NESCAC

[maineman]

So which team's season is over if the lose in the quarter finals?  How does this look?

Amherst-No
Tufts-No
Conn College-possibly
Middlebury-probably
Williams-probably
Bates-Yes
Hamilton-Yes
Wesleyan-Yes

[Timmy Two Wheels]

Great analysis @maineman

And now the moment you've all been waiting for. Here are Timmy Two Wheel's hypothetical sports book NESCAC playoff betting lines.

1) Amherst vs Wesleyan. (AMH -1.5, O/U 2.5)

3 Quick prop bets:
- Amherst Yellow Cards (O/U 1.5)
- One Amherst Coach gets spoken to by the center official (-250)
- Wesleyan's Devanny saves (O/U 5.5)

2) Tufts vs Hamilton (TUF -1.5, O/U 3.5)

4 Quick Prop Bets:
- Tufts players seeing the field (O/U 19.5)
- Hamilton shots on goal (O/U 5.5)
- Rojas yellow cards (O/U 1.25)
- Tufts loses this game and then somehow wins the national championship (+450)

3) Conn vs Midd (Midd -0.5, O/U 1.25)

3 Quick Prop Bets:
- Total Shots on Goal (O/U 6.5)
- Goulart stepovers (O/U 32.5)
- Fans attending that aren't parents or significant others (O/U 4.5)

4) Williams vs Bates (Bates -0.5, O/U 0.5)

2 Quick Prop Bets:
- Someone with the last name Bardong scores or gets an assist (+450)
- Mr. Right attends the game and leaves uninspired by Williams' performance (-5000)

[d4_Pace]

Amherst (-1.5) parlayed with Amherst yellow cards over and Wesleyan saves over
Hamilton (+1.5) parlayed with Tufts national title (+450)
Conn (+0.5) parlayed with shots on goal under 6.5
Bates (-0.5)

Hammer Rojas yellow cards and Mr right disappointment

[Mr.Right]

You got half of right as I am attending my first live game of year..I've been busier than usual but this is the best time of year. I am watching William's women and men today. Will give a full report later but I'm hopeful today I think Williams has been playing well but it is very hard to beat the same team within 2 weeks especially when there is not much difference in talent.

Absolutely love the props....

I am expecting only 1 of the top 4 seeds to go down today.. JUST ONE...not sure which one yet. Williams is the easiest pick to fall but I would not count any of the others...Conn's play of late hgv as not been sharp and they need to refocus..Amherst is really playing well but I will never count out Wesleyan when they play at Amherst

[Middlebury Dad]

Conn goes down in PKs to Midd!  Midd GK Grady had a clean sheet going and came off injured in 2nd half.  Backup Marco Kaper had a great save in OT to send game to kicks.  Marcucci took at PK, but Kaper saved it.  Marcucci got a hand on two shots for Midd, but the power on both was enough to get them over the line.  Tied at 3-3 after 5 kicks.  Liam Sloan went low to Marcucci's right with a bullet that Marcucci read correctly but could not get a hand on.  Last Conn kicker hit his shot right at Kaper.  Midd now 8-2-6, with 2 wins over Conn and ties vs Amherst, Williams, & WPI, and an OT loss to Tufts.  Should be enough to get them a pool C barring chaos elsewhere.

[Bucket]

  Midd now 8-2-6, with 2 wins over Conn and ties vs Amherst, Williams, & WPI, and an OT loss to Tufts.  Should be enough to get them a pool C barring chaos elsewhere.

I'm pretty sure that as far as the record is concerned, the game still counts as a tie, with Midd "advancing on penalty kicks." So for Pool C consideration, Midd's record will be 7-2-7.  Probably still good enough, but one more win would be a big help.

This also means that Conn does not get saddled with a loss, but rather adds a tie to its record, which should be good enough to keep the Camels above the Panthers in the regional rankings absent a Midd victory in the semis.

