NESCAC

[SoccerFollower]

The NESCAC weekly release says that Tufts have clinched first place... Does anyone care to explain? If they lose and Amherst win they'll be equal on points. I was under the impression that the tie breakers were "Head to Head" then "Results against top 4" and "Results against top 8". If the top four are williams midd tufts and amherst, then wouldn't they be exactly tied for all of those criteria?

[Mr.Right]

Because of the 6th tiebreaker down...

Comparison of results of conference games played against conference teams in rank order.  Wesleyan will finish no lower than 5th. Bowdoin 6th. Therefore Tufts wins that battle. It does beat 2012 when Amherst and Williams tied every category for 1st place all the way down to a coin flip.

[Mr.Right]

Hey I wish Amherst would win that tiebreaker if I were any other team in the conference. Tufts field compares to a high school field or Wesleyan's field.

[SoccerFollower]

Ah, thanks! I hadn't understood that it went in descending order like that.

[Nutmeg]

Hey I wish Amherst would win that tiebreaker if I were any other team in the conference. Tufts field compares to a high school field or Wesleyan's field.

I hear you Mr. Right, but it's good to see someone other than Amherst win once in awhile...lol...imho Tufts really deserved to win the conference this year...Oh, A.S. Roma used the Tufts field this summer as its practice field for its game at Fenway against Liverpool....

[FourMoreYears]

Tie Breaking Procedures
Ties will be broken as follows:

Head-to-head result (if teams play each other more than once during the regular season, the game that appears on the league schedule will be the game that is counted).

If teams tied during the regular season, or there is a 3-way or more tie, the following tie breaking procedure will be used:

Best record among tying teams, against one another (head-to-head).
Best conference winning percentage.
Most conference wins (in games that are part of the conference schedule and count toward league standings).
Comparison of results of conference games played against top 4 teams (including all teams at the 4th spot).
Comparison of results of conference games played against top 8 teams (including all teams at the 8th spot).
Comparison of results of conference games played against conference teams in rank order.
Comparisons shall be made one team at a time starting with the highest ranked team.
If the tie remains after comparing results against the highest ranked team, the results against the next team in rank order shall be used. This process is continued until a winner is determined.
Coin flip (or similar random action involving all tied teams).
Note: In case of ties among three or more schools, the criteria above will be applied in order until a team is (or teams are) separated. At that point, the process begins anew (returning to the first criteria) with the remaining teams. The process is continued until the tie is eventually broken. In cases where only a random action will break the tie of three or more teams, the random action will be applied to all teams involved in the tie. For example, if three teams are tied and only a random action (pulling names out of a hat) will break the tie, each name will be pulled and seeded in order of being pulled. Also, in the event that there are two (or more) groups of teams tied at different spots in the standings and the only criteria left that can be used to break those ties is a coin flip/random action, the coin flip/random action used to break the tie of one group (to put teams in rank order) will not affect the tie breaking procedures of the other group(s) of tied teams.

[oldonionbag]

Hey I wish Amherst would win that tiebreaker if I were any other team in the conference. Tufts field compares to a high school field or Wesleyan's field.

I hear you Mr. Right, but it's good to see someone other than Amherst win once in awhile...lol...imho Tufts really deserved to win the conference this year...Oh, A.S. Roma used the Tufts field this summer as its practice field for its game at Fenway against Liverpool....

I was thinking the same thing Nutmeg. If it's good enough for one of the most storied clubs in European football to train on, I'd assume it's OK for a conference tournament game to be played on. However, it is hard to decide which is more impressive- winning the NESCAC or winning Serie A. 

[oldonionbag]

Tie Breaking Procedures
Ties will be broken as follows:

Head-to-head result (if teams play each other more than once during the regular season, the game that appears on the league schedule will be the game that is counted).

