hope (20)
4. Alma (25)
5. DePauw (34)
6. Albion (43)
7. Marietta (49)
8. Wabash (51)
9. Mount St Joseph (52)

Hansen Ratings
1) Mount Union (2)
2) John Carroll (11)
3) Alma (21)
4) Marietta (35)
5) DePauw (37)
6) Mount St Joseph (40)
7) Albion (45)
8) Hope (46)
9) Heidelberg (56)

[smedindy]

I gave MSJ a vote again.

[Flying Dutch Fan]

For what they're worth...

Massey's rankings...
1. Mount Union (2)
2. John Carroll (12)
3. Marietta (38)
4. Alma (40)
5. DePauw (42)
6. Hope (43)
7. Heidelberg (45)
8. Albion (47)

Versus Sports Simulator Rankings...
1. Mount Union (5)
2, John Carroll (11)
3. Hope (20)
4. Alma (25)
5. DePauw (34)
6. Albion (43)
7. Marietta (49)
8. Wabash (51)
9. Mount St Joseph (52)

Hansen Ratings
1) Mount Union (2)
2) John Carroll (11)
3) Alma (21)
4) Marietta (35)
5) DePauw (37)
6) Mount St Joseph (40)
7) Albion (45)
8) Hope (46)
9) Heidelberg (56)

Looking at the teams, it seems there are some that are ranked pretty evenly across the systems, while others have some significant variation - kind of like you voters do . 

Ranked by all 3 systems
Mount Union   2-5   (3)
John Carroll   11-12   (1)
Marietta   35-49   (14)
Alma   21-40   (19)
DePauw   34-42   (8)
Hope   20-46   (26)
Albion   43-47   (4)

Ranked by 2 systems
Heidelberg   45-56   (11)
Mount St Joseph   40-52   (12)

[HOPEful]

Looking at the teams, it seems there are some that are ranked pretty evenly across the systems, while others have some significant variation - kind of like you voters do . 

Computer rankings are flawed. Although the data itself isn't biased, there was bias in determining which data to use and how to weigh it within the algorithm. Much has been said over all the bball boards about the SOS algorithm D3 uses for basketball and it's many, many flaws. D3 is particularly difficult because of the 240 teams in football with much less overlap and mutual opponents than the 129 in FBS.

But if you understand what criteria the computers are looking at, and what they deem to be most valuable, they definitely help to highlight certain teams, both positively and negatively.

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

For what they're worth...

Massey's rankings...
1. Mount Union (2)
2. John Carroll (12)
3. Marietta (38)
4. Alma (40)
5. DePauw (42)
6. Hope (43)
7. Heidelberg (45)
8. Albion (47)

Versus Sports Simulator Rankings...
1. Mount Union (5)
2, John Carroll (11)
3. Hope (20)
4. Alma (25)
5. DePauw (34)
6. Albion (43)
7. Marietta (49)
8. Wabash (51)
9. Mount St Joseph (52)

Hansen Ratings
1) Mount Union (2)
2) John Carroll (11)
3) Alma (21)
4) Marietta (35)
5) DePauw (37)
6) Mount St Joseph (40)
7) Albion (45)
8) Hope (46)
9) Heidelberg (56)

Looking at the teams, it seems there are some that are ranked pretty evenly across the systems, while others have some significant variation - kind of like you voters do . 

Ranked by all 3 systems
Mount Union   2-5   (3)
John Carroll   11-12   (1)
Marietta   35-49   (14)
Alma   21-40   (19)
DePauw   34-42   (8)
Hope   20-46   (26)
Albion   43-47   (4)

Ranked by 2 systems
Heidelberg   45-56   (11)
Mount St Joseph   40-52   (12)

John Carroll (11.3)

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

Marietta has always been a bottom of the OAC (IMO) with brief glances of OK seasons (7-3, 6-4, 5-5).

It's hard for me to believe that they are a Region 4 Top Team yet.  If they keep winning (and win decisively) then they will move up in my rankings.

[Flying Dutch Fan]

John Carroll (11.3)

The numbers I put in parentheses is the spread between each teams low to high ranking, but yes JCU would average 11.3.

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

John Carroll (11.3)

The numbers I put in parentheses is the spread between each teams low to high ranking, but yes JCU would average 11.3.

Gotcha, thanks.

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

#1 Mount Union defeats Capital 76-0
#2 John Carroll defeats Ohio Northern 44-14
#3 Alma wins at #5 Hope 35-17
#4 DePauw wins at Wooster 53-7
#5 Hope loses to #3 Alma 17-35
#6 Marietta wins at Wilmington 45-15
#7 Wabash loses at Denison 24-28
ORV Albion was OFF
Mount St Joseph defeats Anderson 77-14
Wittenberg plays at Oberlin (currently 42-0 in the 2nd)