NESCAC

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Mr.Right

Quote from: Off Pitch on October 23, 2014, 08:17:38 AM
Quote from: Mr.Right on October 22, 2014, 11:33:35 PM
who cares....that makes no difference as MIT is not ranked. Your case for Nicholls not being ranked is proving my point for Gordon not being ranked.

You say it makes no difference, yet Coast Guard IS ranked ahead of Tufts and Gordon IS ranked and Nichols is not.  So, clearly it does make a difference.

Winning % matters. SOS matters.  Result vs common opponents matters.  These are all criteria that are supposed to be considered.

Gordon is ranked instead of Nichols because they have a better win % and SOS.  The fact that they are ranked proves absolutely nothing about Nichols except that Nichols should be ranked below Gordon, and they are.

Arguing SOS for Gordon is laughable. My post was a jab at Gordon more than praise for Nichols. Both schools deserve to not be ranked and if the Weasel is correct than record vs ranked opponents will surely drop Gordon all together. Your constant attack on Nescac schools is getting old and as I have suggested in the past your should start a new thread for the minnows of New England.

Off Pitch

I guess it is hard to dispute facts.  I am sorry that you consider the presentation of facts to be an "attack".  So much for your desire for an unbiased thread.

Off Pitch

I also realize you are avoiding like the plague any actual discussion of the fact that Tufts, Williams, Wesleyan and Middlebury have such a substandard record this year agains the "minnows".   I know, discussing actual results is an attack.  Sorry.

Mr.Right

You are ignoring the fact the minnows play such a weak schedule themselves that they boost there own winning %. One game is not the end all be all. You compare Gordon and Nicholls yet Nicholls beat Gordon. That is your whole argument on this thread for Nescac being down is the head to head stuff, yet you ignore your own facts

Mr.Right

You also conveniently ignored my post before


Just curious if you had to choose a winner in these "pretend" match ups who you would choose. Ill give you the home field

Coast Guard v Williams

Babson v Amherst

WPI v Tufts

Gordon v Midd

Nichols v Bowdoin


Off Pitch

My argument about NESCAC being down is based on Tufts, Williams, Wesleyan and Middlebury (the NCAA hopefuls and the better teams in the conference) winning only 50% of their games against non-NESCAC competition.   That is parity this season, not superiority like almost every season before.

Mr.Right

Tufts-  3-1-1
Williams  2-2-1   
Midd- 4-1-0
Wes   2-1-2 

Your math does not add up my friend

Off Pitch

Yes, I understand you would rather pretend than talk about acutal game results.  You will go to any length to avoid discussing the substandard out of conference results of the NESCAC tournament hopefuls.

Mr.Right

Not to mention:

Amherst - 5-0-0
Colby-  4-0-1
Trinty- 5-0-0
Hamiltom 4-1-0


Mr.Right

Your argument is weak at best

Off Pitch

Quote from: Mr.Right on October 23, 2014, 10:29:00 AM
Tufts-  3-1-1
Williams  2-2-1   
Midd- 4-1-0
Wes   2-1-2 

Your math does not add up my friend


You are correct.  I did not include Tuft's impressive win over Plymouth St this week.  With that win the NESCAC power teams have won 55% of their games against the minnows.  If you take wins out against the weak teams with losing records, these teams collectively have won only 40% (6 of 15) of the games agains decent competition.

Off Pitch

Quote from: Mr.Right on October 23, 2014, 10:30:44 AM
Your argument is weak at best

I guess so since Gordon, with their weak non-NESCAC schedule, has only won 80% of their games agains the type of competition that Tufts, Wesleyan, Williams and Middlebury have beaten 55% of the time.

Mr.Right

Oh I see how you operate pick and choose the wins and losses you want.

Mr.Right

Please post Gordons results and Tufts results next to each other. There is not one sane person(that doesnt include yourself) that would pick Gordon over Tufts...You are really bad at losing arguments

Mr.Right

Williams had played Skidmore, RPI, Babson......Gordon has played Husson, Eastern Nazerene, etc etc...Please keep posting and show how limited your knowledge is