NESCAC

[amh63]

Amherst wins over Midd. 2-1 in OT.  Amherst was down by 1 goal at the half and into the 2nd half.  Did see Heo enter the game in the second half..or late in the first half when Amherst was behind and need to step up its attack against the tough Midd. defense.
Trinity won over Williams, I believe.  Had to switch over to the big Football game on campus between two undefeated teams.

[NEsoccer]

Championship day. Tsatsimpe and norton were back in the semi-final and Heo was available off the bench, which I imagine will be the case again today. With all those guys playing i think amherst is easily the most talented and deepest team in the league. Trinity however is probably playing better than anyone else right now having reeled off five straight wins (including @midd and @ wesleyan) since last losing to Amherst at home in a 1-0 game. I really think this is could be a special Amherst team. The hoops second ever conference title and a deep NCAA run would validate that. I see both happening.

I do think trinity should be into the tournament with a win or a loss. I can't imagine middlebury getting in, as they would be the fifth NESCAC team. (Im assuming if they get in williams a would have as well. I think Williams is the real bubble team). Have five from the conference gotten in before? With so few pool c bid, I can't imagine four going to one conference.

[newefan]

If Babson & Amherst both lose today then I think we might only see 3 NESCAC teams, Amherst, Wesleyan and Trinity.  Babson takes a spot over Williams.  If Babson wins then maybe Williams gets in. 

[amh63]

Amherst wins over Trinity 2-0 at home for the conference championship.  It was Amherst 1-0 at the half and Amherst played with a 2-0 lead well into the 2nd half.  It got rough near the end and passions ran high with a number of cards given.

[NESoccr]

tourney committee totally underrated nescac.  amherst shld've been seeded on schedule strength and record v. ranked teams and same record as trinity (and won league and tourney).  nescac performance in past 4 yrs. shld count for something (middlebury national champs, and then amherst, williams, and bowdoin to semis after knocking off other nescacs).  watch trinity, ct or wesleyan go to semis from weakest bracket.

[NHsocca1]

Williams should be in.

Amherst got hosed. 

Who is on the decision making committee? I bet not the Amherst or Williams coaches...

[Off Pitch]

Amherst is in the easiest region, hardly a hosing.

Williams is most definitely one of the top 61 teams in the country, but they are only the fourth best team in their conference. 

[NHsocca1]

Hahaha...ok.  Easiest region. 

[Off Pitch]

Please see the analysis in the Playoff thread.  Using the average rankings of the top four teams in each region, the Messiah/Amherst region comes out as the weakest. 

By the way, if healthy, I like Amherst to upset Messiah.

[LaPaz]

The history for one tournament to the next means nothing. You might think there would be some link but there is not.
Amherst- Got a good first 4 teams and will make it out however their travels to Messiah should be an interesting challenge. they did not get "hosed" at all.
Trinity- Got lucky. If anything Wesleyan should be where Trinity is at Babson and Trinity should be heading to NJ, but looks like these conference tournaments played more of a factor than we once thought.
Wes-They didint end their season strong and did lose to Trinity at home but still I think this is a bit of a "miss". BTW there coach is the NESCAC region rep.
Williams- While def one of top 61 and had best strenght tof Schedule in country there 1-4-3 record aganist ranked teams doomed them. That unlucky loss to Amherst in last 10 minutes and the loss to Wes with 2 min remaining really hurt them. However, the loss to Trinity in Nescac semi's doomed their chances.
Midd- While playing the best of anyone late season and with the best and biggest senior class gone, this has to be a huge disappointment.  Their record aganist ranked teams also did them in plus 8 wins with 4 aganist bad opponents. They had no shot unless they beat Amherst in Nescac semis's, which from what I saw was a real dirty game.

[LaPaz]

http://www.nescac.com/sports/msoc/2011-12/honors/allconference

2011 NESCAC Men's Soccer All-Conference
  First Team Institution Yr. Hometown
F Tyler Macnee Middlebury Sr. Williston, Vt.
F Dan Mayernick Trinity Sr. Gladwyne, Pa.
F Spencer Noon Amherst Jr. Farmington, Conn.
F Gus Santos Tufts Fr. Framingham, Mass.
M Rory O'Neill Wesleyan Jr. Silver Spring, Md.
M Robbie Redmond Middlebury Sr. Morristown, N.J.
M Thebe Tsatsimpe Amherst Sr. Johannesburg, South Africa

D Sean Bishop Bowdoin Sr. Danvers, Mass.
D Joe Buckley Trinity Sr. Shrewsbury, Mass.
D Chris Lerner Amherst Jr. Canton, Mass.
D Matt Ratajczak Williams Jr. Brooklyn, N.Y.
GK Adam Purdy Wesleyan Jr. Montclair, N.J.
         
  Second Team Institution Yr. Hometown
F Oscar Brown Connecticut College     
Sr. Ridgefield, Conn.
F Jae Heo Amherst So. Changwon, South Korea
F John Murphy Bates Jr. Yarmouth, Maine
F Alejandro Sucre Amherst Sr. Caracas, Venezuela
M Anthony El-Hachem   
Trinity Jr. Vernon, Conn.
M Andrew Meisel Colby Jr. Newtown, Conn.
M Otis Pitney Middlebury Sr. Washington, D.C.
D Ben Brewster Bowdoin So. Cape Elizabeth, Maine
D Jack Freeman Middlebury Jr. Ridgewood, N.J.
D Isaac Hancock Connecticut College Sr. Gettysburg, Pa.
D Phil Vestergaard Williams Sr. St. Petersburg, Fla.
GK Grant Schonberg Trinity Sr. Mendham, N.J.
         
  Player of the Year       
F Spencer Noon
Amherst Jr. Farmington, Conn.

         
  Rookie of the Year       
F Gus Santos
Tufts Fr. Framingham, Mass.

         
  Coach of the Year       
  Mike Pilger
Trinity

[LaPaz]

No idea what some of these coaches are watching..

First team:  Lerner, Macnee and Ratajczak not deserving. Macnee and Ratajczak had off years and no idea how in the world Lerner even made it on this list. I figure him to be one of Amherst weak links back there. Redmond is an iffy choice. I would have gotten those out and put in Meisel, Pitney and Vestegaard.

2nd team looks ok. Isacc Hancock a strecth as is Seton Hall transfer for MIdd.

I love the first team selection of Santos as FROSH.  good to see and C.O.Y Pilger a nice pick as well. Noon well deserving of P.O.Y

[NESoccr]

how could amherst coach (i forget his name) not be COY. they won regular season and tourney. pilger not more desrving than what Ken Murphy's done at my alma mater. 

[NHsocca1]

sAw all three games this past weekend.

macnee more than deserving,

lerner led team in assists and was Amherst best player in NESCAC final weekend.

I'd have made Wheeler COY for tying for reg season championship with same guys as last year. 

Other obersvations:

NO hamilton player on either team.  The only team not represented.

As many Conn College players as Williams players.  Sure that hasn't happened before. 

[NESoccr]

lap - seems like you know NESCAC better than anyone.  you say lerner's a weak link in amherst defense. i watched them play twice this year, once at trinity and on webcast. he looked pretty good to me. i don't know other guys, but what other amherst defender would you have on all-conference? seems some amherst defense guy or keeper should be on one of teams.

and for you and socca, i still think amherst coach should've been COY. it's been a pretty long time since a team won both the regular season and tourney, hasn't it? i like wheeler and don't know much about the amherst coach, but the team had a great year. my camels spoiled a perfect season.