[Mr.Right]

Live check in....I am really impressed with Williams performance today. They play well on their field and really outclassed Bates. 3-0 Willuams 10 min left. Bates is a gritty team but they  are still a recruiting class or 2 away. They have no one pulling the strings and it hurts them in midfield. Sheikh started 2 Frosh at CB which takes sack. Gass had a brilliant effort for Williams 2nd Goal and Song had a nice one as well. If Williams plays like they did 2nd Half they could give Amherst a test next weekend. Once Gass scored Bates kinda threw in the towel as they got sloppy. Williams 1st goal Bates was caught high on a corner and Fleisher hit a beauty of a ball to Fabricant who buried it off a fluid quick counter. Williams stepped well all day as they were on the front foot from the start

[d4_Pace]

Tufts pretty much in control up 1-0 most of the game. Then Rojas scores 2 in the last minute to win 3-0.

If I'm not mistaken the NESCAC reseeds in the playoffs. This may have been changed recently but if it's still in affect Amherst would play Midd and Tufts vs Williams.

[Middlebury Dad]

  Midd now 8-2-6, with 2 wins over Conn and ties vs Amherst, Williams, & WPI, and an OT loss to Tufts.  Should be enough to get them a pool C barring chaos elsewhere.

I'm pretty sure that as far as the record is concerned, the game still counts as a tie, with Midd "advancing on penalty kicks." So for Pool C consideration, Midd's record will be 7-2-7.  Probably still good enough, but one more win would be a big help.

This also means that Conn does not get saddled with a loss, but rather adds a tie to its record, which should be good enough to keep the Camels above the Panthers in the regional rankings absent a Midd victory in the semis. 

True, but with the Camels facing Midd twice and coming out with a loss and a tie, plus a Midd tie vs Amherst, not sure why the assumption is the Camels are higher than Midd.

[Bucket]

  Midd now 8-2-6, with 2 wins over Conn and ties vs Amherst, Williams, & WPI, and an OT loss to Tufts.  Should be enough to get them a pool C barring chaos elsewhere.

I'm pretty sure that as far as the record is concerned, the game still counts as a tie, with Midd "advancing on penalty kicks." So for Pool C consideration, Midd's record will be 7-2-7.  Probably still good enough, but one more win would be a big help.

This also means that Conn does not get saddled with a loss, but rather adds a tie to its record, which should be good enough to keep the Camels above the Panthers in the regional rankings absent a Midd victory in the semis. 

True, but with the Camels facing Midd twice and coming out with a loss and a tie, plus a Midd tie vs Amherst, not sure why the assumption is the Camels are higher than Midd.

Well, Conn was ahead of Midd in the regional rankings coming into today's game, and I don't see a tie changing the regional rankings pecking order. And that's how Pool C picks are made, according to regional rankings. Once Pool A teams are off the board, the selection committee has a choice of the top team in each region; if you're ranked below a team in your region, you can't be picked ahead of them. That is, you're not at the table until all teams ahead of you are off the board, so to speak.

Anyway, it's academic if Midd beats Amherst in the semis next weekend, as that would certainly move Midd ahead of Conn. But when the rankings come out on Wednesday, I'd expect the Camels to still be a spot above my Panthers. I'm not sure a tie would result in a flip flop, though maybe one could argue a road tie could justify it.

[Buck O.]

Great analysis @maineman

And now the moment you've all been waiting for. Here are Timmy Two Wheel's hypothetical sports book NESCAC playoff betting lines.

1) Amherst vs Wesleyan. (AMH -1.5, O/U 2.5)

3 Quick prop bets:
- Amherst Yellow Cards (O/U 1.5)
- One Amherst Coach gets spoken to by the center official (-250)
- Wesleyan's Devanny saves (O/U 5.5)

2) Tufts vs Hamilton (TUF -1.5, O/U 3.5)

4 Quick Prop Bets:
- Tufts players seeing the field (O/U 19.5)
- Hamilton shots on goal (O/U 5.5)
- Rojas yellow cards (O/U 1.25)
- Tufts loses this game and then somehow wins the national championship (+450)

