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[Bucket]

Not really based on #6

https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/championships/sports/soccer/rules/2023PRXSO_QuestionsInterpsVol4.pdf

I haven't seen this. I don't condone the behavior but I also havent observed a straight red for language once this season and I've heard plenty across the board on all sides......

Believe me, the center ref was well within the established rules for a straight red

Official NCAA ejection report lists the reason as Violent Behavior I  "Player (24) grabbed jersey of defender on Amherst College with two hands and threw player to the ground with force when ball was out of play."

My last comment on this for you Bucket: You seem very comfortable passing off some secondhand garbage that you hear from some unspecified source as if it's first hand knowledge of facts (including some very serious accusations of racism). But you know that you don't really have all the facts. And now CSO has confirmed it. My suggestion to you is that you refrain from publishing personal attacks on the character of players based on what you know is not a complete and accuracy account of the facts.

LOL. You're clueless. "Passing off some secondhand garbage that you hear from some unspecified sources?"

Saturday, I heard it with my own ears—the expletive-laced rant by #24, and the referee's response. My own ears. Not secondhand. I have no reason to doubt my friend CSO as to what was written in the report—no one knows rules or officiating better than him—but I also know what I saw and heard. Perhaps it was a combination of the two. Whatever the official reason—personal verbal abuse, unsportsmanlike violent behavior, or a combination, the red card was well deserved.

As for what I heard last year? Again: my own ears heard the racist and homophobic slur at Midd. And my source for historical precedent/prior behavior is unimpeachable.

You can take your suggestions and disgruntlement elsewhere.

[SoccerFan4Life]

I will not take it elsewhere. I was there and I know what happened.. You are not telling the truth.

[Bucket]

I will not take it elsewhere. I was there and I know what happened.. You are not telling the truth.

Sure I am.

Further: were you close enough to hear what was said? And what continued once he left the game? (And subsequently refused to shake hands?)

Talk about a delusional sour grapes Camel fan.

[SoccerFan4Life]

I was close enough. And he did shake hands with a number on of Amherst players (incl CB agains whom he competed on those plays) at the end of the match. Again more dishonesty Bucket. It's a bad look.

[Bucket]

I was close enough. And he did shake hands with a number on of Amherst players (incl CB agains whom he competed on those plays) at the end of the match. Again more dishonesty Bucket. It's a bad look.

lol

[camosfan]

Just got back to NJ from Middlebury, was a great weekend saw 3 very good games, like the maturing of our Jumbos!

[SoccerFan4Life]

That's it..."lol"? 

Nothing to say about being wrong (dishonest) about the no hand shake accusation at the end? Just "lol"?  Par for the course Bucket. No integrity.

[College Soccer Observer]

I was close enough. And he did shake hands with a number on of Amherst players (incl CB agains whom he competed on those plays) at the end of the match. Again more dishonesty Bucket. It's a bad look.

After getting a red card, he should not have been anywhere near the field to shake anyone's hand.  From the NCAA rule book:

—A player, coach or other bench personnel ejected from the game must leave the venue, be out of sight and sound and is prohibited from any communication or contact, direct or indirect, with the team, coaches and/or bench personnel until the completion of the contest, including the overtime periods.

[SoccerFan4Life]

"...until the end of competition".

[Bucket]

Just got back to NJ from Middlebury, was a great weekend say 3 very good game, like the maturing of our Jumbos!

Agreed. Fun three games. Unlucky result for the Jumbos today—may have been among the best games they played all season—and they are well positioned for a deep tournament run. They can be so clinical while not being thrown off stride by the physicality of Amherst.

Amherst is back to being Amherst—really tough to beat this time of year. Playing today without Cubbedu (who also missed the semifinal) and Clark-Eden makes today's win all the more impressive. Was really impressed with the sophomore CB Street, who filled in admirably for the missing co-captain. NuHu's run and goal against Tufts was jaw-dropping. Yes, there was discussion and disagreement on whether his hit was a truly stunning diagonal semi-deke up and over the keeper or an mis-hit cross, but no matter. It found the net. And what was mesmerizing was his run, beating the first defender and then splitting two more before launching the shot/cross.

As mentioned earlier this year, a team's health can be paramount come November. Amherst has had some knocks (see above) but has played through it, and Midd will have to do the same if the Panthers are to make a deep run this month. Losing Shane Farrell mid-season was a blow, but the Panthers' depth filled in nicely. William O'Brien's absence the past few games has been more acutely felt, I think. Others far smarter than I have astutely noticed that a big difference between the 2022 and 2023 Panthers squads has been O'Brien's play this year. If he's unable to go, Midd will have to find a way to replace a key component of what has made them successful this year. I have no doubt that they can (and will?), though. Sometimes a loss—especially a club's first—as painful as it may be on one's home turf in a championship environment is all that is needed to spark a resurgence.

As to the 4th team this weekend? Conn seemed utterly out of its depth—outplayed, outcoached, and outclassed against Amherst. Though highly regarded by the formula that ranks regional teams, the Camels seem like a paper tiger to me.

[camosfan]

This Jack's second red this season!

[SoccerFan4Life]

Nope.

[camosfan]

Are you sure fan? didn't he miss a regular season game due to suspension? or was that an accumulation of yellows?

[SoccerFan4Life]

Be careful what you write. I'm sure.

[camosfan]

I am asking?