FB: Region 4 fan poll

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

Anyone have insight on DePauw's win against Berry and how I should be quantifying it? Admittedly, I have zero knowledge of Berry football. Should I be giving that win more value than I currently am?

Berry is a fairly solid team. After the DePauw loss they won at Randolph-Macon who went to the semifinals last year. The Region 3 Fan Poll has Berry ranked 3rd. They went 9-1 last season with their only loss by 9 to Trinity who were quite good themselves.

[#1OacFan]

Barry is a very good football team. Been in the playoffs for multiple years.

[wally_wabash]

Can confirm that 33-0 at Berry is an extremely impressive result.  That's a team with a ton of offensive firepower (over 50ppg last year).  I think they've had some inconsistent play with a new starting QB, but shutting that team out is really impressive. 

IMO, that's the best non-con win on the board in Region 4 this year. 

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

Berry lost their OC in the offseason (to Bethel I think).

[wally_wabash]

Berry list their OC in the offseason (to Bethel I think).

This is true and contributes, but still that 33-0 result shouldn't be significantly downgraded.

One of the drawbacks to having an OC at all is that they can get hired away.  Teams don't have to worry about losing an OC if they simply don't have one. 

[HOPEful]

I was the lone Hope vote at 2 and DePauw at 3. I flipped them this week. But... I reserve the right to flip back if Trinity beats the tar out of Berry next week. I'm still skeptical at how good of a win Berry is. And without that win, their resume is suspect.

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

Week 6

Rank	Team	Points	Prev	1	2	3	4	5	6	7
1	Mount Union (5-0)	49	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1
2	DePauw (5-0)	42	2	2	2	2	2	2	2	2
3	Hope (5-0)	34	3	3	4	3	3	3	3	3
4	Marietta (5-0)	28	4	4	3	5	4	4	4	4
5	John Carroll (3-2)	20	5	5	5	6	5	5	5	5
6	Alma (3-2)	14	6	6	6	4	7	7	6	6
7	Wabash (4-1)	5	T7	7	-	-	-	6	7	7
ORV	Baldwin Wallace (4-1)	3	T7	-	7	-	6	-	-	-
	Albion (4-1)	1		-	-	7	-	-	-	-

Voters: #1OacFan, FCGG, HOPEful, Kira & Jaxon's Dad, Li'l Giant, smedindy, wally_wabash

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

I'm voter 1, 6 or 7 this week.  I flip flopped Wabash and BW this week.  Tough week to move anyone with the MIAA off last Saturday.

[HOPEful]

I'm voter 1, 6 or 7 this week.  I flip flopped Wabash and BW this week.  Tough week to move anyone with the MIAA off last Saturday.

Same on being 1, 6, or 7. I moved Hope and DePauw based on a reassessment of DePauw's win over Berry. I also bumped Marietta ahead of JCU and Alma, rationale being the losses of UWW and UWRF... still think JCU and Alma might actually be better, but, for now...

[Captainred81]

I think the teams are right up there, but not sure why albion is getting a vote... Considering the result against MSJ, and MSJ losing to Muskingum.  Marietta is certainly putting up the #'s to be ranked that high.

I was totally shocked by Depauw shutting out Berry.  Not surprised they won, but a shutout?  Hope's win over Alma is definitely impressive and coupling that with their impressive D for the season, I might be pressured to rank them ahead of Mount.  Taking into account that Alma and JCU are neck and neck in this ranking, and Alma beat Mount last year and Hope wiped the floor with them this year.  Also, Mount has shown some inconsistency this year.  Any who, I think those top 3 teams are pretty good and it will all shake out in the end

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

Week 7

Rank	Team	Points	Prev	1	2	3	4	5	6	7
1	Mount Union (6-0)	49	1	1	1	1	1	1	1	1
2	DePauw (6-0)	41	2	3	2	2	2	2	2	2
3	Hope (6-0)	35	3	2	3	3	3	4	3	3
4	Marietta (6-0)	29	4	4	4	4	4	3	4	4
5	John Carroll (4-2)	21	5	5	5	5	5	5	5	5
6	Alma (4-2)	12	6	6	6	6	6	6	7	7
7	Wabash (5-1)	8	7	-	7	7	7	7	6	6
ORV	Baldwin Wallace (4-2)	1	-	7	-	-	-	-	-	-

Voters: #1OacFan, FCGG, HOPEful, Kira & Jaxon's Dad, Li'l Giant, smedindy, wally_wabash

[wally_wabash]

I'm 2/3/4 this week.  Full disclosure- my ballot hasn't changed in three weeks.  We've had a dearth of results among this group that, for me at least, warrant moving the needle.  Could I try and parse DePauw's 53-34 result vs. Denison and Hope's 49-18 (or whatever it was this week) result against Kalamazoo?  I mean maybe.  For the most part, this group is hammering teams they're supposed to hammer, no warning flags really, and I'm waiting for some higher leverage games, which we're about to start getting this week. 

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

I'm 2/3/4 this week.  Full disclosure- my ballot hasn't changed in three weeks.  We've had a dearth of results among this group that, for me at least, warrant moving the needle.  Could I try and parse DePauw's 53-34 result vs. Denison and Hope's 49-18 (or whatever it was this week) result against Kalamazoo?  I mean maybe.  For the most part, this group is hammering teams they're supposed to hammer, no warning flags really, and I'm waiting for some higher leverage games, which we're about to start getting this week. 

Ditto, same, what he said.

[Li'l Giant]

I'm 2/3/4 this week. 

Same.

For the most part, this group is hammering teams they're supposed to hammer, no warning flags really, and I'm waiting for some higher leverage games, which we're about to start getting this week.

Agree with this as well.

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

According to the current NPI ranking, the Region 4 order is DePauw, Hope, Mount Union, Marietta, Adrian, Alma, John Carroll, Albion, Wabash, Mount St Joseph in the top 10.