If teams tied during the regular season, or there is a 3-way or more tie, the following tie breaking procedure will be used:

Best record among tying teams, against one another (head-to-head).
Best conference winning percentage.
Most conference wins (in games that are part of the conference schedule and count toward league standings).
Comparison of results of conference games played against top 4 teams (including all teams at the 4th spot).
Comparison of results of conference games played against top 8 teams (including all teams at the 8th spot).
Comparison of results of conference games played against conference teams in rank order.
Comparisons shall be made one team at a time starting with the highest ranked team.
If the tie remains after comparing results against the highest ranked team, the results against the next team in rank order shall be used. This process is continued until a winner is determined.
Coin flip (or similar random action involving all tied teams).
Note: In case of ties among three or more schools, the criteria above will be applied in order until a team is (or teams are) separated. At that point, the process begins anew (returning to the first criteria) with the remaining teams. The process is continued until the tie is eventually broken. In cases where only a random action will break the tie of three or more teams, the random action will be applied to all teams involved in the tie. For example, if three teams are tied and only a random action (pulling names out of a hat) will break the tie, each name will be pulled and seeded in order of being pulled. Also, in the event that there are two (or more) groups of teams tied at different spots in the standings and the only criteria left that can be used to break those ties is a coin flip/random action, the coin flip/random action used to break the tie of one group (to put teams in rank order) will not affect the tie breaking procedures of the other group(s) of tied teams.

Thank you for this- I always wondered how tiebreakers were decided!

[Mr.Right]

That really surprises me that AS Roma would train on that sh*t field. I know they are owned by a Boston guy and maybe he went to Tufts or lives near Somerville, who knows but the quality of that field is really poor. Like others there dimensions are narrow but the biggest problem is the bumpiness and uneven playing surface.

[Mr.Right]

On the other hand maybe AS Roma wanted to get used to the extremely narrow Fenway field.

[oldonionbag]

field looks nice! maybe they've installed new sod?http://www.gotuftsjumbos.com/general_news/2014-15/roma

[Brother Flounder]

Hey Mr. Right or others...Someone mentioned that Tufts was the number one seed even if they lose tomorrow.  How does the NESCAC work...is the playoff champion the conference winner, or is the regular season winner the conference winner and the playoff tournament winner the tournament winner...in other words, are there 2 winners???

[oldonionbag]

@Brother Flounder

Tie Breaking Procedures
Ties will be broken as follows:

Head-to-head result (if teams play each other more than once during the regular season, the game that appears on the league schedule will be the game that is counted).

If teams tied during the regular season, or there is a 3-way or more tie, the following tie breaking procedure will be used:

Best record among tying teams, against one another (head-to-head).
Best conference winning percentage.
Most conference wins (in games that are part of the conference schedule and count toward league standings).
Comparison of results of conference games played against top 4 teams (including all teams at the 4th spot).
Comparison of results of conference games played against top 8 teams (including all teams at the 8th spot).
Comparison of results of conference games played against conference teams in rank order.
Comparisons shall be made one team at a time starting with the highest ranked team.
If the tie remains after comparing results against the highest ranked team, the results against the next team in rank order shall be used. This process is continued until a winner is determined.
Coin flip (or similar random action involving all tied teams).
Note: In case of ties among three or more schools, the criteria above will be applied in order until a team is (or teams are) separated. At that point, the process begins anew (returning to the first criteria) with the remaining teams. The process is continued until the tie is eventually broken. In cases where only a random action will break the tie of three or more teams, the random action will be applied to all teams involved in the tie. For example, if three teams are tied and only a random action (pulling names out of a hat) will break the tie, each name will be pulled and seeded in order of being pulled. Also, in the event that there are two (or more) groups of teams tied at different spots in the standings and the only criteria left that can be used to break those ties is a coin flip/random action, the coin flip/random action used to break the tie of one group (to put teams in rank order) will not affect the tie breaking procedures of the other group(s) of tied teams.

Thank you for this- I always wondered how tiebreakers were decided!

[Brother Flounder]

Thanks OnionBag.  I saw that post but I wan asking about the final results.  Is there a conference winner and a conference champion, or just the conference champion?  Thanks.

[NewEngland]

Thanks OnionBag.  I saw that post but I wan asking about the final results.  Is there a conference winner and a conference champion, or just the conference champion?  Thanks.

Only one winner, the tournament champion. No regular season champion.

"Football is the only sport that honors a NESCAC champion based on the final regular season conference standings. In all other sports that have conference standings, a regular season champion is not recognized."