3) Conn vs Midd (Midd -0.5, O/U 1.25)

3 Quick Prop Bets:
- Total Shots on Goal (O/U 6.5)
- Goulart stepovers (O/U 32.5)
- Fans attending that aren't parents or significant others (O/U 4.5)

4) Williams vs Bates (Bates -0.5, O/U 0.5)

2 Quick Prop Bets:
- Someone with the last name Bardong scores or gets an assist (+450)
- Mr. Right attends the game and leaves uninspired by Williams' performance (-5000)

These props are excellent!  Please keep them coming!  Eventually, I will have posted enough to give karma points.

[d4_Pace]

If Tufts were to win the NESCAC title next weekend at Amherst would that be enough to propel them to the #1 rank in New England (and most likely nationally).

Scenario 1 is Amherst loses to Middlebury and finishes season 14-1-2 while Tufts beats Williams and Middlbury to finish 14-2-2 with a decently higher strength of schedule and more Wins vs ranked due to the extra game.

Scenario 2: Amherst and Tufts both win and Tufts gets revenge against the Mammoths. Amherst finishes 15-1-2 Tufts finishes 14-2-2 and Tufts has a marginally better SOS and a a few more win vs ranked.

Do you all think either, both, or neither of these scenarios see Tufts jumping ahead, or is making the finals enough for Amherst to hold on to their top spot and home field until the final four?

[PaulNewman]

If Tufts were to win the NESCAC title next weekend at Amherst would that be enough to propel them to the #1 rank in New England (and most likely nationally).

Scenario 1 is Amherst loses to Middlebury and finishes season 14-1-2 while Tufts beats Williams and Middlbury to finish 14-2-2 with a decently higher strength of schedule and more Wins vs ranked due to the extra game.

Scenario 2: Amherst and Tufts both win and Tufts gets revenge against the Mammoths. Amherst finishes 15-1-2 Tufts finishes 14-2-2 and Tufts has a marginally better SOS and a a few more win vs ranked.

Do you all think either, both, or neither of these scenarios see Tufts jumping ahead, or is making the finals enough for Amherst to hold on to their top spot and home field until the final four?

I'd say close to a coin flip with all of those as in could go either way.  Your school has proven immune to "home court" by winning on the road at least 3 times in PA/NJ.  The wins over Montclair one year and Rowan another are two of the least talked about in Tufts' run and probably top five most impressive.

[soccerfanatic]

A few observations about Amherst from seeing their game on Saturday vs Wesleyan
1. Giammattei is the best striker I have seen in the NESCAC  in recent memory-wonder why he isn't playing at Duke or Princeton?
2. Flip thrower is a HUGE weapon
3. Keeper is excellent
4. If they meet in the final, I think Tufts has a better all around 11 on the field, but Amherst is deadly on the counter and on set pieces (including any throw in the the offensive half)
5. In Saturday's game Wesleyan was impressive with possession (I would say that it was 50/50) but was crushed on the counter and on the long throw.
6. Giammattei would make Trinity a .500 team in the NESCAC this year and put Bates, Colby, Wesleyan, Hamilton, Bowdoin near the top...he's that good!

[soccerfanatic]

Here's the DA best XI from two years ago....one of these is not like the other. 
U-18/19 Best XI Eastern Conference
GOALKEEPER: Justin Garces (Atlanta United FC) UCLA
DEFENDERS: James Sands (New York City FC) PRO NYCFC, Kwaku Owusu (New York City FC) PRO NYCFC, Prince Loney-Bailey (New England Revolution) JMU, Will Crain (Atlanta United FC) Brown University
MIDFIELDERS: JP Marin (New York Red Bulls)Seton Hall, Allen Seals (Orlando City SC) NC State, Simon Becher (Oakwood SC) St. Louis University
FORWARDS: German Giammattei (Kendall SC) Amherst College, Daniel Steedman (Charlotte Soccer Academy) UVA , Christian Sorto (Baltimore Armour) PRO Loudoun United